Mahtomedi (20-6-2) @ Cathedral (25-2-1) 3-11-09

hockeyOAF · Post by **hockeyOAF** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:37 am

I picked SCC 5-2 over Htown in the section finals, sorry I under estimated the D.
This one is 4-1 SCC.
Wanna see a re-match with Warroad, if they can get past awesome Hutch.
SCC also 4-2 over Warroad.

HasNoMoves · Post by **HasNoMoves** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:54 am

hockeyOAF wrote:I picked SCC 5-2 over Htown in the section finals, sorry I under estimated the D.
This one is 4-1 SCC.
Wanna see a re-match with Warroad, if they can get past awesome Hutch.
SCC also 4-2 over Warroad.

good call, i would agree...will be tough for ANY team to beat SCC this week because of their speed and surperior defense. I am picking SCC to win it all.

FlyerFan12 · Post by **FlyerFan12** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:40 pm

Mahtomedi 3
SCC 2

haas32 · Post by **haas32** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:07 pm

scc will probably go down in quarter finals! Saw them play in LF, not impressed!

SCC2009 · Post by **SCC2009** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:13 pm

haas32 wrote:scc will probably go down in quarter finals! Saw them play in LF, not impressed!

yeah, Lf was really impressive getting taken into OT by a team in the section final that woudl not have been seeded at state...LF is overrated!

thewanderer103 · Post by **thewanderer103** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:14 pm

So you saw them play 3 months ago? Interesting analysis.

haas32 · Post by **haas32** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:11 pm

HasNoMoves wrote:yes, interesting how its better to be the 3 seed than the 2 seed....4 seed will have to contend with LF, but i think they are over rated and willnot win state now that they have to play 2 good teams back to back to win a championship

to bad they already beat scc one time and you probably wont make it to the finals to get the shot at beating them!

haas32 · Post by **haas32** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:21 pm

SCC2009 wrote:
haas32 wrote:scc will probably go down in quarter finals! Saw them play in LF, not impressed!
yeah, Lf was really impressive getting taken into OT by a team in the section final that woudl not have been seeded at state...LF is overrated!

Alex would have possibly won the state A title, that's how good they can be! Anyone that thought LF was lucky that night is a joker cause alex is a legit top 10 in class A. Everyone knew it was going to be a close game! If LF lost Alex would be a great Rep from 6A!

USHLTender · Post by **USHLTender** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:03 am

Theres no way Alex would have even had a chance at winning the class a title, they are a decent team, but thats it.

2pipesnin · Post by **2pipesnin** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:32 am

USHL (tender I doubt) Alex is a very good team. They could have easily beat LF if they would have capitalized on a few missed opportunities. Alex had the puck behind Sperl 3 times and were not able to poke it in in the 3rd period. Alex had CHS down by two goals this year and CHS tied it up with less them two mns to play to take it into over time and won. LF's took CHS into overtime this year and won. Sometimes it's the best team "that day" that wins the game, no necessarily the best team. Alex is a very quick team and would have done fine at the Excel.

SCC2009 · Post by **SCC2009** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:04 am

2pipesnin wrote:USHL (tender I doubt) Alex is a very good team. They could have easily beat LF if they would have capitalized on a few missed opportunities. Alex had the puck behind Sperl 3 times and were not able to poke it in in the 3rd period. Alex had CHS down by two goals this year and CHS tied it up with less them two mns to play to take it into over time and won. LF's took CHS into overtime this year and won. Sometimes it's the best team "that day" that wins the game, no necessarily the best team. Alex is a very quick team and would have done fine at the Excel.

Yes, Alex would have done just fine in the state tourney, they were a quick team, I was disspointed they didn't capitalize against LF because they certainly outplayed them in the 3rd period and LF was very fortunate to come away with a win. LF will have their hands full, I would love to see them against SCC in the championship, but i don't see LF getting past both virginia and Breck should breck also win...there will be 1 loss in LF's first two games at the X.

MNHockeyDieHard · Post by **MNHockeyDieHard** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:15 am

Kinda funny how this thread got switched from talking about one game to ragging on LF. By the way, I think people forget how well LF played STA in last year's tourney. I thought they gave STA their toughest game. I think LF is a better team this year. They will be a tough out for anybody and are not overrated.

