2005 SECTION 1A/1AA Elite II Roster as of 08/30/2005

[Sioux Fan]

Eric Amundson  Forward   Junior 5"10" 190 lbs  L 4/21/1989  Rochester Lourdes<br>Brandon Binder Defense Sophomore 5'8" 160 lbs  2/7/1990    Lakeville South<br>Alex Campbell Forward Sophomore 5'8" 157 lbs L 10/20/1989   Rochester Lourdes<br>Reece Dabroski Forward Junior 5'10" 152 lbs R 12/21/1988      Lakeville South<br>Kevin Donohue Goalie Junior 6'2" 188 lbs L 4/25/1989        Rochester Mayo<br>Nate Dunfee Forward Senior 6'0" 175 lbs R 10/17/1987        Rochester JM<br>Jay Gorman Forward Senior 5'10" 155 lbs L  7/19/1988        Rochester JM<br>Anthony Hahn Forward Sophomore 5'7" 162 lbs R 8/22/1989 Rochester Century<br>Seth Helgeson Forward Freshman 6'2" 170 lbs L 10/8/1990      Faribault<br>Josh Hofstad Defense Sophomore 5'10" 142 lbs L 8/28/1989    Lakeville South<br>Cody Hoksch Forward Junior 5'8" 145 lbs L 9/19/1988        Rochester JM<br>Brandon Isakson Goalie Senior 6'0" 170 lbs R 6/14/1988        Mankato West<br>Ryan Knutson Forward Sophomore 6'3" 175 lbs R  6/18/1987    Rochester Century<br>Cory Krogen Fwd/Def Senior 6'0" 170 lbs L 12/6/1987        Marshall<br>Alex Lair Defense Senior 5'7" 140 lbs L 10/10/1987 Albert Lea<br>Alex Messick Forward Junior 6'1" 175 lbs L 10/20/1988        Lakeville South<br>Erik Ordahl Defense Sophomore 6'0" 170 lbs R 10/2/1989        Rochester Century<br>Grant Pavek Forward Sophomore 5'11" 170 lbs R 6/12/1989     Faribault<br>Adam Peterson Forward Junior 5'8" 160 lbs R  7/15/1988        Marshall<br>Jacob Petricka Forward  Senior 6'4" 190 lbs L 06/05/1988       Faribault<br>Tony Sackett Forward Junior 5'11" 176 lbs R 3/6/1989        Rochester Mayo<br>Jacob Smuda Forward Sophomore 5'8" 157 lbs R 10/18/1989  Faribault<br>Scott Steege Defense Senior 5'9" 160 lbs L 11/23/1987        Rochester JM<br>Jordan Weinand Defense Junior 5'10" 180 lbs R 11/14/1988      Farmington<br>Brad Yetzer Defense Sophomore 6'1" 170 lbs R 7/12/1989        Rochester JM<br><br><br>Also we have two fine young goaltenders working out with us<br>Nic Scudamore Rochester Lourdes<br>and <br>Anthony Maroney of Farmington <p>Hockey Nut in So. MN</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p074.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... xfan>Sioux Fan</A> at: 9/6/05 5:04 pm<br></i>

[Grand Forks]

I thought there were only allowed to be 4 seniors on the roster? Does each section choose how many players to keep? <p></p><i></i>

[Sioux Fan]

You can keep up to 8 but only play 4 in each game. <p>Hockey Nut in So. MN</p><i></i>

[Sioux Fan]

We can dress 4 skaters and the senior goaltender. In other scrimmages and exhibitions we can play all our seniors. <p>Hockey Nut in So. MN</p><i></i>

[Grand Forks]

Does each section get to decide if the roster will contain 18, 20, 25 kids? Or is there a minimum number that the league says each team needs to have?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Sioux Fan]

I think we could have had 18 seniors that would have wanted to play so I think they should have a league for the next best 120 players After Elite 1 picks their guys and another for the next best 120 players after Elite II picks their guys that way every top senior could play good competition and the underclassmen would get a chance to get in 50 games closer to the AAA midget programs. We could have year end tourneys and the cream would rise to the top.<br><br>We could then have an all-star match up at the year end Elite I tourney and send the top players in Elite II to play and see how they fared.<br><br>If their are enough players that want to play why not? <p>Hockey Nut in So. MN</p><i></i>

