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Would also be interested to know what method of verification could be provided for grade of school? Birth Certificates seem like a handy way to verify players are in the proper level. (Except for Chinese gymnastics)

Interesting how June 1st isn't included in the poll?

justbecause: I will engage you to explain your statement made earlier, "The other 70% that started on time could also play with their grade." If the cutoff is changed to June first, the 70% that started school ontime just got pushed into playing a grade below their age. The point I have made is that...

If it is truly a learning clinic, they could adopt the education world lingo and call them "enrichment opportunities" and "cumulative assessments". All is good until little Jonny is skipping association practices to drive to the Made. Coach will be mad. Little Jonny will be sitting on the bench for ...

Mac15: I was not putting down "C" players, I thought you were when you said "C" players are playing high school hockey and it almost seems as if you eliminate the "C" level, then no "C" players will be playing in HS? I would stand corrected that no "C" players would be playing "A", only "B". Though ...

HockeyMom87: All I can say is Wow! To tie this rule to abusive husbands, Title IX and the biggest pile of garbage I have read for a long time is remarkable. This D6 rule was written by people (men or women) with clear vision of the big picture in youth sports. Yes, the rule protects the local associ...

We use grade for football and baseball. My son played against a boy two grades behind due to severe learning disability. Was very interesting watching the boy drive to the field as an 8th grader. Physically ready to play HS football. Yet competing against 13 year olds. Yep, MN Hockey should consider...

welders: I think I am finally figuring out your point. You want MN Hockey to eliminate using birthdates at all. Only use grade in school regardless of age. Forget birth certificates all together. I get it. I don't think USA Hockey will go along with it though? The part I don't get with the move from...

Mac15: And there will now be "C" players playing on "A" teams?

Mac15: Don't mean they will have 1 A team and 2 B teams playing in a D9 "A" league?

I agree with Marty the Easton being so rigid would seem to place more energy on the skull. A Dr. friend of mine put it very simply. A concussion is the rapid change of directions on the brain resulting in it banging on the skull. Thus it is a bruise of the brain. The helmet is of less concern than e...

I am not questioning the value of the program, just asking on the cost. I heard $25,000. Yes, travel is the big part. So, just asking if that could be possible cost, or no?

I thought Shattuck was $32,000?

Is the cost of a Thoroughbred season urban legend or truly in the 10's of thousands?

alsaniti: Can you tell which association it is? Also, any idea the cost on these scans and the effectiveness in having a baseline for kids?

Though it will never happen and I understand that so don't go nuts here. I just think the use of full facemasks has allowed the kids to expose their head to concussions. Yes, the elbow and shoulder pads could be part of it. Seamless heavy glass can be another. Helmets have never been better. The imp...

Sorry for continuing a boring thread HOTG. You are continuing the myth. Kids aren't playing with older kids and wanting to change the age cutoff to fix that. The ages are standard 2 years per level. The grade of school is confused by those that hold their kids out of K. PPG has said 5th graders shou...

I would think if USA Hockey is going to create a rule as widereaching as this, they ought to provide the impetus for the rule. (i.e. as a result of the incident at XYZ's association in which these things happened, we have created this rule.) I am not aware of a rink in MN that does not have locker r...

Ooops, sorry. I was not asking about his son, I was asking about Bernie's background. Did he grow up in Minnesota? Did he play youth, HS, college, USA, NHL hockey? Or is he a youth hockey coach that produced good off-spring and parlayed that into a business?

Who is Bernie McBain? What is his hockey background as a player and coach? Where did his kids play youth hockey? What is his axe to grind?

Benito: Yep, the cut-off for school is Sept 1. So started on time.

Thank you Benito. The Sept baby, do you mean turned 6 right when school started, or turned 7 right when school started? The August is obviously common (50-50). The April is rare (less than 5%) I can't think of ever hearing of one full year hold out? That would mean up to 24 months older than some ki...

welder: I just looked at our association's database for 2009-10, from Jr. Gold to Mites. (Boys and only girls playing with boys) It is about 50-50 for July and August birthdates starting school on time. I found close to 70% of June birthdates started on time. I did find a handful of March-May that w...

Question for Benito and Inigo: What month are your kids birthdays?

The time has clearly come to establish AAAA hockey. EVERYONE has a AAA program. I never see A or AA anymore.

If the choice programs were born to fill the void for parents wanting more than the association programs offer, would seem quite simple to choose the choice program, and have the choice program expanded to combine the best of association hockey and the choice. Then, you can follow the rule by only d...