Private vs. Public

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Private vs. Public

Post by PuckU126 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:37 pm

I just want to see a legitimate reason why people out there bash private schools so much. So to everyone that dislikes private schools, why?<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Private vs. Public

Post by powerplay009 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:41 pm

How many times do we have to go over this?? OR How long will it take this one to be locked up? I'll say the next time Lee gets on. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Private vs. Public

Post by east hockey » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:46 pm

Okay, we can do this one of two ways:<br><br>1) Mitch or I lock the thread and delete it every time someone takes the issue up without understanding the history of this "issue" or...<br><br>2) We hash it out in this topic <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>only</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, with the clear understanding that if this topic spills over into any other topic, Mitch or I delete those posts.<br><br>Preferences? I'll be in contact with Mitch to see what he thinks, of course.<br><br>Lee <p>____________<br>Message Board arsonist since 2005</p><i></i>

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pvsp

Post by hillhockey » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:47 pm

bad, bad topic, but i think its a misunderstanding. and that goes both ways. private schools are misunderstood as rich and public schools are misunderstood as trashy. i think thats at the heart of it...and it showed at the 2002 state tournament in section 206<br>"daddys money" and "trailor trash" chants made that pretty clear.<br><br>not to say that the misunderstandings dont have a solid basis, but they are blown way out or proportion. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Private vs. Public

Post by elliott70 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:48 pm

There are a lot of reasons:<br>1. Private schools are often associated with a religious order, people believe 'these' people have a holier than thou attitude.<br>2. Private schools are usually expensive so people believe these programs are for the rich.<br>3. Private schools (to some extent) recruit students to their school. People believe this flows over to recruiting hockey players based on their hockey skills.<br>4. People believe MN High School Hockey is about playing for your home town. The home town does not come and cheer for AHA.<br><br>I am sure the list is longer, but cannot put more thought into it.<br><br>The above message is the thoughts of some (maybe many) but not necessary the opinions of the messanger. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... liott70</A> at: 1/2/06 8:54 pm<br></i>

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Re: Private vs. Public

Post by PuckU126 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:48 pm

Sorry Lee, I was just curious and I was unaware of the history of this issue.<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Private vs. Public

Post by east hockey » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:51 pm

PuckU126, I understand. I'm just saying that maybe having this one single topic to handle it will prevent the issue from poisoning and hijacking so many of the other threads, as we've seen happen in the past. So, maybe confining it to this thread will be more constructive (or destructive, depending on ones bent).<br><br>Lee<br><br> <p>____________<br>Message Board arsonist since 2005</p><i></i>

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Not much better

Post by EREmpireStrikesBack » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:51 pm

Very, very well put elliott<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls</p><i></i>

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Re: Not much better

Post by elliott70 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:56 pm

Thank you ER,<br><br>I aim to please.<br><br>Of course, my wife has a differing opinion in that regard. <p></p><i></i>

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Lovin' the Catholics

Post by 2AhockeyOldTimer » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:03 pm

I'm lovin' the Catholic schools.<br><br>I, being a St. Cloud local and a Cathedral alumni, know that CHS has been around for over 100 years. It is a hometown St. Cloud school. IMO, people from Cathedral have more pride in playing for a Cathedral sports team than the "city" teams, Apollo or Tech.<br> <p>2A</p><i></i>

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Re: Lovin' the Catholics

Post by powerplay009 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:06 pm

It's different though in St. Cloud because they dont bring in players from players outside the city. Or at least I haven't heard of them bringing in players from outside St. Cloud to play at Cathedral. But at AHA no kids or very few come from the Richfield Youth Association. I'd be alright with all of these private schools if there players came from the town the private school is in. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... play009</A> at: 1/2/06 9:07 pm<br></i>

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Re: Lovin' the Catholics

Post by Zamman » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:18 pm

Lock it up............ <p>________________________________<br>Academy of Holy Angels<br>2005 GIRLS STATE CHAMPS!<br>2002 & 2005 BOYS STATE CHAMPS!!<br>GO STARS!!</p><i></i>

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Re: Lovin' the Catholics

Post by elliott70 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:21 pm

Z-man,<br><br>Everyone is pickin' on AHA cuz they are at the top.<br>Next year when they fall into obscurity, everyone will love them and get back to pickin' on Hill. <p></p><i></i>