[Sioux Fan]

I think everyone should carry 25 due to homecomings and such so that we have high tempo games. Even with 25 sometimes you are in Wasau Wisconsin and JM Owatonna and Mayo all had homecoming and we were quite short handed last year. Also competition for playing time is a good thing. <p>Hockey Nut in So. MN</p><i></i>

[Blue Devils fan]

(This message was left blank) <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p074.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... @mnhs>Blue Devils fan</A> at: 8/30/05 8:50 pm<br></i>

[puckhead89]

SiouxFan,<br><br>When you say you have two other goalies working out with you, how did you arrange that? Is one of the two your alternate? <p></p><i></i>

[Sioux Fan]

I have two excellent sophomore Goalies that want to work out<br>They join us at practice and are alternates if one or both of our goalies are at homecoming or something else important.<br><br>These young men like to have the best players in our area shoot at them for a couple hours or so a week. <p>Hockey Nut in So. MN</p><i></i>

[puckhead89]

So, you have two goalies that made the team and two alternates? Shouldn't there be a standard within the league... I don't know for sure, you will, but don't the other sections only take one alternate. Just curious...don't want to stir the pot, but here is another example on some fine tuning that may need to be done as far as Elite II. It just seems too "at will" right now. I am sure they will work on it, but I agree with a comment I read in a different thread....perhaps guide Elite II more along the lines of Elite I....no messing around with sections, no messing around with roster numbers, just do it all the same. <p></p><i></i>

[Sioux Fan]

What difference does it make to you how many kids benefit from our program? <p>Hockey Nut in So. MN</p><i></i>

[puckhead89]

You don't have to get touchy about it. My point is if this Elite II league is supposed to be the real deal, then let's all operate under the same format, right? <br><br>Why should I or anyone be concerned about how many kids benefit from "your" program? Well, there's my point....the Elite II isn't "your" program. Lighten up, Sioux Fan. I am just pointing out some discrepancies as I see them. Just thoughts....just thoughts. <p></p><i></i>

[Sioux Fan]

I allow some young goaltenders to attend our practices and workout because they were both very close in tryouts and are going to have a very limited role in games why cut one.<br><br>I will be able to keep them both busy. This league should be about getting the best boys available from each area and having some great games "period" I have a deep distaste for not allowing some very capable seniors to play as competitive hockey as possible. I think that we should broaden our Leagues and then track them. Find out who the top performers are. I hate that roster form with limits. We should be able to register as many as we like and decide who attends the games. <br><br> Several years ago I got Project Prep to let me have 30 guys. My 28th rated player ended up being our 4th leading scorer. <br><br>That is why I hate limits. We should try to have the best Preparatory High School Fall League we can to get kids ready to play or at least see if they like the game when it is truly tightly contested.<br><br>To send 13 to 16 seniors away (in our area) that really wanted to play is a real shame not counting all that didn't come out.<br><br>I point to the Brunkhorst boy from Lourdes who is now doing well at CC. He played in our program and at the time didn't seem to even know that he is the kind of player the colleges and pros are searching for. A big strong smart kid. It is great for me to see kids like him do well.<br><br>This is what I am hoping for that a few guys on this years team move on and do well and that everyone has fun working their tails off.<br><br>By the way I structured my team in the Project prep this way and I think it is very healthy for the players to earn thier ice time. That lesson is invaluable. I really don't like people that like boundries. I like letting kids rise up and reach for their dreams and I hate when administrative issues get in the way.<br><br>Sorry about all that but I feel we are missing the boat.<br><br>We should have the next best 120 kids in our league and then another if their are a lot of kids turned away at camps.<br><br>I know one year I took all the kids that were cut in an 8 team Baseball league in Austin, MN for 12 and 13 year olds and we formed another team as the league administrators thought to many kids were turned away.<br><br>The team won the league and the playoffs.<br><br>This was pretty interesting no? Also the next year with most of our players back we didn't do as well. <p>Hockey Nut in So. MN</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p074.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... xfan>Sioux Fan</A> at: 8/30/05 6:36 pm<br></i>

[puckhead89]

