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sloppyice
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Remember it was Kennedy

Post by sloppyice » Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:57 pm

I appreciate everyone's enthusiasm out of the blocks, but it was Kennedy! If this group is able to put away AV at the end of the week with the same ease. I may become a believer. <p></p><i></i>

jhshockey3
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Re: Remember it was Kennedy

Post by jhshockey3 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:13 pm

Very true, good point sloppyice. AV is gonna be tough considering they shut out Lakeville 8-0. Plus its at home for them. <p></p><i></i>

HQDRock
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Re: jefferson

Post by HQDRock » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:31 pm

Last year's Jefferson team certainly had some quality players. B.C. was an exceptional player along with Overman and Wild. And needless to say, capitalizing on the key players skills and abilities were probably a big part of the game plan last year. But the team also included some kids that probably thought that they were going to be cut from the team and each of them made big contributions in key games. Anyway, that was last year. I would guess that the current Jefferson team's success this year will depend more on how well they utilize the entire team rather than a few key players.<br><br>Having said that, it could be argued that the current Jefferson team has more quality top to bottom than last year’s team. Each of the “top-5” teams mentioned in these posts is probably in the same situation. Each will have injuries along the way and kids that do bonehead stuff to earn suspensions. The majority (if not all) of the current varsity players in the state high school league probably spent a fair amount of time training in the off season and some of them will emerge from the shadows of last years best players. I’m sure that there are a few players on this years Moorhead team waiting to show us their stuff that we didn’t see last year while Brian Lee was gathering all of the attention.<br><br>So to complete my rant, I agree with the general consensus that a #2 ranking for Jefferson is somewhat optimistic at this point in the season. IMHO, this Jefferson team needs to prove that they are worthy of even a top-10 rank and to do that I think you’ll see some new names emerge as contributors.<br><br>Not to diverge from the subject of Jefferson’s ranking but I have to commend Kennedy for their effort on Saturday. The Jefferson student section was a bit over board with the chants for Kennedy’s goalie. Without his efforts this was easily a 10-0 game.<br> <p></p><i></i>

MediaGuide
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Re: jefferson

Post by MediaGuide » Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:00 pm

To say that even a top 10 ranking for Jefferson is questionable is in itself highly questionable. The Kennedy game is not one Jefferson would ask for out of the blocks, but the Jags came out of this one in a similar situation as they did opening against HM last year when HM was not that strong - the unestablished talent took a good first step and should build rapidly from here. Kennedy played a solid game for their personnel mix, but if the scorekeep had counted shots correctly he or she would have only credited Kennedy with 12 instead of 18. Like many BJ v BK games, the third period was all about who could land the biggest hit. Jefferson will need to see more scoring from the newer forwards, which they will.<br><br>And its not just the unestablished talent. Remember that LaBombard's goal was set up nicely to start but the actual shot came from below the goal line and off the Kennedy goalie's backside. Levine setup Hovey beautifully more than once and no goals, although I think Hovey's stick broke on the best chance he was given. Both of those guys should get one in a game like this more often than not. <br><br>Jefferson is definitely a top 3-6 team out of the gates, we'll see if they can hold. It'll most likely help to get Dupont back against Lakeville on Saturday, we'll see how that goes. Also, the students treated the Kennedy goalie like they treat every goalie, which is also exactly like the students at my school treated every goalie - but he did play an excellent game.<br><br>Bigger things to worry about in HS sports and HS hockey than the Jefferson students, and while I wish they'd tone it down a bit as well, they're by no means anything that anyone needs to worry about.<br><br>The AV game will tell much, but don't hype it too much. Remember that last year Jefferson beat them 9-1 or so early and AV still finished extremely well. This year's team may need a little more time to gel, which is a strength of Lindquist's. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

cuda701
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Re: jefferson

Post by cuda701 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:10 pm

I enjoy reading your observations, MediaGuide. I am, undoubtably a Jefferson fan, but your comments also contain constructive criticism. (you don't always see that from posters). <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Hope to read much more since I am unable to see many games this year. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... cuda701</A> at: 11/28/05 10:11 pm<br></i>

hockeyislife06
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Re: Jefferson

Post by hockeyislife06 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:00 pm