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Look At It

Post by EREmpireStrikesBack » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:27 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>But at AHA no kids or very few come from the Richfield Youth Association.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Look at the size of RYHA vs St. Cloud Youth Hockey... there's a little difference. Also, the surrounding areas of St. Cloud bring in some to SCC just like they do at Richfield. There really isn't that much of a difference...<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls</p><i></i>

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State

Post by hawkfan70 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:29 pm

When was the last state tournament with no private schools? <p></p><i></i>

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No Private

Post by EREmpireStrikesBack » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:32 pm

2001 had no AA's. Otherwise 1998 had no privates in A or AA.<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls</p><i></i>

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Re: State

Post by powerplay009 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:33 pm

I'm not ripping on them Zamman, I was just using them as an example like Elliot said. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: State

Post by hawkfan70 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:38 pm

Zam<br><br>It is no different in Duluth<br><br>If you don't go to, went to, or have kids in DM, you cheer for whoever they are playing (kind of like east)<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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State

Post by STCplaya18 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:39 pm

hawkfan70, the last time there was no private schools in state was 1998. <br><br>That year the state tourney had:<br>Eveleth-Gilbert<br>Red Wing<br>Hermantown<br>St. Louis Park<br>Mahtomedi<br>Fergus<br>EGF<br>Mound-Westonka<br>Roseau<br>Anoka<br>Duluth East<br>Jefferson <br>Edina<br>WBL<br>Hastings<br>Owatonna<br> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: State

Post by hawkfan70 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:40 pm

what a great year that was <p></p><i></i>

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Re: State

Post by Zamman » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:56 pm

Richfield is no where near the size of St. Clouds association. Richfield is extremely small, I can see the association combining with Minneapolis or Bloomington to keep afloat in the next 5 - 10 years.... JMO. This is no offense to Richfield, I love it here and my kids go to the schools here, but the numbers do not lie. <p>________________________________<br>Academy of Holy Angels<br>2005 GIRLS STATE CHAMPS!<br>2002 & 2005 BOYS STATE CHAMPS!!<br>GO STARS!!</p><i></i>

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Re: State

Post by mngopher8 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:23 pm

i think i might add that the tryout number for richfields bantams was 18 kids. yeah thats a little low if you ask me. <p></p><i></i>

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hellz angelz r'nt private -- yewz r free ta go dare!!

Post by bluesbuddy » Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:04 pm

dem hellz angelz r gonna winz da state chumpship 'an dare ain't a gawl dern ting anybuddy kin dew 'bout itz.<br><br>plain 'an thimple.<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> best teem out dare by far! <br><br>any udder humble pie opinionz?<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: hellz angelz r'nt private -- yewz r free ta go dare!!

Post by Zamman » Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:10 pm

Since I did not grow up in an association, how many kids are usually trying out for a bantam team and how many are usually picked to play on a team?<br>Richfield had 18, how many should make the team.<br>3 lines = 9<br>2 goalies = 2<br>5 or 6 D = 5 or 6<br>total 18 - 19 and that is not with any extra forwards.... What is correct? <p>________________________________<br>Academy of Holy Angels<br>2005 GIRLS STATE CHAMPS!<br>2002 & 2005 BOYS STATE CHAMPS!!<br>GO STARS!!</p><i></i>

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Been there done that! Plain and Simple! ..by SS

Post by slapshooter » Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:15 pm

The only time folks show displeasure towards private <br><br>schools is when they win the state tourney just like they <br><br>do when Edina and Jefferson and the rest do.<br><br>There are plenty of private schools as well as public <br><br>schools that you never hear much about one way or the <br><br>other because they don't win enough to get noticed.<br><br>It's the WINNERS and their FANS they dislike. <br><br>Not the schools..PLAIN and SIMPLE...<br><br>I remember a day when the nice folks from the public <br><br>schools said the private school teams couldn't hold a <br><br>candle to the public school teams.<br><br>Of course, there were two different tournaments back <br><br>then.<br><br>It's the American way!<br><br>Once you're on top, some folks love to take you down!<br><br>And you don't get much attention until you finish on top!<br><br>Public vs Private is irrelevant.... <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :| --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/indifferent.gif ALT=":|"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><br>L<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> E, SL<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> PSH<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> TER.<br><br>(...a legend in his <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> wn mind...) <p></p><i></i>

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