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oldtimehockeyguy
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what's up with Moundsview boys hockey

Post by oldtimehockeyguy » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:20 pm

Any news about Moundsview boys hockey

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Post by thorhockey » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:27 pm

Is it good news or bad news ? don't leave us hangin'
IMO never been the same since Alt's departure for greener pastures

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Post by oldtimehockeyguy » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:34 pm

Alt is just one of many that have left. Wolters WBL, Hoeffel & McDonough 2 years ago. . Bostrum left early. Phillippi HM.

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Post by oldtimehockeyguy » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:37 pm

no special news, just saw that they have lost a bunch of OT and close games. Does this team have potential.

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Post by wiseguy » Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:29 pm

When did Alt leave for CDH? I thought he was always there? It looks like they are at the bottom of the SEC but have been in most of the games. Time will tell as the second have of the season is hear and they will be getting a second crack at these teams.

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Post by 1parent » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:11 pm

What will it take and how soon can this program be turned around?

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Post by mch » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:40 pm

wiseguy wrote:When did Alt leave for CDH? I thought he was always there? It looks like they are at the bottom of the SEC but have been in most of the games. Time will tell as the second have of the season is hear and they will be getting a second crack at these teams.
he has been at CDH since 9th grade (CDH is 9-12), but grew up playing for Moundsview youth association.

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Post by wbmd » Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:30 pm

A big 5-4 O.T. win over Roseville Saturday night.

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Post by Moose Jaw, SK » Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:02 pm

wbmd wrote:A big 5-4 O.T. win over Roseville Saturday night.
That's huge and could be a big boost for MV here at the end of the year and onto sections. It has been many many years since Mounds View last beat Roseville in hockey. Grant it is a down year for Roseville but all the same it shakes things up.

Also on Alt for those who didn't know his dad used to be an assistant coach with MV's football team while Mark was in middle school and all his friends went to Mounds View but some sort of fallout happened and Mark and his father went to CDH.
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Post by wallythebeerman » Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:14 pm

They are improving with each game. Might be a surprise toward the end.

Some real talented players, Elms, Bradley, Goldsmith.

Some hard luck between the pipes. Hard to replace a Civello.

They need a bit more bench inspiration.

They come to play though, as they should.

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Post by hartyy56 » Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:44 pm

1parent wrote:What will it take and how soon can this program be turned around?
Many players are down about the coach. All i've heard was negative reviews of him from almost every player. The team is mostly juniors, and most will quit after this year only because of coach schwartzbauer. I talk to ian goldsmith often and he said he has played on the 4 worst years of mv hockey. It will take a long time for the program to pick up again.

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Post by mustangman » Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:23 am

The program should be much better. I know people bash on the coach but ultimately it is the players who have to answer the bell.

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Post by mustangman » Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:28 am

By the way, we beat roseville twice while I was playing :lol: 2003 and 2004

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Post by oldtimehockeyguy » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:13 pm

hartyy56 wrote:
1parent wrote:What will it take and how soon can this program be turned around?
Many players are down about the coach. All i've heard was negative reviews of him from almost every player. The team is mostly juniors, and most will quit after this year only because of coach schwartzbauer. I talk to ian goldsmith often and he said he has played on the 4 worst years of mv hockey. It will take a long time for the program to pick up again.
I have also talked to a few players and parents and things seem to be in bad shape. No one is having fun mainly do to bad comunication with no leadership from coaching. Sounds like things are going to become a bigger mess shortly.

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Post by oldtimehockeyguy » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:16 pm

hartyy56 wrote:
1parent wrote:What will it take and how soon can this program be turned around?
Many players are down about the coach. All i've heard was negative reviews of him from almost every player. The team is mostly juniors, and most will quit after this year only because of coach schwartzbauer. I talk to ian goldsmith often and he said he has played on the 4 worst years of mv hockey. It will take a long time for the program to pick up again.
one concern it sounds like is that the parents and players are concerned about the coaching messing up next year with a potentially all Senior team.

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Post by wallythebeerman » Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:00 pm

I believe that someone has to inform the AD at MV that his coaching experiment isn't working. Present coach is a Class guy, but out of his league. Not cut out to coach at this level. No lynch mobs like in '04, just a simple non-renewal of contract and try to improve with the next coach.
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Post by prospector » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:32 pm

i do agree that there is a coaching issue at MV javascript:emoticon(':cry:').Basicly the coach isnt getting through to the players (they aren't buying what he's selling) he appears to be content to have a close game.. more than once this season he has had a 1 goal game and (when the oppertunity presented) he did not attempt to pull the goalie to tie... javascript:emoticon(':!:')he has players doing 2min,,,3min and sometimes 4 min shifts.. no player at any level can perform doing this. so even given better talent coaching decisions would still be an issue.. i understand his talent might not be the best but he needs to make better decisions with what he does have.

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mv problems

Post by oldtimehockeyguy » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:12 pm

I do hope the situation at MV does not get ugly. From what I hear the coach should just move on. The amazing thing that I have heard is that the problems are not related to wins or loses. I have seen a couple games and their talent is Ok. elms looks good and Bradly is very creative. Good junior class with a solid Junior goalie.
I saw that they just lost to FL 5-2.

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Post by prospector » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:50 pm

i hear they didnt play the greatest the goalie (sophomore) gave up a couple rebounds.. the team can play better. lets see if they rebound with the other goalie now ....they need to score more (but doesnt everyone)

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Post by 1parent » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:51 pm

He might have them turned around by the end and have everyone shocked.

It looks like they are tied for 4th in the SEC for scoring which isn't too bad.

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Post by prospector » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:06 pm

its gonna take more than just the goalie the players are gonna have to play beyond the coaching to salvage the season there

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Post by blanco oso » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:58 pm

idk but theyre going to get owned by wbl again tomorrow
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Post by youngblood08 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:05 am

Sorry but if you keep chasing coaches away, the end result is even worse coaches coming in. Who in thier right mind would want this job or WBL for that matter? All you guys do is bash the coaches year in and year out, give it a rest. You play in a tough conference and are pretty average talent wise, What are you expecting? Your youth teams are at the bottom of D2 every year? Where are you going to get better players from?

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Post by ImissMYhockey » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:19 am

youngblood08 wrote:Sorry but if you keep chasing coaches away, the end result is even worse coaches coming in. Who in thier right mind would want this job or WBL for that matter? All you guys do is bash the coaches year in and year out, give it a rest. You play in a tough conference and are pretty average talent wise, What are you expecting? Your youth teams are at the bottom of D2 every year? Where are you going to get better players from?
Very good post. I would like to say that it is funny how the people that got Nitti out didn't stay around for long, only a few did. I give credit to schwartzbauer for jumping into a beehive when he did and remember that MV made it to the colesium for the first time in a long time last year. Is he the greatest coach, no...but he is doing the best he can, yes obviously. Not everyone is going to be happy with the coaching. Its impossible to do. If you think you could do it better then hop in there and do it and dont whine about it on here. Let the kids play, they only get this opportunity once and they don't need to hear from parents about how bad the coaching is.
Just my two cents.

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Post by 1parent » Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:17 am

youngblood08 wrote:Sorry but if you keep chasing coaches away, the end result is even worse coaches coming in. Who in thier right mind would want this job or WBL for that matter? All you guys do is bash the coaches year in and year out, give it a rest. You play in a tough conference and are pretty average talent wise, What are you expecting? Your youth teams are at the bottom of D2 every year? Where are you going to get better players from?
Actually if I recall a couple of years back they sat at the top of D2 for bantams?

But I do agree let the guy do his job and let the kids play the game without cutting them after every game.

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