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I agree. Lumping LVS in with the other 1AA teams is a mistake.HomeBarkingDog wrote:YOu can argue that 1aa (Lakeville South) is better than Roseau and either AV or Woodbury...
to be honest...with the firepower LVS has..if Im HM, Edina or whoever..Id rather play AV or Roseau than LVS right away
I'd go
1. Tonka
2. Edina
3. Hill
-I understand why some might give Hill the 2-seed, but I'm just not quite as impressed with them. But as others have noted, 2 vs. 3 means little.
4. Blaine
Next in line:
7AA champion
Maple Grove, if they upset Blaine
LVS
Roseau
3AA champion
WBL, if they upset Hill
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couldnt have seeded them better myselfkarl(east) wrote:I agree. Lumping LVS in with the other 1AA teams is a mistake.HomeBarkingDog wrote:YOu can argue that 1aa (Lakeville South) is better than Roseau and either AV or Woodbury...
to be honest...with the firepower LVS has..if Im HM, Edina or whoever..Id rather play AV or Roseau than LVS right away
I'd go
1. Tonka
2. Edina
3. Hill
-I understand why some might give Hill the 2-seed, but I'm just not quite as impressed with them. But as others have noted, 2 vs. 3 means little.
4. Blaine
Next in line:
7AA champion
Maple Grove, if they upset Blaine
LVS
Roseau
3AA champion
WBL, if they upset Hill
Agreed 100%
1-Minnetonka
2-Edina
Those two are set no matter what happens
If Hill Murray wins then they're 3, WBL won't be seeded.
If Blaine wins then they're 3 or 4, MG won't be seeded.
If either Hill or Blaine lose East is seeded 4, 3 if they both lose.
Roseau could be seeded 4 if both Hill and Blaine lose
Apple Valley and whichever Lakeville school wins won't get seeded, though if both Blaine and Hill lose and South wins South could sneak into the 4 seed.
2-Edina
Those two are set no matter what happens
If Hill Murray wins then they're 3, WBL won't be seeded.
If Blaine wins then they're 3 or 4, MG won't be seeded.
If either Hill or Blaine lose East is seeded 4, 3 if they both lose.
Roseau could be seeded 4 if both Hill and Blaine lose
Apple Valley and whichever Lakeville school wins won't get seeded, though if both Blaine and Hill lose and South wins South could sneak into the 4 seed.
BBB...Doesn't the HS Hockey Board seed the top 4 and draw the next 4 out of a hat? If so, then the 1AA winner could play any of the top 4 seeds. Right?BBB wrote:Rank the top 694/494 teams 1-4 and let everyone else try to play spoiler.
If Blaine and Hill win I don't think there will be any discussion of having any outstate teams seeded. I would rank em:
1)Tonka
2) Hill
3)Edina (who beat blaine twice)
4)Blaine
I guess whoever draws 1AA really gets the #1 seed
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Correct.defensezone wrote:BBB...Doesn't the HS Hockey Board seed the top 4 and draw the next 4 out of a hat? Is so, then the 1AA winner could play any of the top 4 seeds. Right?BBB wrote:Rank the top 694/494 teams 1-4 and let everyone else try to play spoiler.
If Blaine and Hill win I don't think there will be any discussion of having any outstate teams seeded. I would rank em:
1)Tonka
2) Hill
3)Edina (who beat blaine twice)
4)Blaine
I guess whoever draws 1AA really gets the #1 seed
yes he's saying since there soo weak whatever seeded teams plays them really has the #1 seed but i think 3aa is just as bad (if not worse)defensezone wrote:BBB...Doesn't the HS Hockey Board seed the top 4 and draw the next 4 out of a hat? Is so, then the 1AA winner could play any of the top 4 seeds. Right?BBB wrote:Rank the top 694/494 teams 1-4 and let everyone else try to play spoiler.
If Blaine and Hill win I don't think there will be any discussion of having any outstate teams seeded. I would rank em:
1)Tonka
2) Hill
3)Edina (who beat blaine twice)
4)Blaine
I guess whoever draws 1AA really gets the #1 seed
but not quite true lets say the #4 seed plays 1aa and destroys them, they still have to play Tonka in the semis but i could easily see the #3, #4 seeded teams getting upset (not necessarily by 1aa/ 3aa, more likely by 7aa,8aa) but haha again if hill / blaine get upset in section i could see DE getting the 4 seed
im just going to wait till sections are over until i make by predictions
You need to watch some games. Not one team wants to play AV right now (of course except Tonka). AV would beat South 7 out of 10.DasCondor wrote:yes he's saying since there soo weak whatever seeded teams plays them really has the #1 seed but i think 3aa is just as bad (if not worse)but not quite true lets say the #4 seed plays 1aa and destroys them, they still have to play Tonka in the semis but i could easily see the #3, #4 seeded teams getting upset (not necessarily by 1aa/ 3aa, more likely by 7aa,8aa) but haha again if hill / blaine get upset in section i could see DE getting the 4 seeddefensezone wrote:BBB...Doesn't the HS Hockey Board seed the top 4 and draw the next 4 out of a hat? Is so, then the 1AA winner could play any of the top 4 seeds. Right?BBB wrote:Rank the top 694/494 teams 1-4 and let everyone else try to play spoiler.
If Blaine and Hill win I don't think there will be any discussion of having any outstate teams seeded. I would rank em:
1)Tonka
2) Hill
3)Edina (who beat blaine twice)
4)Blaine
I guess whoever draws 1AA really gets the #1 seed
im just going to wait till sections are over until i make by predictions
[quote="Hoops"][quote="DasCondor"][quote="defensezone"][quote="BBB"]Rank the top 694/494 teams 1-4 and let everyone else try to play spoiler.
