3AA conspiracy

[Hillfan]

Must agree nolook. Look at 1AA as well. 4AA itself, even with Wayzata, still won't be great. They didn't impress me very much this year, and will lose guys like Lucia for next year.... <p></p><i></i>

[hcky0809]

Lumpy21 - great idea but logistic nightmare! I think everyone would agree that if the intent for the state tournament is to have the absolutely best teams represented then seeding is probably the best way to do it. However, given the geographical locations of all of the high school teams, unless you had regional sites, it would be difficult to schedule the games. <p></p><i></i>

[East13]

Yeah, East beat WBL if you didn't remember. Sections are based by regions, not be team strengths. Not this year or really last year, but the years before that, 7AA had three or four solid teams in East, CEC, GR, Greenway, or other teams. It happens to all the sections at different times. It is a cycle like many people have already said, and the sections shouldn't be changed because there are good teams in one section. If you moved teams around to be in other sections, do you think East or CEC or GR would want to go down to Centennial to play a section game? I don't think so. I know East already plays Centennial, but not for a section game, and they switch off playing them here in Duluth and down in the cities. With section games, East plays CEC at Cloquet and in Duluth, same with GR. Teams would not like this, and sections are still and always should be based on regions and not whether the teams are good or not, it's just how it works. <p></p><i></i>

[WBLBEARS06]

Do you people not understand? The whole point in changing sections is to spread the good teams out and get better teams to state. If you think teams are in there section you are right but why did ER move to 7AA. 2 weeks ago or so we argued that Centennial was closer to duluth and ER, and we were right. I think that at least one team should change sections, 2AA needs some more competition. <p>The curse lives on.....</p><i></i>

[Neutron 14]

06 we understand your not wanting Centennial in 3AA. We also understand why their not wanted in 7AA. Everyone understands. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p074.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... 14>Neutron 14</A> at: 3/7/05 4:50 pm<br></i>

[WBLBEARS06]

hell i dont care who leaves 3AA but someone has to go. Cent would be fine, and i thought they stood the best chance at leaving. <p>The curse lives on.....</p><i></i>

[Neutron 14]

O6 you know that sectional tournament game at the fairgrounds rocked. It was friggin fabulous. Why would you not want that experience to continue? <p></p><i></i>

[WBLBEARS06]

ya i agree that was awesome. But wouldnt you rather watch that with 18,063 other people at the X. A hill/wbl final is the same thing. Except for you because you are a cent fan. I would rather experience a game like that at the X. A game with two teams like that should be the State championship game not the section championship game. <p>The curse lives on.....</p><i></i>

[Neutron 14]

I'll take those games anywhere I can get them. Even at your beloved Hippodrome! <p></p><i></i>

[WBL04GRAD]

AHAHA, the Hipp! I agree those games are great...i will NEVER forget them. Even in the section semis last year when Hill beat us. Good game....i will try to get to as many as i can. GREAT STUFF <p></p><i></i>

[WBLBEARS06]

good god i hate that place. I holds like 2 people. Ya i agree that i would watch those games anywhere, but what better place than the X. <p>The curse lives on.....</p><i></i>

[Hillfan]

WBLBears06, must agree. A H-M/WBL final in state would be something to never forget. <br><br>So those are totally final section changes? I heard possibly they still have another meeting to do, although it could be very easily wrong. A few sections have been untouched, which is a joke! <p></p><i></i>

[nolookpassguy]

Sections 5AA/6AA teams geographically could be interchangeable. Same thing with sections 2AA/3AA. If things are going to be reviewed every two years or "competitive balance", then why not attempt to balance out those sections equally? <p></p><i></i>

[Lumpy21]

0809 - I think the logistical nightmare could be averted...you provided the solution...you have regionals. And, some discretion would need to be used for seeding (i.e. if you have 4 regions, you can match up the seeds geographically). I doubt it would get any worse than Roseau traveling to St. Cloud for the 8AA final every year.<br><br>I'll volunteer to serve on the selection committee! <p></p><i></i>

