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Section 4AA
As of today, this is how I see things.
1). Hill-Murray
2). White Bear
3). Stillwater
4). Tartan
5). N. St. Paul
6). Moundsview
7). Roseville
8 ). St. Paul Como
9). St. Paul Saints
1). Hill-Murray
2). White Bear
3). Stillwater
4). Tartan
5). N. St. Paul
6). Moundsview
7). Roseville
8 ). St. Paul Como
9). St. Paul Saints
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I would flip flop Stillwater at 2, for NOW, with WBL, but I am not totally sold Tartan isn't ahead of WBL....
In some common opponents, WBL was throttled by St. Thomas and Tartan lost 7-5 and 5-2. tartan lost to H-M 3-0, while WBL lost 5-0 and 4-3. Both beat Rochester Century, and a tie to MV for Tartan and a loss for WBL. Tartan is 10-6-1, and the fact that WBL had players suspended is even more reason not to reward them ahead of Tartan.
So, at best, H-M, Stillwater, Tartan, WBL and MV.......
In some common opponents, WBL was throttled by St. Thomas and Tartan lost 7-5 and 5-2. tartan lost to H-M 3-0, while WBL lost 5-0 and 4-3. Both beat Rochester Century, and a tie to MV for Tartan and a loss for WBL. Tartan is 10-6-1, and the fact that WBL had players suspended is even more reason not to reward them ahead of Tartan.
So, at best, H-M, Stillwater, Tartan, WBL and MV.......
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Sec conference game white bear beats stilly 4 2, section semis stilly beats white bear 3 1, section finals the pride of all the wannabe hockey fans and spectators(pioneers) go down 5 3 to the ponies of stillwater, state tourney birth for the ponies(a first) and the enrollement at hm drops by 1 or 2 a year for the foreseeable future
GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.Goldfishdude wrote:I would flip flop Stillwater at 2, for NOW, with WBL, but I am not totally sold Tartan isn't ahead of WBL....
In some common opponents, WBL was throttled by St. Thomas and Tartan lost 7-5 and 5-2. tartan lost to H-M 3-0, while WBL lost 5-0 and 4-3. Both beat Rochester Century, and a tie to MV for Tartan and a loss for WBL. Tartan is 10-6-1, and the fact that WBL had players suspended is even more reason not to reward them ahead of Tartan.
So, at best, H-M, Stillwater, Tartan, WBL and MV.......
Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.
Yeah, cuz the SW vs HM Dbl-OT Section Final last yr was a real yawnerBodyShots wrote:GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.Goldfishdude wrote:I would flip flop Stillwater at 2, for NOW, with WBL, but I am not totally sold Tartan isn't ahead of WBL....
In some common opponents, WBL was throttled by St. Thomas and Tartan lost 7-5 and 5-2. tartan lost to H-M 3-0, while WBL lost 5-0 and 4-3. Both beat Rochester Century, and a tie to MV for Tartan and a loss for WBL. Tartan is 10-6-1, and the fact that WBL had players suspended is even more reason not to reward them ahead of Tartan.
So, at best, H-M, Stillwater, Tartan, WBL and MV.......
Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.
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No. 3 Hill-Murray (89. 4 0 0 16 1 1 5.3 1.6 Won 9
No. 22 Stillwater Area (61.4) 4 1 0 9 7 2 3.8 2.9 None
No. 25 White Bear Lake (60.7) 2 3 0 10 7 1 3.6 3.3 Won 1
No. 27 Tartan (57.4) 1 1 1 10 6 1 3.9 2.8 Lost 1
No. 36 North St. Paul (49.6) 2 2 0 10 7 0 5.1 3.0 Lost 1
No. 38 Mounds View (48.5) 2 2 1 8 8 2 3.3 3.0 Won 1
No. 44 Roseville (43.6) 1 5 0 5 12 1 2.2 3.0 Won 1
No. 66 St. Paul Como Park (28.9) 1 1 0 5 10 1 2.8 4.9 Lost 3
No. 70 St. Paul Saints (16.
This is from Mn-scores.net. strength of schedule and opponents.
That WBL/Stillwater game will be huge. I see the winner at #2 andd loser at #4 due to NSP weaker schedule. Also big factor NSP/MV to finish the season for both.
