Warm-up approved
Warm-up approved
<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.startribune.com/stories/503/ ... <!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The league's board also voted to have a one-minute warmup for hockey players between periods, a proposal hockey coaches strongly supported.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
Re: Warm-up approved
I think thats pretty gay rule, Its not like they lost their touch over a 20 minute intermission. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Warm-up approved
I agree with VHS15. I dont think that a 1 minute warmup after the intermission is necessary, there is no point to it. and i dont think that the players are going to need it after a 10 minute break. <p></p><i></i>
Re: Warm-up approved
well said, 1 minute isnt going to do anything, maybe a few shots at the goaltendors but its not like a player needs it. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Warm-up approved
I am pretty sure thats not what they mean by one minute warm up. After the intermission usually only the starters are allowed on the ice to skate around and stretch now the whole team can. Not so dumb. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Warm-up approved
Actually, I think it is a great rule. One that should have been implemented long ago. Everyone should know that the more stretching or warming up that any athlete does before competition is valuable...not only for better play but for added protection against injury. I also have strong opinions on the proper and most effective way to warm up goaltenders....but that's a different topic. <p></p><i></i>
coaches have been pushing for this
This was the second or third year the league considered the rule. The coaches have been pushing for this for a while. They want the players to at least be able to skate once or twice around the rink to stretch out before the play starts again. <p></p><i></i>
Re: coaches have been pushing for this
I think this is a great rule. Recent studies have shown that stretching before has little to no injury prevention benefit, but warming up properly helps tremendously. You can stretch all you want before you hit the ice, but getting the core temperature back up is what's important. It's amazing how much your muscles will tighten up and core temperature drop in 15 minutes of sitting down in the locker room. I still think this is a half measure...I wish it were 3 minutes. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Warm-up approved
If for no better reason I think the warmup would be great for the JV player who sat on the bench for the first two periods of the varsity game and will get a few shifts in the third. Nice to be able to touch the ice during the first and second period intermissions. Instead of trying to play hard a few shifts after not touching the ice since pre game warm ups. <p></p><i></i>
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no harm, no foul
Agreed with East hockey puck those players who only get ice time with big leads will benefit most from this... and besides what will it hurt? It will either do nothing or be positive I don't see harm in this at all. <p></p><i></i>
warm-up
It was great not having the warm-up... kept the cheerleaders off the ice! <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p074.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... >ref101</A> at: 8/16/05 8:52 pm<br></i>
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Re: warm-up
Interesting point ref. I agree we dont NEED the cheerleaders on the ice, but remember the game is for the participants, mainly the kids and having the cherleaders on the ice for one cheer wont kill you.. <p></p><i></i>
Warm Up
The rule made absolutely no sense. Whether you have been sitting for a period, or sitting in the locker room, it was ridiculous to have to go straight to the bench.<br><br>Often we forget the game is for the players. I'd rather spend a few extra minutes to allow them to properly be ready to play.<br><br>The next rule to go should be the five second face-off. Doesn't hurt the game for a little strategy. A good official can properly control the flow of the game. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: warm-up
i don't think that this rule should have been implemented. when i am playing in a game, i do not need a warm up. <p></p><i></i>
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warmups
This is a dumb idea that is replacing a dumber idea. Making players go straight to the bench was stupid to begin with. However, we all know that one minute will turn in to three minutes by the time everything gets organized and everyone does their rah rah cheer. If you sit in the locker room for 15 minutes skate for a minute and then go to the bench for five minutes it serves no purpose. When does the minute start, when both teams finally hit the ice. I hope they don't allow pucks. The MSHSL should be working on ways to solve some other major problems with HS athletics instead of worrying about these type of things. <p></p><i></i>
Ref101
Why doesn't it make sense. I want to add 3+ minutes to the game, but I don't want the 5-5-5 second rule. That should go also. An extra 10 minutes doesn't hurt anyone to make the game about the players - not coaches, officials or fans. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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5 second rule
The 5 second rule is good for the game. Lets keep it moving. I think everyone likes it excpet the refs. This warmup is pointless. Anyone with some knowledge of physiology knows that a one minute warmup is not enough. Add this to a list of stupid things the MSHSL has done. It is not as great as their brilliant TierII idea for a state tourney, but it is not necessary. Give the teams 13 minutes between periods and if they want to skate around after the zamboni is off, let them but both teams need to be on the bench when the clock hits 0:00. <p></p><i></i>
Warm Up
Gphrhcky22 - "Everyone likes it except the refs." Yet it was the refs that got the rule instituted. Were do you get your facts. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Warm Up
I don't think Cheerleaders are that bad on the ice, it is a part of many high school traditions (i.e. Greenway) and high school hockey.<br><br>Does the one minute warm-up allow pucks and shooting on the goalie? Because if it does it is a bad rule, I'm not against players skating around before heading to the bench. But I like the old school way of only the starters going out on the ice and everyone else going directly to the bench. <p>AHA 2002 & 2005 State Champions!<br></p><i></i>
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Re: Warm Up
And I also think the five second rule should stay. It doesn't allow coaches with less depth to slow down the play and allow their players to get more rest. It helps the better conditioned team. Five seconds is plenty of time for the coaches to make up their mind which line should go out next, most coaches already have an idea of who is going out on the ice next or whom they are matching against the other teams lines. Good rule. <p>AHA 2002 & 2005 State Champions!<br></p><i></i>
Re: Warm Up
Wasn't the 'old way' to allow all players to skate around for a little bit to get 'warmed-up' and, more so, to get 'fired up'.<br>But they changed because somewhere, somehow, some players got out of hand at center ice, so teh new rule came in - only starters on the ice in their own end.<br>Now they are relenting a little - do not punish today's kids for yesterday's kids' mistakes. <p></p><i></i>
keep in mind...
keep in mind, it's not the mshsl that asked for this. The coaches did, so don't be calling the mshsl dumb if you dont like it. They've been asking for it for a couple years, and it had been turned down before. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: keep in mind...
Re: coaches have been pushing for this<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> I think this is a great rule. Recent studies have shown that stretching before has little to no injury prevention benefit, but warming up properly helps tremendously. You can stretch all you want before you hit the ice, but getting the core temperature back up is what's important. It's amazing how much your muscles will tighten up and core temperature drop in 15 minutes of sitting down in the locker room. I still think this is a half measure...I wish it were 3 minutes.<br><br><br>Everyother sport at this level has a warm up. It is better for the kids, more fair for players that have sat on the bench awhile and more safe. It should have never happened that there were no warm ups. <br>Keeping the cheerleaders off the ice is not a good reason to prevent a brief warmup nor lazy refs. 5 laps around the zone won't hurt anybody... <p></p><i></i>
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Players Yes, Cheerleaders NO!
Definitely an improvement over the no warm-up. Very important for the bench-warmers. If this saves one groin and clears some butterflies along the way its done its job. What I disagree with is; if it allows cheerleaders on the ice between period. Pre-game fine, during NO. Some of those gals don't skate real well and can be intimidated by the players whizzing by. We all must remember the game is for the PLAYERS and do right by them; it's not for the cheerleaders, fans, coaches or officials even if we think it is.... <p></p><i></i>