Congratulations to Maht for taking down STA but they definitely got a tough draw. This game is a great way to start off the tourney.

SCC 3
Maht 2

dherman8 · Post by **dherman8** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:51 am

warriors41 wrote:If Mahtomedis goalie plays like he did against STA they will win.

True but I think this is where it ends. I wanna see Mahtomedi win but I believe they're defense won't hold up. They have been playing well as of late but looking through their schedule it is littered with four goal games. With their first time at the X and an opponent like this they should get handled, but SCC doesn't have an overly impressive offense which should make this close. I think SCC wins, but go Mahtomedi.

adamp1914 · Post by **adamp1914** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:36 pm

I've filled out my bracket, and in the first round, I only have one seeded team losing in class A. This is the game I've chosen that to happen in. Mahtomedi has tons of momentum coming in with a huge win over STA. This is going to be one of the better games in the tournament.

Too bad they don't seed all 8 teams.. seeding 4 with a random draw is kinda strange, because as long as you get seeded, it doesn't matter at all if your first or fourth.

hockeyOAF · Post by **hockeyOAF** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:30 pm

SCC has no offense huh?
Well granted when they are up and winning the coach is classy and plays everyone, even if that means giving up some goals and not scoring as many. Here are the regulart season goals for and against for all the teams in the A tourney. Based on this Mahtomedi is in trouble, but I AM smarter than to believe these stats are anything more than numbers, but LF's and others DO run their scores up a bit more than some teams. The stats wouls tell me all the teams are well matched with the exceptions of Hutch, and yes Mahtomedi.

goals for goals against Goal differential
SCC 127 38 89
LFALLS 165 38 127
Breck 147 34 113
Mahtomedi 117 75 42
Warroad 128 40 88
Lourdes 138 52 86
Virginia 142 50 92
Hutchinson 110 67 43

Two teams stand out in goal differential Breck and LFalls (run it up)
Two other teams also standout Hutch and Mahtomedi
The other 4 are bunched up, make oof it what you want, these are the facts...
I'll take SCC over Mahtomedi, Mahtomedi beats Hutch in the consolation semis, then loses the consolation championship game.

soaker12 · Post by **soaker12** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:26 pm

hockeyOAF wrote:SCC has no offense huh?
Well granted when they are up and winning the coach is classy and plays everyone, even if that means giving up some goals and not scoring as many. Here are the regulart season goals for and against for all the teams in the A tourney. Based on this Mahtomedi is in trouble, but I AM smarter than to believe these stats are anything more than numbers, but LF's and others DO run their scores up a bit more than some teams. The stats wouls tell me all the teams are well matched with the exceptions of Hutch, and yes Mahtomedi.

goals for goals against Goal differential
SCC 127 38 89
LFALLS 165 38 127
Breck 147 34 113
Mahtomedi 117 75 42
Warroad 128 40 88
Lourdes 138 52 86
Virginia 142 50 92
Hutchinson 110 67 43

Two teams stand out in goal differential Breck and LFalls (run it up)
Two other teams also standout Hutch and Mahtomedi
The other 4 are bunched up, make oof it what you want, these are the facts...
I'll take SCC over Mahtomedi, Mahtomedi beats Hutch in the consolation semis, then loses the consolation championship game.

Mahtomedi's schedule is also littered with opponents like St. Thomas Academy, Breck, Hill Murray, Maple Grove etc etc, with victories over every one of those teams. Breck's goal differential is much better than Mahtomedi, yet Maht won 3 - 1. Valid argument of course, but the other teams besides perhaps Breck and maybe Virginia didn't face the amount of talent Mahtomedi did on a weekly basis.

darkdemon · Post by **darkdemon** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:31 pm

theblandyman wrote:
I have a girlfriend...she lets me get away with a lot.

Saw 12 high school games (11 in person, one on MyFoxHockey) between Friday Feb. 27th and Yesterday...

I think Cathedral is the better team but Mahtomedi is a very quick club that creates a lot of chances with their speed. It's hard to know how a teams offense will do as most solid offenses (Warroad, Hermantown, etc..) definitely have been limited by SCC's D.

IMO, Mahtomedi is the best unranked team from what I've seen...

How many of those games were you getting paid to watch blandy?

theblandyman · Post by **theblandyman** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:59 pm

darkdemon wrote:
theblandyman wrote:
I have a girlfriend...she lets me get away with a lot.