And a great post by HQDROCK... I agree with your statement on utilizing the entire team rather than just a few key players. You hit it right on the ball, last year Jefferson's talent was seen as BRIAN CONNELLY. Yes, he was a fantastic player and he, along with Overman and Wild, lead the team to the state tournament. <br><br>I believe that with the leadership of this year's captains and the hard work of this year's players, Jefferson will have what it takes to get to the State Tournament once again. <br><br>However, we do not know the true depth of the team, and it will be shown on Thursdays game vs. Apple Valley. AV has some great defense along with a pretty strong goalie, so it will be interesting to see what the Jaguars can put together.<br><br>It's still early in the season so its hard to make any determinations as to who will have a successful season, but so far so good for the Jags. Every single player on that team has a huge amount of talent, and can only improve as the season goes on.<br><br>So in conclusion, HQDROCK made some extremely good points, Jefferson ranked as #2 is highly optimistic, but only time will tell. <br><br>Oh yes, and to the fans: your section is absolutely insane. A little out of control at times, but if I were playing I would be intimidated. Keep up the good work. <p></p><i></i>

juniorhockey
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Re: Jefferson

Post by juniorhockey » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:52 am

I think everyone has made some real good comments on this game and on the two teams. <br><br>I thought the game seemed like a typical first-of-the-year game. Little sloppy in the neutral zone with Jefferson being a better puck control team, but guys crowding lanes. It's early.<br><br>Things I were surprised with... Tom O'Donnell was really impressive. He has a lot of speed and ice hands. It will be fun to see what line he ends up on. I expected a little more out of Baylor Dieter. Not that he played bad, but I expected him to shine. It's early and it was one game. I agree with some of the comments on Ben Roberts. I think he's got a ton of potential and if he continues to develop he could be there best Def. (Yep, I said it) I'm not as sold on KC Kranz yet. I think he needs a little strength. Levine is as good as it gets and I look forward to watching him fill nearly every role a forward can. M. Johnson looked solid for Kennedy. <br><br>Fun to watch this team come together and Jefferson should do well this season, I was surprised. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

HQDRock
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Re: Jefferson

Post by HQDRock » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:07 pm

Okay, I’ll concede on the top-10 comment and agree with a ranking range of 3-6. Just trying to pay some respect to the many good teams that are shooting for that same honor.<br><br>And with regard to the fans, don’t read too much into it. Their enthusiasm is over the top, which is great.….I’ll go out on a limb and rank the Jefferson student section as #1 in the state.<br> <p></p><i></i>

hockeyislife06
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Re: Jefferson

Post by hockeyislife06 » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:11 pm

I'll have to agree 100% on that one. There is absolutely no question that Jefferson students are the craziest fans in the state. <p></p><i></i>

MediaGuide
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Re: Jefferson

Post by MediaGuide » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:46 pm

Juniorhockey - not sure I agree with you on Kranz, and don't be fooled by his size. He's tough as nails and is always looking for somebody to hit. He put more than one Eagle on the ice on Saturday in his first Varsity game. <p></p><i></i>

juniorhockey
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Re: Jefferson

Post by juniorhockey » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:52 pm

I have been wrong before<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> . I agree he skates well and seems to play the body hard. I think some of his decisions were interesting. But it was his first varsity game so I'll give him some time I guess <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

MediaGuide
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Re: Jefferson

Post by MediaGuide » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:59 pm

He'll need some time on that 'decision' thing, I agree with you on that & think he'll improve with some more experience. KC's main issue has always been his "temper," which is part of his passion and an asset he brings to the ice if its controlled, and I was more than impressed with his poise in that regard on Saturday. <p></p><i></i>

hockeyislife06
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Re: Jefferson

Post by hockeyislife06 » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:31 pm

I think that KC could turn into one of Jefferson's best defensive players.<br><br>He plays hard and he plays with a lot of passion. As it has been said before, don't be fooled by his size because he's not afraid of anyone. He's willing to take a hit just as well as he can give one. <br><br>I say, give him time because he's just warming up. He's an overall great player. <p></p><i></i>

HockeyFan38
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jefferson

Post by HockeyFan38 » Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:10 am

hhmm, I'd agree with you that KC is definately a solid defensmen, the key to his sucess will be how well he moves the puck and how well he controls himself. Before i think of him as one of jefferson's best defensmen id like to see him move the puck like a #1 defensmen. You also have to look at how much some of his hitting helps the team.<br><br>Jefferson definatly has some solid defense and forwards this year and it will be fun to see if they can keep their ranking.<br><br>Keep in mind that it is very early in the season, most early season rankings are a potential of the team for the year. Jefferson definately has the "potential" to be #2 in state.<br> <p></p><i></i>

troll21
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Re: jefferson

Post by troll21 » Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:39 am

How did the Barr kid play? <p></p><i></i>

HockeyHoser09
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Barr

Post by HockeyHoser09 » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:31 pm