No. 22 Stillwater Area (61.4) 4 1 0 9 7 2 3.8 2.9 None
No. 25 White Bear Lake (60.7) 2 3 0 10 7 1 3.6 3.3 Won 1
No. 27 Tartan (57.4) 1 1 1 10 6 1 3.9 2.8 Lost 1
No. 36 North St. Paul (49.6) 2 2 0 10 7 0 5.1 3.0 Lost 1
No. 38 Mounds View (48.5) 2 2 1 8 8 2 3.3 3.0 Won 1
No. 44 Roseville (43.6) 1 5 0 5 12 1 2.2 3.0 Won 1
No. 66 St. Paul Como Park (28.9) 1 1 0 5 10 1 2.8 4.9 Lost 3
No. 70 St. Paul Saints (16.
This is from Mn-scores.net. strength of schedule and opponents.
That WBL/Stillwater game will be huge. I see the winner at #2 andd loser at #4 due to NSP weaker schedule. Also big factor NSP/MV to finish the season for both.
I couldn't agree more!!!Spooge wrote:Yeah, cuz the SW vs HM Dbl-OT Section Final last yr was a real yawnerBodyShots wrote:GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.Goldfishdude wrote:I would flip flop Stillwater at 2, for NOW, with WBL, but I am not totally sold Tartan isn't ahead of WBL....
In some common opponents, WBL was throttled by St. Thomas and Tartan lost 7-5 and 5-2. tartan lost to H-M 3-0, while WBL lost 5-0 and 4-3. Both beat Rochester Century, and a tie to MV for Tartan and a loss for WBL. Tartan is 10-6-1, and the fact that WBL had players suspended is even more reason not to reward them ahead of Tartan.
So, at best, H-M, Stillwater, Tartan, WBL and MV.......
Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.
When is the meeting to determine where the teams are seeded? I believe the seedings last year were determined the Saturday morning before NSP and Moundsview played their last game of the season. The results of NSP vs Moundsview won't matter if that is the case again this year.youngblood08 wrote:No. 3 Hill-Murray (89. 4 0 0 16 1 1 5.3 1.6 Won 9
No. 22 Stillwater Area (61.4) 4 1 0 9 7 2 3.8 2.9 None
No. 25 White Bear Lake (60.7) 2 3 0 10 7 1 3.6 3.3 Won 1
No. 27 Tartan (57.4) 1 1 1 10 6 1 3.9 2.8 Lost 1
No. 36 North St. Paul (49.6) 2 2 0 10 7 0 5.1 3.0 Lost 1
No. 38 Mounds View (48.5) 2 2 1 8 8 2 3.3 3.0 Won 1
No. 44 Roseville (43.6) 1 5 0 5 12 1 2.2 3.0 Won 1
No. 66 St. Paul Como Park (28.9) 1 1 0 5 10 1 2.8 4.9 Lost 3
No. 70 St. Paul Saints (16.
This is from Mn-scores.net. strength of schedule and opponents.
That WBL/Stillwater game will be huge. I see the winner at #2 andd loser at #4 due to NSP weaker schedule. Also big factor NSP/MV to finish the season for both.
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I based my statement, because, according to Hockey Hub, Stillwater is 7-3-2 with 16 pts and WBL is 7-3-1 with 15 pts. WBL has a game in hand. I realize I am a journalism major, and not a math major, but last I checked, 16 pts is more than 15 points. I don't need to work in a bank to figure that out!!!BodyShots wrote:GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.Goldfishdude wrote:I would flip flop Stillwater at 2, for NOW, with WBL, but I am not totally sold Tartan isn't ahead of WBL....
In some common opponents, WBL was throttled by St. Thomas and Tartan lost 7-5 and 5-2. tartan lost to H-M 3-0, while WBL lost 5-0 and 4-3. Both beat Rochester Century, and a tie to MV for Tartan and a loss for WBL. Tartan is 10-6-1, and the fact that WBL had players suspended is even more reason not to reward them ahead of Tartan.
So, at best, H-M, Stillwater, Tartan, WBL and MV.......
Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.
And Youngblood supports my rationale with the current rankings. They're close, no question.
