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by 7TIMECHAMPS
Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:49 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: People wanting to stay A... about single A teams recruiting
Replies: 48
Views: 3539

Re: People wanting to stay A... about single A teams recruiting

Not picking any sides just thought I would note that the Pagestat SOS rankings don’t have any A in teams in the top 40. Hermantown is first at 41 (followed closely by a few other A teams). My personal take from that would be that maybe it is a problem, but less prevalent than what is implied here. ...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:53 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: People wanting to stay A... about single A teams recruiting
Replies: 48
Views: 3539

Re: People wanting to stay A... about single A teams recruiting

Not picking any sides just thought I would note that the Pagestat SOS rankings don’t have any A in teams in the top 40. Hermantown is first at 41 (followed closely by a few other A teams). My personal take from that would be that maybe it is a problem, but less prevalent than what is implied here. B...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:04 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: Section 8AA section projections
Replies: 21
Views: 2084

Re: Section 8AA section projections

Roseau is 5-4-1 in the section. The next best in section record is 3-4 and the other two teams under consideration played noticeably easier in section schedules. The teams in the mess all have fairly similar overall records, Rogers a notch below, but Roseau has noticeably better quality wins than t...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:26 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: Section 8AA section projections
Replies: 21
Views: 2084

Re: Section 8AA section projections

I don’t understand how Roseau can get the 3 seed. If you did a blind resume look at the three teams and didn’t know that you were looking at “Roseau”, then I don’t see how you can give them the third seed. The argument for the third seed is between Rogers, STC, and Roseau. They have all beaten each...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:06 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: Games Saturday 1-24-20
Replies: 28
Views: 2138

Re: Games Saturday 1-24-20

4-2 St. Cloud final. Time for a coaching change in Roseau. Team consistently falls apart with about a month to go in the season. He cannot make personnel decisions to save his life. Runs 6 D evenly even though he clearly shouldn’t be. Has a third liner that has taken a penalty in each of the last tw...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:11 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: Games Friday 1-24-20
Replies: 10
Views: 782

Re: Games Friday 1-24-20

WestMetro wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:58 pm
Knights lead 3-1 1 min left
4-1 Empty net final. Tough one for the Rams. Lose the 2 seed in a game they outshot STMA 49-23.
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:48 am
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: A teams playing AA at youth levels
Replies: 78
Views: 4306

Re: A teams playing AA at youth levels

Doesn't matter that Warroad might be good for a few years here, my point is that even a program as good as they are can have long droughts of success when they don't have a metro area to draw from. It's a fact. Misleading stats? Only 11 of those 33 big city A title game participants are now in AA. ...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:06 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: A teams playing AA at youth levels
Replies: 78
Views: 4306

Re: A teams playing AA at youth levels

Thank you again for providing me with a perfect example of my point. Even a place like Warroad, which has as good of a hockey culture and community support as you'll find anywhere, has just gone through a decade of relative mediocrity. They are proof that having an excellent program isn't enough fo...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:00 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: A teams playing AA at youth levels
Replies: 78
Views: 4306

Re: A teams playing AA at youth levels

Well, judging by your posts, you must have read this thread 15-20 times. :lol: You Roseau guys might like to talk tough about not caring about fairness and liking the current system, but the writing is on the wall, your Rams are gonna have to move down to Class A to ever have any type of success ag...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:06 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: A teams playing AA at youth levels
Replies: 78
Views: 4306

Re: A teams playing AA at youth levels

Ever heard of Warroad? Or are they too close to the metro area Baudette? Yeah you poor thing. Some kid out there should feel your wrath for all the pain and suffering you have taken over the years! Not sure what you are trying to get at with your last point. My thought is by and large the system wo...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:02 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: A teams playing AA at youth levels
Replies: 78
Views: 4306

Re: A teams playing AA at youth levels

I am going to put this as nicely as possible. Anybody that has read all the posts on this thread is a little dumber today than they were before they read it! Well, judging by your posts, you must have read this thread 15-20 times. :lol: You Roseau guys might like to talk tough about not caring abou...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:49 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: Games Tuesday 1/21/2020
Replies: 29
Views: 2131

Re: Games Tuesday 1/21/2020

Didn’t see the original game but went and glanced at the stream. The first Spud goal was scored on a centering pass from behind the net to a Moorhead player standing all alone 15 feet out between the circles. What was lucky about that? I would rather say none of the goals were “lucky” as I didn’t t...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:40 am
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: Games Tuesday 1/21/2020
Replies: 29
Views: 2131

