MSHSL Replay

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:55 am

There is an article in that liberal soap box fishwrap known as the Strib today that indicates the MSHSL is thinking about instant replay for its tournaments. I wonder if any Spuds fans would be in favor of that. I think IR is good if its use is resticted. The problem is, in some sorts, that they use it too much. Clearly the disallowed Moorhead goal in the championship game would have been a good situation to have it.

Synergy10 · Post by **Synergy10** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:03 pm

I completely agree with you.

slapshotbg · Post by **slapshotbg** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:54 pm

yeah i wonder if any aha fans are in favor of it too!!!

Jesrober · Post by **Jesrober** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:37 pm

Replay is a good choice, not just for Moorhead fans. I mean think about it there is only 3 people on that ice that make the decisions and they do the best they can do, but they miss things. By the time a team gets to the state tournament they worked like hell to get there and to take away their dreams because the call wasn't right is nothing short of heartbreaking to those kids. If anything it gives them an extra eye out on the ice. As long as they aren't using it every play there is no reason it should get out of hand.

defencewinsgames · Post by **defencewinsgames** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:28 pm

ok RUSH!! GET A LIFE!!<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin">

Zamman · Post by **Zamman** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:34 am

I am an AHA fan. Let it happen. that game is in the past..... It iwll mean nothing for last year... Move on ________________________________ Academy of Holy Angels 2005 GIRLS STATE CHAMPS! 2002 & 2005 BOYS STATE CHAMPS!! GO STARS!!

RinkRat10506 · Post by **RinkRat10506** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:18 am

I'm in favor for it.

FreeAGENT · Post by **FreeAGENT** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:09 pm

Sort of takes away from the traditional high school hockey concept. I'd rather focus on better officials than play review. But with new technology comes changes, I could take it or leave it.

RLStars · Post by **RLStars** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:13 pm

I personally don't see anything wrong with video replay of goals. Freeagant says: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>I'd rather focus on better officials than play review.<hr></blockquote> but we need to remember that in the Moorhead game, the referees had to make a decision in "Real time" without a replay video that everyone watching got to see. This replay was slowed down so we all got a good look at it. Don't blame the ref's right away. Put on the stripes, lace up your skates and give it a try. Its not as easy as you think. Give the officials the added benefit of viewing goals via instant replay, so the right call can be made.

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packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:51 am

I agree that it should be used but only to review allowed/disallowed goals. The NFL over uses it. Baseball seems to do just fine without it. Hockey could benefit by its use as was evident in the Spud/Stars game. But if they start reviewing icing and offsides calls...forget it. There is now this obsession with "getting it right". Refs doing their best isnt enough for us anymore. I guess it was just a matter of time before it reached high school sports.

goldy313 · Post by **goldy313** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:47 am

I'd rather not see it used, the WCHA, NCAA, and NHL all use it but just to see if the puck crosses the goal line. (and to award assists) We've all been at, or watched games where the entire play was offsides to begin with, but that's not reviewable. It seems almost counter productive, the league can come back and apologize for missing the offsides, but upon review the goal stands. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"> Football is a 5-10 second burst then the play stops, even basktball has many times where the play is stopped. Instant replay can work in that situation, but hockey is too fluid.

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:12 am

Its a good point goldy.This "getting it right" philosophy is hard to implement at times. Your example is excellent......we review it to see if it crossed the goal line or not but not whether the whole play was offsides in the first place. So, would the replay system used by WCHA etc. have changed the ruling in the Spud/Stars game when they ruled it was played with a high stick? Come on back.

goldy313 · Post by **goldy313** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:29 am

Good question, I've seen goals awarded on the ice overturned because of a high stick or man in the crease, but I don't know if replay has put a goal on the board that wasn't awarded on the ice because of an infraction. i.e. overruling a high stick. It would be a good question for the USCHO crowd, but I'm banned from there. I wish POI was around, the experts there would have an answer post haste.

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:10 pm

Very good points Goldy <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"> How'd u get banned?<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"> Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls

FreeAGENT · Post by **FreeAGENT** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:02 pm

Isn't that the sole purpose of officials, to make those right calls in 'real time'? High School officials obviously will make mistakes, it's part of the game, and it always has been. If the demand was high enough for replays I would be all for it, but it's clear that we don't need the system. Once again, I'm not against it.

FreeAGENT · Post by **FreeAGENT** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:07 pm

Was this your attempt at a witty joke?

dman007 · Post by **dman007** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:58 pm

Yeah I think Holy Angels could have used replay against Centennial in the tourney in 04

Zamman · Post by **Zamman** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:36 pm

Thanks for bringing this up. If there was replay in 2004, the game vs Cenntenial would probably ended up a little different. But we cannot turn back the clock, but this brings up a valid point for the replay issue..... Something to think about. ________________________________ Academy of Holy Angels 2005 GIRLS STATE CHAMPS! 2002 & 2005 BOYS STATE CHAMPS!! GO STARS!!

Renegade Ram · Post by **Renegade Ram** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:52 pm

Pandora's box is already open at too many levels. Eventually, as our world goes more Orwellian the officials will have headsets, there will be an individual "flying camera" on each player viewed by a spotter and he will discuss the infraction with the persons actually working the playing area. The players will have a device sending a signal showing their position and speed on the ice for coaching strategy review(this is already in early use stage) could this also be used to determine position infractions ie. offsides. It should soon be possible to evaluate with break beams on the lines whether a puck fully crossed a line or there was an icing or offside committed. I'm still old school enough to want 2 refs working a game, you can toss in a lineman if you want. The game is played in real time it should be judged in real time. However...<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D">

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:28 pm

I think the best argument against replay is that it may change the "natural balance " of things. Maybe you lose a fumble that should have been called a dead ball ....but then you get marginal defensive holding call go your way that keeps a drive alive. The problem is that IR reviews the fumble call and not the holding. Same type of thing can happen in hockey as goldy pointed out. The other team scores a goal on a play that should have been called offsides but is not reviewable and the goal you "score" gets reversed because of replay. Most people subscribe to the philosphy that over the course of a game, things even out. Does selective replay change that? If we are so obsessed with getting it right, why not review everything? The answer is obvious but if we cant review everything, maybe we should review nothing.

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