Warroad vs. USA Women

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Re: No Sir

Post by WarroadWarrior » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:48 pm

I coulda swore it counted <p></p><i></i>

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Re: No Sir

Post by goldy313 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:52 pm

not counted is the last I heard, it gives them 1 to many games. <p></p><i></i>

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Had To

Post by EREmpireStrikesBack » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:53 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"the game will not count on W<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> RR<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ADS record" which is why Fermoyle says it isn't inherently important..<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Warroad teach reading or no?<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls</p><i></i>

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Re: Had To

Post by east hockey » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:57 pm

I wonder if the fact that the game didn't count on their "official record" made that much of a difference once the teams hit the ice tonight. <br><br>Lee <p>____________<br>Message Board arsonist since 2005</p><i></i>

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Re: Had To

Post by goldy313 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:00 pm

I think it would have to, Warroad basically has to change their game completely, especially on the forcheck. You just can't play with normal intensity with the rules being as they were.<br><br>Geez if I weren't banned from the USCHO board I'd really go after some of the people who thought Warroad stood no chance in this one.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Had To

Post by east hockey » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:02 pm

Goldie, I'm laughing imagining what precipitated your being banned from that Forum. <br><br>Lee <p>____________<br>Message Board arsonist since 2005</p><i></i>

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Re: Had To

Post by slapshooter » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:03 pm

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Hopefully we'll get some 'on site' takes from folks that watched the game.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>S<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> S</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Had To

Post by WarroadWarrior » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:06 pm

I went to warroad's schedule, and unless i counted wrong, there were 25 games INCLUDING this game on their schedule, isn't 25 the normal season? did they add a game somewhere? <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Had To

Post by goldy313 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:10 pm

All I can say is take their threats very seriously, and I think the whole board is run by the NOW crowd. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Had To

Post by east hockey » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:11 pm

NOW (shudder). Good thing I've only posted ten or twenty times in the year or so I've been registered.<br><br>Heck, Ciskie posts that many times a day.<br><br>Lee <p>____________<br>Message Board arsonist since 2005</p><i></i>

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Yes it did count

Post by Renegade Ram » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:45 pm

And a win is a win. Couldn't have ended any better. With full contact this isn't even close; even as it was the bigger Warrior players were able to skate through the USA sticks. With the shinny rules applied the girls were able to keep it close good skaters not definitely faster like the trib quote. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Yes it did count

Post by hockeyfever55 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:52 pm

what were shots? <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Had To

Post by goldy313 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:04 pm

on the MSHSL site there are 28 games listed, TRF is listed twice both times leaving 26 games counting tonights. <p></p><i></i>

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Post by EREmpireStrikesBack » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:08 pm