Re: Games Tuesday 1/21/2020

Anyone have any observations on the game in Roseau last night? How about Blake vs Benilde? I would have said the game was closer than the score indicated. 2-2 after two and play was pretty even through that point. Even in the third Moorhead didn't dominate play by any means. They did have the bette...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:11 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: Games Tuesday 1/21/2020
Replies: 29
Views: 2131

Re: Games Tuesday 1/21/2020

Anyone have any observations on the game in Roseau last night? How about Blake vs Benilde? I would have said the game was closer than the score indicated. 2-2 after two and play was pretty even through that point. Even in the third Moorhead didn't dominate play by any means. They did have the bette...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:46 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: A teams playing AA at youth levels
Replies: 78
Views: 4306

Re: A teams playing AA at youth levels

To be fair, if EGF was in AA it is very likely their schedule would include more AA teams and less of the likes of Orono and Delano. The can’t control their conference schedule of course but in all likelihood they would have played a tougher non conference schedule, thereby improving their overall ...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:39 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: A teams playing AA at youth levels
Replies: 78
Views: 4306

Re: A teams playing AA at youth levels

My point was that, in general, AA teams are rated higher than A teams. If they dropped Orono and Delano and picked up STMA and St. Cloud they would have a tougher schedule and thus a higher ranking. That is assuming they got the same results against the higher rated teams you mention. Generally, if...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:23 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: A teams playing AA at youth levels
Replies: 78
Views: 4306

Re: A teams playing AA at youth levels

To be fair, if EGF was in AA it is very likely their schedule would include more AA teams and less of the likes of Orono and Delano. The can’t control their conference schedule of course but in all likelihood they would have played a tougher non conference schedule, thereby improving their overall ...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:00 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: A teams playing AA at youth levels
Replies: 78
Views: 4306

Re: A teams playing AA at youth levels

Also for those wondering their average seed would be a 4.3 over the last 10 years. I didn't know if anyone would be wondering if the first decade included skewed the number, it did but only slightly. Between 4-5 is about right.
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:54 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: A teams playing AA at youth levels
Replies: 78
Views: 4306

Re: A teams playing AA at youth levels

I went through and seeded EGF the last 20 years based on Pagestat (which is perfect for situations like this). I used current teams in 8AA (which I know isn't perfect due to section realignments, but is pretty good). EGF's average seed ended up at a 4.6, which means about half the time they would ge...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:32 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: A teams playing AA at youth levels
Replies: 78
Views: 4306

Re: A teams playing AA at youth levels

Also I am glad that you were finally able to admit that your idea is not a fair and equitable system but merely one that gives your home town team an advantage (or does them “favors”). Of course meaning it is not a legitimate option. We are headed in the right direction!
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:03 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: A teams playing AA at youth levels
Replies: 78
Views: 4306

Re: A teams playing AA at youth levels

Ever heard of Warroad? Or are they too close to the metro area Baudette? Yeah you poor thing. Some kid out there should feel your wrath for all the pain and suffering you have taken over the years! Not sure what you are trying to get at with your last point. My thought is by and large the system wor...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:57 am
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: A teams playing AA at youth levels
Replies: 78
Views: 4306

Re: A teams playing AA at youth levels

Equitable in who’s eyes? Do the above listed teams think your idea is equitable? Many of those schools are a small fraction of the big AA schools you are telling them they now have to compete with. You go tell EGF (who is apparently a “city” school) that they are basically the equivalent of EP and ...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:54 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: A teams playing AA at youth levels
Replies: 78
Views: 4306

Re: A teams playing AA at youth levels

My gosh I am going to have to quit posting here for fear of having too strong of an urge to beat my head on a wall. You are right nobody does and you are right they do not have the same resources. You should be very well equipped to answer this question then. Why is there so much whining in class A...
by 7TIMECHAMPS
Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:39 pm
Forum: Minnesota High School Hockey (Latest Topics)
Topic: A teams playing AA at youth levels
Replies: 78
Views: 4306

Re: A teams playing AA at youth levels

Not all AA teams have the same resources, yet they were all put in AA. How many discrimination lawsuits have you seen over it? Has Robbinsdale Armstrong or Coon Rapids filed suit because they don't have the resources of Wayzata or EP? When they first made the AA/A split, how thrilled were the teams...