[East13]

I know the whole point in changing sections is to spread the talent out into different sections. That's why you don't do it, sections aren't supposed to have some good teams and then some bad teams. It is supposed to be how it is right now, seperated by region.<br><br>I also heard talk of having the top 2 teams from each section seeded so that there are teams seeded 1-16. Then they play 1 v 16, 2 v 15, 3 v 14, and so on. Then they would just randomly select who would play each other. This way, it would be closer to the top 8 teams in the state. I heard talk of this after the scores of the quarterfinal A games were like 8-2, 6-1, 5-3, and 9-2. This would eliminate the possibility of the not-so-good teams making it to state. I think this is the best idea for solving everyone's whining. A lot better than the 64 team Tier I and Tier II solution. <p></p><i></i>

[Penalty Shot]

Go to the MSHSL website and you will see the realighnment is already done. Andover and Elk River have been added to 7AA. Greenway is going down to A. The other big one is Wayzata will now go to the section with Maple Grove, Osseo etc... <p></p><i></i>

[GreenMachine13]

hey about Greenway opting down to class A um I think it is the opposite. Greenway used to op up they played in class AA they used to have a really strong program now they cant even have a jv team barely because there are no numbers its really sad. as a fan i went to alot of there games this year they had like three players for jv left when the third peroid would start. and the varsity this year lost to every AA team they played. They only won three games this year. its not just the athletic director its the coches and alot of other peoples decisions. we cant compete any more and its not like we are any where near the size of having to move up to AA we only have an enrollment of 314. <p></p><i></i>

[Lumpy21]

East 13 - Not a bad hybrid of the current section format and my suggested seeding format. However, it could result in the logistics nightmare that 0809 referred to. For example, this year you could have had a Rochester team (15 or 16 seed) playing Moorhead (1 or 2 seed) in the game to get to state. Where would that game be?<br><br>I like the dialogue, though...however you want to make it happen it would be nice to see the best teams squaring off in St. Paul at the end of the year. The current Section format doesn't allow that to happen. <p></p><i></i>

[East13]

That would probably be the only problem for these games, is where to play them. They could play them at a centralized location such as the Xcel or Mariucci just so the teams that win actually get to play at the Xcel. Oorrr... I think it would be better for the better seed to get that advantage and play at home. That way, it would be a pain for a team like Rochester to go to Moorhead, and if they whine about it, it's their fault that they aren't good enough to get a home playoff. Also, if a higher seed proved they were better, say a (example)Tartan maybe ranked 10 beating a (example) Elk River maybe being ranked 7, then they would prove they are better and earn their chance at playing in the State tournement, and not just beat the pushover team that they normally would play to get to the state tournament. (Like Moorhead beating Roseau or something like that) <p></p><i></i>

[postitstamp]

hill 2aa<br> <br>wbl 3aa<br><br>centenial ?<br><br>.....<br><br>......<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[NeedsMoreCowbell]

I'm sick of seeing your posts winner62, if you are going to make an arguement, provide substance instead of the whole "they suck" crap. i'm specifically talking about your earlier posts: <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>what the He** all those teams deserve to be in state<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>then you get crap teams in the state tourney such as rochester century elk river<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>those teams deserve to make state because they won 3 important games in a row. don't take them down, i thought every team at state this year made very respectable appearances, even the teams going 2 and out. Century played your 3aa team tough, and kept it close with Moorhead (thanks to Kangas). ER played two extremely exciting games with an underrated Tartan team and Bloomington Jeff, both one goal games. It's bull%*! for u to say that they or any other team this year was not deserving of being there. <br><br>That being said, i thought smart section alignments to balance it out would be to send Roseville back to 2aa, Jefferson back to 5aa, and you can debate what to do with ER and Centennial, whether keeping them where they are or sending one of them to 7aa. just my thoughts <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p074.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... Cowbell</A> at: 3/8/05 11:17 pm<br></i>

[MNPuckster27]

This topic is going to be the Dead Horse of 2005-2006<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... s/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>