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Re-cap

Post by 4checker » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:40 pm

The Strib's re-cap<br><br> <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Prep Sports<br>A 'Battle of the Sexes' in Warroad <br>Kilpatrick leads New Prague shutout <br>WARROAD, MINN. - When the U.S women's Olympic ice hockey team first proposed Wednesday night's game against the Warroad High School boys, apprehension rippled through Hockeytown USA.<br>Dennis Fermoyle, co-head-coach of the Warroad Warriors, worried that losing to women might mess with the boys' heads. <br><br>"I remember when Bobby Riggs got thrashed by Billie Jean King" [in tennis in 1973] and got totally depressed," Fermoyle said before the game at the Gardens Arena. <br><br>Said Debina Potts, mother of Warroad goalie Tyler Potts: "At first I saw it as a lose-lose proposition. The boys can't play their game because there's no checking. I didn't want my kid lit up all over the place and getting humiliated."<br><br>But then the adults had a novel idea. Listen to the boys. <br><br>And the boys convinced them that honor was at stake. Not the honor that beating women would be, but rather the honor of sharing the ice with the best women.<br><br>"It will be such an honor to play the girls that represent our country," said center Bryce Ravndalen, 16. "And it will be fun for everyone to see how far women's hockey has come."<br><br>The boys' fears of being wildly outplayed turned out to be unfounded. Warroad won 2-1. <br><br>"I thought not being able to check might throw them off more, and it didn't," said Therese McBride, mother of Allen McBride, who scored the second goal for Warroad. "The game has gotten so rough, it's refreshing to see the boys have to rely on finesse and skill."<br><br>During the game, a quick poll of several audience members -- a crowd of more than 2,000 came to the 1,700-seat arena -- indicated that Warroad fans had been torn about whom to root for.<br><br>Chelsey Dunkel, 16, said, "I'm rooting for the girls because I'm a girl."<br><br>Denise Grussing said that because she and her husband, Jon, have children in Warroad schools, she felt obligated to root for Warroad. <br><br>But she said she'd also be happy if the women win. "I'd like to see the boys make it a tight game, though," she said.<br><br>Happy to be in Hockeytown<br><br>Interestingly, the women's team, too, said the match was about honor. <br><br>Not the honor that beating boys would be, but rather the chance to honor a place and a people who have given so much to hockey.<br><br>"We wanted to bring our players to Hockeytown USA," said Ben Smith, head coach of the women's team. He proposed the idea last year when he asked Warroad to add the game to its schedule.<br><br>"This community has a long association with U.S. national teams," Smith said. "This arena has portraits of six [Olympic] medalists on the wall. I don't know of any place with a higher per capita number.<br><br>"The waters run deep here."<br><br>Kim Insalaco, 25, a left wing on the national team, said that for many of the women, coming to this community near the Canadian border was like a pilgrimage. <br><br>"This is the home of the Christian brothers, the grass roots of the Olympics," said Insalaco, of Rochester, N.Y., referring to Olympic medalists Gordon, Roger and Bill and Bill's son Dave. <br><br>She said the town of Warroad couldn't have been more hospitable since the team arrived Monday. <br><br>Hockey parents served the team a potluck dinner, and the team reciprocated by visiting the middle school, where some of the players said they were mindful of how they might be inspiring girls to follow their dreams.<br><br>Playing to win<br><br>The mutual admiration aside, both teams said beforehand that they were going to play to win. <br><br>The boys, in addition to wanting to avoid embarrassment, said the outcome would count on this year's record. Officials said the game was to be played under Minnesota State High School League rules, however, without checking.<br><br>The boys said the more-experienced women might be faster and better stick handlers. So they said they'd try to counter that by keeping the puck in the corners where their strength might be an advantage.<br><br>"We can't let them have it in the open, or they'll tear us apart," Joe Herren, a senior right wing, said before the game. <br><br>The women's team, meanwhile, is preparing for competition at the Winter Olympics in Turin, Italy, in February. "This is full-bore time," Insalaco said.<br><br>Such statements scare adults like Coach Fermoyle. <br><br>"If our guys get beat, they'll hear about it in every arena they go to from here on," he said. <br><br>But several of the boys said it would be worth the risk.<br><br>"We have to remember that they are some of the best in the world," goalie Potts said, making some of the same arguments that convinced his mom. "We're playing Olympians. It'll be fun."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Re-cap

Post by hockeydad » Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:35 am

It meets the MSHSL's definition of a game because<br><br>1-they wore game uniforms<br>2-they kept score<br>3-they advertised the game<br>4-paid officials were used. <br><br>Remember a couple years ago when a bunch of baseball and softball teams had to forfeit games because they played in what they thought were scrimmages in florida or other southern states, only to learn that the league defined these as a game. The league clearly spells out the rules on what is and isn't a game. This one counts. <p></p><i></i>

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If it counts.......by SS

Post by slapshooter » Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:49 am

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>If it counts, which is absurd in my book, then you'd better let Rick Shefchik know and the Grand Forks Herald too while you're at it!</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><br>.....quote from the Grand Forks Herald......Rick Shefchik....<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"The game will not count on Warroad's record"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Can any boys join girls teams in high school?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Or is that another double standard?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>S<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> S</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Counts?