Saw 12 high school games (11 in person, one on MyFoxHockey) between Friday Feb. 27th and Yesterday...

I think Cathedral is the better team but Mahtomedi is a very quick club that creates a lot of chances with their speed. It's hard to know how a teams offense will do as most solid offenses (Warroad, Hermantown, etc..) definitely have been limited by SCC's D.

IMO, Mahtomedi is the best unranked team from what I've seen...
How many of those games were you getting paid to watch blandy?

Goose egg!

DotaDangler · Post by **DotaDangler** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:15 pm

After seeing the Section final between Mahtomedi and STA, I'm surprised no one has mentioned just how much bigger of a team Maht was than STA. It looked like they just outmuscled them for much of the game. How will Cathedral compare. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

wheels · Post by **wheels** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:02 pm

What kind of team depth does SCC have. Do they have 3 good lines?

What kind of game do they play?

USHLTender · Post by **USHLTender** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:44 pm

2pipesnin wrote:USHL (tender I doubt) Alex is a very good team. They could have easily beat LF if they would have capitalized on a few missed opportunities. Alex had the puck behind Sperl 3 times and were not able to poke it in in the 3rd period. Alex had CHS down by two goals this year and CHS tied it up with less them two mns to play to take it into over time and won. LF's took CHS into overtime this year and won. Sometimes it's the best team "that day" that wins the game, no necessarily the best team. Alex is a very quick team and would have done fine at the Excel.

Wow thank you for your oh so brilliant observations. As you will see I wrote that Alex is a good team. I guess Little Falls just had a "good day" x 3 against them. I actually am not a Little Falls fan or an Alex Fan, but your right, Alex got screwed, they would have easily ran the table down at the X, I mean Breck would have been a cupcake game for your Cardinals.

hockeyOAF · Post by **hockeyOAF** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:12 am

Mahtomedi outmuscled STA? Must have watched a different game. This was like a no contact Squirt game by SCC's standards. The Zeph's will get manhandled by SCC's big/physical D. SCC has 2 outstanding lines and a very good 3rd line that can score. The D has 4 solid guys that can really play and the #5 D is huge and plays smart. #6 D man can go offense or D, he'll be a top D next year. It should be an interesting game.

2pipesnin · Post by **2pipesnin** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:41 am

USHL for the record, I am not a Alex fan nor a FL's fan. I was just at the game watching a hockey game. It was obvious that Alex had a few more good scoring chances then LF. When you get down to the X anything can happen. There will be no cupcake games for any team. Except maybe Warroad first round.

Good day!

adamp1914 · Post by **adamp1914** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:21 am

dangler.

I haven't seen SCC play this year, but from what I understand, they are a big and strong team that plays extremely physical and probably has one of the better defensive units in the tournament.

Their defense will do fine against Mahtomedi, but Mahtomedi's defense will also do fine against SCC's offense. I expect this to be a low scoring, very close game.

Soaker beat me to the punch with referencing the team's schedules when looking at goal differential. That stat doesn't meant much. Breck outscored conference opponents by what, 117 - 10? They play teams like providence, SPA, Minnehaha, St. Paul Saints, Blake (who wasn't very good this year). That stat doesn't say that much.

Mahtomedi played Breck, Hill Murray, St. Thomas, etc.

drop the puck · Post by **drop the puck** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:47 am

It was Mahtomedi's goalie that put them in the state tournament. He has allowed 5 goals in the past 5 games and recorded 48 saves in the Section Final game against STA. The only goal he gave up that night was largely the coach's fault. A Maht player was exiting the penalty box and skated to the bench adding an additional 5 seconds to the STA powerplay. The goal was set up by the cadet defenseman that was just 10 steps away from the Maht player leaving the box? The goalie and the players on the ice getting the (-) can thank coach for that decision.

I believe the goalie is a Mahtomedi kid who played his freshman year at Hill and then returned to Mahtomedi High School last year.

I watched the first two periods before running off to the Hill-Stillwater AA section final game and all I can say is STA was NOT out played nor out muscled. The cadet forwards can put shots on net from anywhere inside the blueline.

If the Maht goalie continues on this pace if does not matter much what SCC does as long as Maht forwards can put one or two in the net.

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