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by j4241
Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:49 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Recruiting experience after rule change
Replies: 4
Views: 514

Re: Recruiting experience after rule change

Having college commitments available in one spot is very valuable information for families that are going through the recruiting process. If you could add and assemble that, and make it searchable and sortable (by college, year, perhaps position) would be very cool.
by j4241
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Recruiting experience after rule change
Replies: 4
Views: 514

Recruiting experience after rule change

Current announced division 1 college verbal commitments from Minnesota high schools by class (I think, on all of these. Taken from collegecommitments.com, which I know is pretty good, but no doubt misses some, and has some errors. I added two that I'm aware of that are not on this list, one each fro...
by j4241
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:21 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: High school programs #s in Elite league
Replies: 17
Views: 954

Re: High school programs #s in Elite league

I did not mean this to turn in to a bash-Breck or defend-Breck thread. But... “Or even superior”...? Of course they are - by massive, US military vs Grenada levels. Breck’s KRACH rating last year ended at 488.14. The lowest rated AA school was Rochester Mayo, with a KRACH rating of 0.295. Breck has ...
by j4241
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:54 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Elite league
Replies: 49
Views: 3817

Re: Elite league

We are talking past eachother a bit, which is my fault. My original point was that USA hockey's point of view should not exclusively dominate in identifying the best players because it's biased. You shifted the conversation to express concern about another point of view dominating, with its own bias...
by j4241
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:24 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Elite league
Replies: 49
Views: 3817

Re: Elite league

No - unless that one person is selecting both. I think a thoughtful process is better than an individual, and USA hockey certainly has put together a thoughtful process (albeit one with biases). But one thoughtful process and one independent selection by a knowledgeable individual (even if marred by...
by j4241
Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:54 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Elite league
Replies: 49
Views: 3817

Re: Elite league

One point I will make - if Winny uses USA hockey attainment in placing kids in the elite league - I think that's a mistake. She should make her own judgments. Otherwise an opportunity for independent judgment and evaluation just becomes a circular exercise in self-reinforcement and confirmation bias...
by j4241
Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:48 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Elite league
Replies: 49
Views: 3817

Re: Elite league

All good. I've seen almost all those kids play, too, so had my own biases about which team was better. I pride myself on being a good Bayesian, though, so was updating my priors on your feedback about the game - which I appreciated! I look forward to watching them play one of these weekends.
by j4241
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:37 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Elite league
Replies: 49
Views: 3817

Re: Elite league

The Grey should beat SSM U16 more often than not despite SSM having systems and PP/PK. Saw the reference to McKenzie Rich going to SSM so was curious to look at the rosters. She is playing Prep. After looking at the SSM U16 roster, if Grey loses to them it would be a massive upset. I expect more th...
by j4241
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:05 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: High school programs #s in Elite league
Replies: 17
Views: 954

Re: High school programs #s in Elite league

...The HSL loses over $100 of revenue just from my daughter and me because of this lack of planning. The funny thing is, I don't think they care about money. They are like this obscure religious sect squirrelled away in their compound, every two years sending the annointed one into the holy vault t...
by j4241
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:58 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: High school programs #s in Elite league
Replies: 17
Views: 954

Re: High school programs #s in Elite league

Not sure why Wayzata and Tonka don't have more, are they leaving for private schools? Undoubtedly. Blake and Breck have a total of at least a handful of kids that would play starring roles for Tonka. And don't even think about what Edina would look like if all the Blake, Breck and Benilde kids went...
by j4241
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:46 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Elite league
Replies: 49
Views: 3817

Re: Elite league

I agree. Stats are kept in high school. Stats are kept in HP tier 1. Stats are kept in Spring HP. Stats are kept in showcase tournaments like NAHA. And stats are kept in the Boys Elite league! The only argument that carries any weight at all for me is the fact that girls elite league includes teams ...
by j4241
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:35 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: High school programs #s in Elite league
Replies: 17
Views: 954