Post by 4checker » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:13 am

SS - <br>I have no idea if it's gonna count, I've just been pasting the Strib's stories, and they obviously think it does.<br>I agree with you 100%, it's absurd in many ways.<br>The whole "it's a real game, but we just can't check" thing kills me. <br>Since when can "convenient" little changes be made to a great game with rules and regulations? <br>What's next? Half the teams at the X decide to play "boot hockey" this spring once they see the competition?<br>It looks like Warroad did an awesome job of hosting a good event, don't get me wrong. They always do. It is a great atmosphere and anyone who ever laced on a skate should take it in once. The U.S. teams obviously realize what the town has meant to the program, and this turned out a real win-win. The boys did themselves proud, by handling it with class, changing their game, and still getting it done. They handled it very well, like Warroad teams usually do. <br> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: If it counts.......by SS

Post by Stitch Lips » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:13 am

<!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:orange;font-family:century gothic;font-size:xx-large;">Warroad boys face U.S. women</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:blue;font-family:times new roman;font-size:medium;">There's no checking tonight, just curiosity</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:maroon;font-family:courier;font-size:xx-small;">By Rick ShefchikKnight Ridder Newspapers</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br>Their coach says it's the least important game the Warroad High School boys hockey team will play all season.<br>But it's drawing the most attention.<br>It will be male vs. female at 7:30 tonight when the Warriors face off against the U.S. Olympic women's hockey team at The Gardens Arena in Warroad in front of what is expected to be a capacity crowd.<br>Dennis Fermoyle, co-coach of the Warriors, is as curious as anyone about what to expect when his boys take the ice against the nation's top women's team.<br>"The more we've been hearing, the scarier it becomes," Fermoyle said. "We didn't know if it would be them 10-0 or us 10-0, but we're hearing they're really good."<br>Indeed, the U.S. women beat the Canadian women's Olympic team 5-3 on Sunday. Their roster is dotted with household names in Minnesota women's hockey, including Natalie Darwitz, Krissy Wendell and Jenny Potter.<br>"We may have bitten off more than we can chew," Fermoyle said.<br>So why take the bite at all? The game will not count on Warroad's record, which is why Fermoyle says it isn't inherently important. But the Olympic women were going to be practicing at the Warroad arena anyway, and when Warroad athletic director Craig Oftedahl asked his coaches last year if they wanted to play the game, they said yes.<br>"It's an honor to be asked," Fermoyle said. "I've always been told there's no greater honor than to be asked to play for your country. It's hard to say no because you're afraid of being beaten and looking bad."<br>Both teams are anticipating a tough game.<br>"I think they're going to be a good team," said Potter, who played high school hockey at Edina before leading the nation in scoring for the University of Minnesota-Duluth in 1999-2000. "They're going to be fast. They're going to make you think."<br>The respect is mutual.<br>"They have a different style, they do a lot of nice things and they stick handle well," Warriors junior Aaron Marvin said. "They're all very good players, and they're fast. It will be fun to match up against their skills."<br>Fermoyle said another coach told him the slowest skater on the Olympic team is faster than the fastest skater on his team. But in reality, no one knows for sure until the two teams take the ice.<br>The game will be played under Minnesota State High School League rules, except there will be no checking. While taking away a physical part of the game could be a disadvantage for the boys, Warroad is downplaying its significance.<br>"It won't be a big deal," said Marvin, who said everyone on the team has played no-check hockey in summer camp. "We're all used to it. We've all grown up playing it. It will be outdoor-rink hockey, just on a little higher level."<br>"If there was hitting, it could be worse," Fermoyle said. "I understand a couple of those women are really strong. They're good athletes. It could be embarrassing for a kid to get drilled by a girl. We may overdo the avoidance of playing the body, and end up looking like a fool that way, whereas they're playing it the way they know it can be played.<br>"I don't mean to sound whiny here. I think there are a lot of people who are not giving that team enough respect. Girls hockey has really come a long way in the last few years. We have a hockey school, and we've seen the difference from 10 years ago and today. We know they're going to be good."<br>Who's faster? Who's more physical? Questions like that have contributed to the hype surrounding the exhibition game.<br>"Warroad is Hockeytown USA, so it's going to be crazy," Darwitz said. "I have a buddy that lives up there and every time I go it's so welcoming. Everybody talks about hockey. In 2002, we played up there against the University of Minnesota and it was a packed house. We signed every autograph. It was awesome."<br>This time the crowd has its own horse in the race, so the atmosphere should be even greater. And while neither team wants to lose, the competition is more imporant than the outcome.<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :p --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Compliments of the Grand Forks Herald <p></p><i></i>