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Now I know why I'm not taking a drink of water or Propel when I read these. I'd have "Propelled" water on my computer screen.Goldfishdude wrote:I based my statement, because, according to Hockey Hub, Stillwater is 7-3-2 with 16 pts and WBL is 7-3-1 with 15 pts. WBL has a game in hand. I realize I am a journalism major, and not a math major, but last I checked, 16 pts is more than 15 points. I don't need to work in a bank to figure that out!!!BodyShots wrote:GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.Goldfishdude wrote:I would flip flop Stillwater at 2, for NOW, with WBL, but I am not totally sold Tartan isn't ahead of WBL....
In some common opponents, WBL was throttled by St. Thomas and Tartan lost 7-5 and 5-2. tartan lost to H-M 3-0, while WBL lost 5-0 and 4-3. Both beat Rochester Century, and a tie to MV for Tartan and a loss for WBL. Tartan is 10-6-1, and the fact that WBL had players suspended is even more reason not to reward them ahead of Tartan.
So, at best, H-M, Stillwater, Tartan, WBL and MV.......
Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.
And Youngblood supports my rationale with the current rankings. They're close, no question.
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Why do I sense a hint of bitterness from this statement?stilly5hm3 wrote:Sec conference game white bear beats stilly 4 2, section semis stilly beats white bear 3 1, section finals the pride of all the wannabe hockey fans and spectators(pioneers) go down 5 3 to the ponies of stillwater, state tourney birth for the ponies(a first) and the enrollement at hm drops by 1 or 2 a year for the foreseeable future
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Gophs..... not the answer I was looking for, but... I guess I should commend you on being politically correct for not taking my bait!!mngophs04 wrote:Let's just say it didn't help them any.Goldfishdude wrote:Hmmmm..... not sure what you're referring to gophs!!! Maybe you might need to remind some of us!!!!mngophs04 wrote:Hey, do these seedings even matter? You know what happened to the #1 seed last year...
Suburban East Conference StandingsGoldfishdude wrote:I based my statement, because, according to Hockey Hub, Stillwater is 7-3-2 with 16 pts and WBL is 7-3-1 with 15 pts. WBL has a game in hand. I realize I am a journalism major, and not a math major, but last I checked, 16 pts is more than 15 points. I don't need to work in a bank to figure that out!!!BodyShots wrote:GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.Goldfishdude wrote:I would flip flop Stillwater at 2, for NOW, with WBL, but I am not totally sold Tartan isn't ahead of WBL....
In some common opponents, WBL was throttled by St. Thomas and Tartan lost 7-5 and 5-2. tartan lost to H-M 3-0, while WBL lost 5-0 and 4-3. Both beat Rochester Century, and a tie to MV for Tartan and a loss for WBL. Tartan is 10-6-1, and the fact that WBL had players suspended is even more reason not to reward them ahead of Tartan.
So, at best, H-M, Stillwater, Tartan, WBL and MV.......
Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.
And Youngblood supports my rationale with the current rankings. They're close, no question.
Team (QRF) Conf. Overall For Agst Streak
W L T W L T AVG AVG
Woodbury 9 1 2 11 6 2 3.7 2.9 None
Cretin-Derham Hall 9 3 0 13 6 0 3.5 2.7 Won 3
White Bear Lake 7 3 1 10 7 1 3.6 3.3 Won 1
Forest Lake 7 3 2 10 5 2 3.5 2.3 Lost 2
Stillwater Area 7 3 2 9 7 2 3.8 2.9 None
Mounds View 5 7 0 8 8 2 3.3 3.0 Won 1
Hastings 4 7 1 7 10 1 2.9 4.3 Lost 1
Roseville 3 8 1 5 12 1 2.2 3.0 Won 1
Park of Cottage Grove 3 8 1 4 13 1 2.7 4.8 Lost 4
East Ridge 1 12 0 3 15 1 2.0 4.9 Lost 4
And you can take that to the bank!
East Ridge hasn't won any conference games. Their win against Forest Lake was in a tournament.BodyShots wrote:Suburban East Conference StandingsGoldfishdude wrote:I based my statement, because, according to Hockey Hub, Stillwater is 7-3-2 with 16 pts and WBL is 7-3-1 with 15 pts. WBL has a game in hand. I realize I am a journalism major, and not a math major, but last I checked, 16 pts is more than 15 points. I don't need to work in a bank to figure that out!!!BodyShots wrote: GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.
Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.
And Youngblood supports my rationale with the current rankings. They're close, no question.
Team (QRF) Conf. Overall For Agst Streak
W L T W L T AVG AVG
Woodbury 9 1 2 11 6 2 3.7 2.9 None
Cretin-Derham Hall 9 3 0 13 6 0 3.5 2.7 Won 3
White Bear Lake 7 3 1 10 7 1 3.6 3.3 Won 1
Forest Lake 7 3 2 10 5 2 3.5 2.3 Lost 2
Stillwater Area 7 3 2 9 7 2 3.8 2.9 None
Mounds View 5 7 0 8 8 2 3.3 3.0 Won 1
Hastings 4 7 1 7 10 1 2.9 4.3 Lost 1
Roseville 3 8 1 5 12 1 2.2 3.0 Won 1
Park of Cottage Grove 3 8 1 4 13 1 2.7 4.8 Lost 4
East Ridge 1 12 0 3 15 1 2.0 4.9 Lost 4
And you can take that to the bank!
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Body... I apologize.. I was confusing THIS thread with the thread about Stillwater and CDH being the favorties for the SEC.BodyShots wrote:Suburban East Conference StandingsGoldfishdude wrote:I based my statement, because, according to Hockey Hub, Stillwater is 7-3-2 with 16 pts and WBL is 7-3-1 with 15 pts. WBL has a game in hand. I realize I am a journalism major, and not a math major, but last I checked, 16 pts is more than 15 points. I don't need to work in a bank to figure that out!!!BodyShots wrote: GFD, you can't put Still ahead of the Bears at this point in time. WBL is ahead of them in the standings, and they beat them head to head.
Now the Bears just need to make sure they get seeded #2 or #3. We don't want HM vs WBL in a semi-final game again like last year. It makes the final almost anti-climatic.
And Youngblood supports my rationale with the current rankings. They're close, no question.
Team (QRF) Conf. Overall For Agst Streak
W L T W L T AVG AVG
Woodbury 9 1 2 11 6 2 3.7 2.9 None
Cretin-Derham Hall 9 3 0 13 6 0 3.5 2.7 Won 3
White Bear Lake 7 3 1 10 7 1 3.6 3.3 Won 1
Forest Lake 7 3 2 10 5 2 3.5 2.3 Lost 2
Stillwater Area 7 3 2 9 7 2 3.8 2.9 None
Mounds View 5 7 0 8 8 2 3.3 3.0 Won 1
Hastings 4 7 1 7 10 1 2.9 4.3 Lost 1
Roseville 3 8 1 5 12 1 2.2 3.0 Won 1
Park of Cottage Grove 3 8 1 4 13 1 2.7 4.8 Lost 4
East Ridge 1 12 0 3 15 1 2.0 4.9 Lost 4
And you can take that to the bank!
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22556
I was correct about the conference standings, but you are correct with the overall standings. However, I still seed Stillwater over WBL, because that's my opinion, and Stillwater is my favorite SEC team.
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I think things are starting to solidify more after last night's games.
1). HM
2). WB
3). Tartan
4). Still
5). NSP
6). MV
7). Rose
8 ). Como
9). Saints
The only real potential movement could be Tartan & Stillwater. Those two could flip flop depending how they finish. Obviously, Tartan has the tougher schedule, but right now they are the higher seed and have a slight buffer. How this plays out is significant because of the first round match up with NSP....you definately don't wanna go down that path. The semi match up with either HM or WB shouldn't matter as I don't see a whole lot of difference between these two right now. WB is playing much better and HM is solid, but hasn't progressed as much as WB has. Should be interesting....as usual.
1). HM
2). WB
3). Tartan
4). Still
5). NSP
6). MV
7). Rose
8 ). Como
9). Saints
The only real potential movement could be Tartan & Stillwater. Those two could flip flop depending how they finish. Obviously, Tartan has the tougher schedule, but right now they are the higher seed and have a slight buffer. How this plays out is significant because of the first round match up with NSP....you definately don't wanna go down that path. The semi match up with either HM or WB shouldn't matter as I don't see a whole lot of difference between these two right now. WB is playing much better and HM is solid, but hasn't progressed as much as WB has. Should be interesting....as usual.