I don't disagree with your approach, but sometimes guidelines are necessary. I don't understand the benefit of one section taking or being allowed 25 players and then the next section only taking 20...it simply doesn't make sense to me. And it does matter...it matters to those sections who decided to only take 20 players, because 5 who would have made it, did not. Four goalies, as opposed to two...what goalie wouldn't want to be a part of this...even as an alternate...looks good on future resumes for additional chances down the road, if nothing else.<br><br>Sioux Fan, I like and understand your position...I just don't agree with it completely. <p></p><i></i>

[Sioux Fan]

By the way I thought that every team was going to take 25 what teams are not? <p>Hockey Nut in So. MN</p><i></i>

[Sioux Fan]

That is what it is about shining up the resume.. Oh yeah and stopping the puck is good too! <p>Hockey Nut in So. MN</p><i></i>

[powerplay009]

I think what Sioux Fan has done here is great. You're going to need a 25 man roster because some kids will run into problems with homecoming or football or other things.<br>Puckhead-Nothing that Sioux Fan has done yet has been illegal so what are you complaining about. All he is doing is making these goalies/players better during practices not during games unless some are gone at something else. So puckhead what are you going to do when maybe one or both of these goalies are gone at something more important or one of them gets hurt? just play without a goalie for a game? That's why they are there. <p></p><i></i>

[puckhead89]

Good grief....please read posts before jumping down throats. I am not complaining. I am suggesting that if people want elite leagues that require tryouts, then all teams within this elite league need to be operating under the same format. From what Sioux Fan says, he is running his program differently than other sections i.e. taking 4 goalies instead of 2; taking 30 on his total roster where others are taking what...25? To me, Sioux Fan has the right idea....but my point is not all sections are operating this way....it just doesn't make sense. <br><br>And don't blow off the resume thing.....in case you have not noticed, every tryout form for some kind of Minnesota Hockey or USA hockey wants to know your GPA, honors and awards and oh..yeah...what other hockey events have you been involved in? So, again I think the Elite II league should engage in a format ....you may not like rules but they go a long way in forming successful entities. <p></p><i></i>

[puckhead89]

After re-reading Sioux Fan's roster, it appears he is rostering 25 (27 with the sophomore goalies). <br><br>Sioux Fan, did I misunderstand that you had additional players (beyond your two sophomore goalies) who are actually a part of your roster as alternates? And which would put your total number at 30? I may have misunderstood your rostering....if I did, please accept my apology. I understood you to say you were taking 30 total to aid in crunch time for those potential times when players could not be in attendance. I still stand by the fact that if one section handles it this way, then they all should. After all, it fits in with the "giving more an opportunity" approach that we all can agree upon. <p></p><i></i>

[powerplay009]

Puckhead-I'm not trying to jump down your throat, sorry if it sounded that way. Other sections can run there team like this too keeping 25 players and a couple alternates, it's not against any rules. You are going to need to roster 20 for every game in this league otherwise good luck competing for 2 days with 20 minutes periods. <p></p><i></i>

[puckhead89]

I know, I get the strategy of 20 on the roster for game time....what I don't get is why each section isn't required to roster 20 and have x numbers in alternates. I just don't think this is a hard concept to grasp. Total roster numbers should be consistent....not 25 in Section 8 and 30 in Section 1...and you are right, there are no rules broken if you roster 30, but that's my point....get a format. It will only help to justify this league because there are plenty of naysayers out there ready to see this new league die. I am not one of them. <p></p><i></i>

[powerplay009]

Quote from Sioux Fan....By the way I thought that every team was going to take 25 what teams are not? <br><br><br>He has 25 on his roster correct? <p></p><i></i>

[puckhead89]

Yes, but he also has two alternate goalies putting him at 27....then he mentioned that he has approval to place 30 on his roster to include alternates...I understood him to say he obtained that permission from the prep league early on. I just don't know for certain if he has 30 on his full roster or not this year, but it sounded like he did. He will clarify when he gets back on line. I hope he does have 30....then the league can use that as its guideline when it figures out it needs guidelines...... <p></p><i></i>

[I35hockey]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Several years ago I got Project Prep to let me have 30 guys. My 28th rated player ended up being our 4th leading scorer.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Puckhead...........you need to read more carefully............I quoted Souix Fan above.........he was talking about several years ago and the 30 players.<br><br>Sounds like puckhead may have gotten cut from somewhere this year. <p></p><i></i>