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Slappy the GF herald is wrong

Post by Renegade Ram » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:11 am

This Ricky chap made a boo-boo he made the mistake a good reporter shouldn't he didn't check his facts from more than one source, it did and does count. To be played it had to be sanctioned by the HS league. nuff said about that. Boy, I hope Scotty was misquoted in the trib cuz that wasn't the case at all. Too bad the Lady Warriors lost themselves in the moment instead of realizing whose representing THEM....<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/grin.gif ALT=" >D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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Its Over!!

Post by crosscheck » Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:06 am

Great, the boys won! I'm glad this game is over, now we can get back to "real" hockey.<br><br> I wish the USA team the best in the Olympics, but they have no fan of girls hockey in me as the High School State tourney will obviously have better hockey than the entire womens Olympic competition.<br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Its Over!!

Post by gr19 » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:16 am

It would be nice if no one showed up for the girls tourney after all the BS about playing at the Xcel because it's not fair. They end up at the X due to availability, will kill their atmoshpere, but they get what they ask for. <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Its Over!!

Post by goldy313 » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:01 am

So which of Warroads <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>26</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> games counts as a forfiet then?<br><br>Nice that in the whole Strib story not one thing about the game itself is mentioned, just a bunch of crap about how it's a feel good story for both sides. <p></p><i></i>

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Barnum 'n' Bailly.................................by SS

Post by slapshooter » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:01 am

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Well Renegade,</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Everything about this game smacks Barnum 'n' Bailly to me!</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>It is interesting to me that not much has been said</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>about how the actual game went on this forum as of yet.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Was Harren really afraid that the W<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> RRI<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> RS would get "torn apart" if the ladies had the puck in open ice?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Was this a PTA meeting or a real hockey game?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Was the coach really afraid that one of his boys would get blasted through the boards by some burly woman on skates?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Do any of these women shave?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Was the slowest skater</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>on the womens team faster than the fastest W<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> RRI<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> R ?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Can Crookston schedule in some girls teams in order to improve their Minnesota BOYS High School Hockey record next year?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Did the boys say excuse me when they passed the women on their way to the net?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Did Potts make a lot of saves or did the womens goalie play out of her head?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Who played 'fifth line center' for the W<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> RRI<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> RS?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Was there any penalties besides the one's the W<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> RRI<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> RS will endure for counting this game as a win for their 2005-2006 MInnesota BOYS High School Hockey season?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Have any of the players on the boys team broken up with any players on the girls team for rooting for the women?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Inquiring minds want to know!</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>S<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> S</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br> <p></p><i></i>

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Re: Its Over wendy da fat lady tinkles!

Post by bluesbuddy » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:13 am

hay <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>cross-eyed czech</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> --- accord'in to yerz way uv tinkling, wheeze should abolish womenz sports 'an never watch doze sisterz, serena 'an vanessa williamz play tetanus. we should never watch mia hamm 'an her cohorts kick donkey in succor.<br><br>wellz - let'z mah-self tellz yewz dat dare r more women in dis world den men 'an majority rules buddy!!<br><br>learnz ta live wit itz.<br><br>yewz sounds like yewz hate women so much dat yewz 'av a tendency to <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>lean</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> da udder way <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> mah-self wood hate ta be (_!_)utted up 'gainst yewz in a tummy reed crowded bar at da state tourney mint. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

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