Kevin Barr played pretty good. It was pretty evident that he was nervous to start the game, as most kids would be playing their first game for a new club. As the game went on he settled down and did what he did best and thats use his good hands and move the puck. I believe he had an assist as well. I would look for him to get better with every game and become their 2nd defensemen. <p></p><i></i>

MediaGuide
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Re: Barr

Post by MediaGuide » Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:24 pm

Many people would say that Barr is already the 2nd D. I basically look at Barr and Roberts even in that department. <p></p><i></i>

HockeyHoser09
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Barr

Post by HockeyHoser09 » Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:23 pm

I would agree with that statement MediaGuide...IMO if he can get quicker he can become a great player and a big help to the Jags this season. <p></p><i></i>

HockeyFan38
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moving on...

Post by HockeyFan38 » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:20 pm

I think we pretty much covered the defense on the jags, the real question this year will be if the forwards can put the puck in the net on a tough defensive team. Apple Valley should be a good test for them against medvick and fisher on defense. Any insights on jefferson's forwards? <p></p><i></i>

HockeyHoser09
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Jags Forwards

Post by HockeyHoser09 » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:30 pm

Jeffersons first line could very well be one of the best in the state with LaBombard, Hovey and Josh Levine. Hovey is fast and will have some great opportunities playing with Levine, who is developong into a great power forward. As for LaBomard he is faceoff machine. Together the three move the puck very well and know where each other are at all times. The second is very solid lead by Shupe and the very quick Dupont. The third line rounds things out nicely, look for Olson to lead this line. I think the have the offense needed to get by the Eagles my prediction 3-1 Jags... <p></p><i></i>

hockeyislife06
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jags

Post by hockeyislife06 » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:37 pm

I think it is safe to say Jefferson is off to an amazing start. With the win over Apple Valley tonight 3-0, they proved they have what it takes to be top in the lake confrence. Apple Valley played a good game with Beggs being pretty consistant in the goal, but they just couldn't put it together. The Jags seemed shaky in the first period but pulled through after the beautifully set up shot to junior Josh Levine. Josh also scored on an empty net.. and senior Brian Shupe made a beautiful goal on AV's power play. <br><br>So for those of you who were saying "it was kennedy!"... relax, Jefferson just proved themselves once again that they are truly at the top in the Lake.<br><br><br>As for the fans, they were crazy tonight as always. AV's fans were sitting down almost the whole game... congrats Jaguar fans. <p></p><i></i>

sloppyice
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Re: jags

Post by sloppyice » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:18 am

a nice win for the powder blue,,,,,<br>but i don't think 2 and 0 a season makes.....<br>a lot of hockey left to play...<br>last year I recall the Jags thrashing AV something like 8 to 1 in the first game. <br> <p></p><i></i>

cuda701
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Re: jags

Post by cuda701 » Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:46 pm

I also think the beginning of the season is not a tell all. I was not at tonight's game and as of yet do not have details, but I'd bet my bottom dollar it won't happen again.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... cuda701</A> at: 12/3/05 10:50 pm<br></i>

PierBridge
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Jefferson

Post by PierBridge » Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:51 am

How did the Jags look in the loss, did they out shoot North, how did the Youngster look "Tommy O.D." heard he is on the first line power play.<br><br>Thanks Pier. <p></p><i></i>

jaguarhockeysuperfan
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Lakeville North game

Post by jaguarhockeysuperfan » Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:13 am

Jefferson got screwed! the refs took away three of our goals, two were for sure (i could see them from the other side of the rink), and the third was questionable. Lakeville North played pretty inconsistent getting their goals off of lucky plays that never should have developed. As for the Jaguars our inability to complete passes was our ultimate demise. I believe that if we would have completed more passes we could have clinched this game. I also belive that Lakeville North is a bunch of whiners (they argued every call the refs made except the goals that were taken away, and i think the jaguar fans made the goalie cry a little). on a final note Lakeville North got lucky enough to catch us on a very bad night, and it will not happen again!<br><br>P.S. Props to the Jaguar fans for getting inside the goalies head, we got him so frustrated that he sat in the goal after the period had ended and wound up freaking out and throwing the goal backwards, what a baby. One more thing the Jaguars have the loudest ,rowdiest, and dirtiest fans in the metro (possibly the state) and that is not up for debate! <p></p><i></i>

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