WBL goalies

puckhead89
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Re: WBL goalies

Post by puckhead89 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:33 am

Really........ <p></p><i></i>

Ibleedgreen
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Re: WBL goalies

Post by Ibleedgreen » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:15 am

let's be clear...........concerning the goalie situation at white bear any #1 goalie on any team in the conference could play goal at white bear. the truth is that white bear's defense has been very strong since 2000 but this years group is not even close to the talent level of the past with defensive standouts like mercado, blossey, hambley, beaverson, and most recently erhardt. even so, white bear has a better than average defense and their forwards are coached to come back and help out which can defiintely make a goalie's job easier.<br><br>on hartzell.............his dad would rate him in the top three in a field with ken dryden, patrick roy, and martin brodeur and expect you to believe it. <p></p><i></i>

nurg27
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Re: WBL goalies

Post by nurg27 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:43 am

idbleedgreen......................<br>I dont know if you know this but in tryouts for juniors the goalie coach is the one who rates the goalies. I feel a little jelousy issue with you and Hartzell. Also eric tryed out for souix city and had the opputunity to go. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: WBL goalies

Post by Zaid11 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:45 am

Ibleedgreen you a little jealous that Eric left hill??<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

Ibleedgreen
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Re: WBL goalies

Post by Ibleedgreen » Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:08 am

nurg27 and zaid11 - <br><br>do you really think that the head coach and general manager of a tier I hockey team doesn't evaluate or have a say in who his goalie will be? besides, it sure doesn't hurt to hype the kid by saying that he was top 3 in the tryout when he was never going to play there anyway. regarding sioux city or any other junior team for that matter it is called connections. hockey is full of them and don't think for a second that his dad hasn't in the past or won't in the future ask for a favor or two.<br><br>jealousy is a bad thing guys. i call it how i see it. no problem hartzell not being at hill. he was never going to see the ice anyway. that's a fact.<br><br>one thing i will say for sure is faust must be a helluva goalie if he is #1 over a tier I goalie. hartzell will only play a handful of games this year to rest faust or to appease his old man. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: WBL goalies

Post by Grizz78211 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:50 pm

Ibleedgreen you should just stop talking on this site cause you have no idea what your saying and know nothining about the game and you never will<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

Ibleedgreen
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re: wbl goalies

Post by Ibleedgreen » Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:25 pm

grizz78211 -<br><br>you should try for once to say something the slightest bit intelligent and stay away from the childish remarks. it is fine to argue a point as long as you have one. you are entitled to your opinion relative to the subject. perhaps you should spend time formulating an argument on your views again relative to the topic and less time attacking others with a different view of the subject. <p></p><i></i>

puckhead89
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Re: re: wbl goalies

Post by puckhead89 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:27 pm

You gotta admit that ibleedgreen makes a good point that Faust is allegedly playing over a goalie who was invited to play at junior level....hmmmmmm......... <p></p><i></i>

anybodybutwbl
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Re: re: wbl goalies

Post by anybodybutwbl » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:18 pm

the only reason hartzell is there is because who his dad is. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: re: wbl goalies

Post by anybodybutwbl » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:23 pm

wbl hockey both at the youth level and high school level are more about politics than playing{any body remember the wreggerts?}<br><br>i know you will say that it is the same everywhere, that does not make it right <p></p><i></i>

TG663303
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Re: WBL goalies

Post by TG663303 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:51 pm

ibleedgreen,<br><br>Don't even try to tell me that Hartzell couldn't have possibly seen some action at Hill-Murray if he were to have stayed there. I mean look at the goalie situation last year. Hartzell is definately better than Dawson and Scott. <p></p><i></i>

anybodybutwbl
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Re: WBL goalies

Post by anybodybutwbl » Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:58 pm

you people have got to kidding <p></p><i></i>

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Hartzell

Post by MNBigDawg » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:32 pm

all I know is that, even to be on a varsity team, Hartzell must have improved A LOT since his time at Hill. He was an average JV goalie at best ... looked like he was in slow motion most of the time. Based on JV play....I would have taken Scott and McEnany over him any day...Dawson? well that would be a toss up. <br>I am not sure if he would have seen varsity time at Hill...it would have been tough for Lechner to decide which parent to bow down too...Phillipi or Hartzell. <p></p><i></i>

anybodybutwbl
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Re: Hartzell

Post by anybodybutwbl » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:40 pm

it's not how you do... it's who you do <p></p><i></i>

WBLBEARS06
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Re: Hartzell

Post by WBLBEARS06 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:50 pm

well all i know is hartzell has two shutouts in a row, and philipi gave up 5 goals to sta...... <p>The curse lives on.....</p><i></i>

Grizz 07
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hartzell

Post by Grizz 07 » Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:33 am

hartzell is a big kid... moves good ... stops the puck... he has been talkin to more junior teams than just the stampede and if you guys are all too ignorant to give the kid some credit than you need to grow up..... and when hartzell was playing at hill..... he went from about 5'8'' to 6'1''-6'2'' from 8th grade to 9th grade i think anyone would struggle but he has worked hard and made tons of improvements. <p></p><i></i>

Ibleedgreen
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re: wbl goalies

Post by Ibleedgreen » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:41 am

tg663303 -<br><br>sorry but the word on the street is that hartzell was never in the mix at hill. the old man tried the power play on lech and was told that he would be the jv goalie. it must have been made pretty clear because it did not take him long to send eric back to white bear where i am sure he thought his "influence" would have more of an impact on sager which turned out to be totally wrong as faust has been the #1 guy since his sophomore year.<br><br>at hill fangle played every game as a senior despite many blowouts. mike scott was the heir apparent until dawson came in to the mix. for some reason dawson was given the nod over scott and failed misserably. when scott's opportunity came along there was little patience exercised by lech even though the team played poorly in front of scott. enter phillippi (lech's neighbor) who was always going to be the go-to guy. exit hartzell who never had a chance. like it or not that is fact.<br><br>it is obvious you like hartzell and i am sure he has improved like you would expect most players to. if he is so good how come he hasn't beat faust out or why then doesn't he at least play every other game? my guess is what i have stated earlier. he will play some to appease him and his dad and he will get his shot after faust's graduation to show everybody why you are so happy to carry his equipment. <p></p><i></i>

Zaid11
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Ibleedgreen

Post by Zaid11 » Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:22 am

I would have to agree with grizz i bleedgreen knows nothing about hockey and never will. He should just stop talking and go play basketball<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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re: wbl goalies

Post by Ibleedgreen » Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:50 am

zaid11 - <br><br>i can't believe it took you this long to think up a clever comeback. like your buddy grizz78211 you should try for once to say something the slightest bit intelligent and stop with your childish attacks and remarks just because my opinion is different than yours. it is fine to argue a point as long as you have one. objectivity is a good thing. try being objective for once. when formulating an argument try basing your views on some fact no matter how miniscule. try expressing your viewpoint with something of substance in a persuasive and respectful manner. hopefully at some point you will learn this skill. it could come in handy for you in life. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: re: wbl goalies

Post by anybodybutwbl » Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:17 pm

Ibleedgreen is right again.<br>i have seen hartzell for years,he is ok {best i can do} if his last name was anything else he would not be on the team. <p></p><i></i>

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