Re: High school programs #s in Elite league

I meant this thread to be about something else - and threw in a gentle poke at some adults - I didn’t mean for that to be the focal point. BUT Regarding the responses - interesting to hear your perspectives. Though I feel like trophy-chasing is a phrase used to pejoratively describe the ethics aroun...
by j4241
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:37 pm
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: High school programs #s in Elite league
Replies: 17
Views: 954

High school programs #s in Elite league

Since we're yakking about the elite league, let's bring it back to high school... What teams have strong representation across the full league? Out of a league total of roughly 160 kids (including the freshman on Gemini), I count (totally eyeballing - these may be off by 1 or 2): Edina - 13 (9 on 19...
by j4241
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:06 pm
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Elite league
Replies: 49
Views: 3817

Re: Elite league

Well said. I don't mean to beat up on it - I agree it is a good thing for kids to have these opportunities! My point was just that identifying someone as achieving some level of the USA hockey process is not proving to be all that great a demarcator of their ability. But it's fun to watch, it's fun ...
by j4241
Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:36 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Elite league
Replies: 49
Views: 3817

Re: Elite league

That’s an incredible collection of talent! I also fully take your point that the teams are well matched, and look forward to watching them play each other at some point. The only thing I would add is I’m increasingly skeptical of using USA hockey accolades as a barometer of talent. Just as a for exa...
by j4241
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Elite league
Replies: 49
Views: 3817

Re: Elite league

That 2-0 37 save shutout must have been a goaltending gem...
by j4241
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:54 pm
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Elite league
Replies: 49
Views: 3817

Re: Elite league

Sounds like the hot take is 19 White is every bit the team 19 Black is - impressive! I would not have guessed that looking at the rosters, but that's why they play the games! Will be fun to watch some of those tilts, and vs SSM.
by j4241
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Elite league
Replies: 49
Views: 3817

Re: Elite league

Apparently they heard our request for stats - and went hard in the other direction. There are no score updates from this weekend (and there were a lot of games). Anyone know outcomes? I think: 19 Red vs 16 Grey - 4-4 16 Black vs 16 White - 5-1 16 Black vs Gemini - 4-2 16 White vs 16 Wisconsin - 8-3 ...
by j4241
Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:05 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Tis the Transfer season...
Replies: 198
Views: 63784

Re: Tis the Transfer season...

I understand Edina has two move ins? One from Selects Academy and one apparently from Arizona who someone claimed will be their best forward this year? Anyone have details?
by j4241
Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:09 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Elite league
Replies: 49
Views: 3817

Re: Elite league

First two games last night - any reactions?
by j4241
Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:22 pm
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: NAHA
Replies: 16
Views: 1389

Re: NAHA

You seem intent on hijacking a thread about Minnesota kids succeeding at NAHA, and have dialed in either on '05s being unfairly exclued from NAHA, or on the EC Wizards being treated unfairly by having to play '04s. Do you have a connection with that team? If you do - they are really good! They beat ...
by j4241
Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: NAHA
Replies: 16
Views: 1389

Re: NAHA

There's no question an asterisk is probably warranted at the 14 level (top 6 scorers on Black team that won are '04s, goalie is an '04). But the original post was about Minnesota overall. Had the 14s not been there, point would have stood. Regarding the 14s, my understanding is Winny has a strong gr...
by j4241
Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:01 am
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: NAHA
Replies: 16
Views: 1389

NAHA

Pretty spectacular performance by Minnesota teams this weekend at the NAHA Labor Day tournament. My understanding is OS teams have won twice - ever, at any level - in the history of this event prior to this weekend. OS teams won at the U19, U16 and U14 levels for a clean sweep!
by j4241
Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Older Topics)
Topic: Biggest rivalries
Replies: 63
Views: 14075

Re: Biggest rivalries

Been reflecting on that for 13 years?
by j4241
Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey
Topic: Elite league
Replies: 49
Views: 3817

Re: Elite league

Flow has games cross listed on the OS Fall league, and appears to be the Ice Cougars U19 team (from their website). The rest of what you said appears spot on to me.