If Blaine and Hill win I don't think there will be any discussion of having any outstate teams seeded. I would rank em:
1)Tonka
2) Hill
3)Edina (who beat blaine twice)
4)Blaine
I guess whoever draws 1AA really gets the #1 seed[/quote]
BBB...Doesn't the HS Hockey Board seed the top 4 and draw the next 4 out of a hat? Is so, then the 1AA winner could play any of the top 4 seeds. Right?[/quote]
yes he's saying since there soo weak whatever seeded teams plays them really has the #1 seed [b]but i think 3aa is just as bad (if not worse)[/b]but not quite true lets say the #4 seed plays 1aa and destroys them, they still have to play Tonka in the semis but i could easily see the #3, #4 seeded teams getting upset (not necessarily by 1aa/ 3aa, more likely by 7aa,8aa) but haha again if hill / blaine get upset in section i could see DE getting the 4 seed
im just going to wait till sections are over until i make by predictions[/quote]
You need to watch some games. Not one team wants to play AV right now (of course except Tonka). AV would beat South 7 out of 10.[/quote]
I agree. I got to watch a few games this year and as long as Michaelson is healthy they are very potent. They put 32 shots on Ness last night in the last 2 periods alone and only gave up 16 in that same span... I would not want to face AV right away. Gretz looked solid last night as well, holding them in it until their nerves settled. I would not overlook AV.
If Blaine and Hill win I don't think there will be any discussion of having any outstate teams seeded. I would rank em:
1)Tonka
2) Hill
3)Edina (who beat blaine twice)
4)Blaine
I guess whoever draws 1AA really gets the #1 seed[/quote]
BBB...Doesn't the HS Hockey Board seed the top 4 and draw the next 4 out of a hat? Is so, then the 1AA winner could play any of the top 4 seeds. Right?[/quote]
yes he's saying since there soo weak whatever seeded teams plays them really has the #1 seed [b]but i think 3aa is just as bad (if not worse)[/b]but not quite true lets say the #4 seed plays 1aa and destroys them, they still have to play Tonka in the semis but i could easily see the #3, #4 seeded teams getting upset (not necessarily by 1aa/ 3aa, more likely by 7aa,8aa) but haha again if hill / blaine get upset in section i could see DE getting the 4 seed
im just going to wait till sections are over until i make by predictions[/quote]
You need to watch some games. Not one team wants to play AV right now (of course except Tonka). AV would beat South 7 out of 10.[/quote]
I agree. I got to watch a few games this year and as long as Michaelson is healthy they are very potent. They put 32 shots on Ness last night in the last 2 periods alone and only gave up 16 in that same span... I would not want to face AV right away. Gretz looked solid last night as well, holding them in it until their nerves settled. I would not overlook AV.
Thanks, I misunderstood...long week.DasCondor wrote:yes he's saying since there soo weak whatever seeded teams plays them really has the #1 seed but i think 3aa is just as bad (if not worse)defensezone wrote:BBB...Doesn't the HS Hockey Board seed the top 4 and draw the next 4 out of a hat? Is so, then the 1AA winner could play any of the top 4 seeds. Right?BBB wrote:Rank the top 694/494 teams 1-4 and let everyone else try to play spoiler.
If Blaine and Hill win I don't think there will be any discussion of having any outstate teams seeded. I would rank em:
1)Tonka
2) Hill
3)Edina (who beat blaine twice)
4)Blaine
I guess whoever draws 1AA really gets the #1 seed
but not quite true lets say the #4 seed plays 1aa and destroys them, they still have to play Tonka in the semis but i could easily see the #3, #4 seeded teams getting upset (not necessarily by 1aa/ 3aa, more likely by 7aa,8aa) but haha again if hill / blaine get upset in section i could see DE getting the 4 seed
im just going to wait till sections are over until i make by predictions
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newsguy35 wrote:I agree. I got to watch a few games this year and as long as Michaelson is healthy they are very potent. They put 32 shots on Ness last night in the last 2 periods alone and only gave up 16 in that same span... I would not want to face AV right away. Gretz looked solid last night as well, holding them in it until their nerves settled. I would not overlook AV.Hoops wrote:You need to watch some games. Not one team wants to play AV right now (of course except Tonka). AV would beat South 7 out of 10.DasCondor wrote: Gretz is no question a big game goalie...outstanding.
yes he's saying since there soo weak whatever seeded teams plays them really has the #1 seed but i think 3aa is just as bad (if not worse)but not quite true lets say the #4 seed plays 1aa and destroys them, they still have to play Tonka in the semis but i could easily see the #3, #4 seeded teams getting upset (not necessarily by 1aa/ 3aa, more likely by 7aa,8aa) but haha again if hill / blaine get upset in section i could see DE getting the 4 seed
im just going to wait till sections are over until i make by predictions
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im just saying if im tonka or edina right now , i would rather play South or AV than Duluth East or Roseau Im sure South or AV could upset the other 2 ranked teams (who we don't know yet) but i dont see either of them beating Tonka or EdinaHoops wrote:Opinion only..but w/ AV's goalie and the team they are right now.. yep 7 0f 10keepyourheadup wrote:Seven out of 10? perhaps but they finished behind South in the lake and both teams lost key players to injury.
no shot AV will get the chance to play South anyways maybe one of them will upset a seeded team but not both
They won't play in the winner's bracket but could play in the...DasCondor wrote:im just saying if im tonka or edina right now , i would rather play South or AV than Duluth East or Roseau Im sure South or AV could upset the other 2 ranked teams (who we don't know yet) but i dont see either of them beating Tonka or EdinaHoops wrote:Opinion only..but w/ AV's goalie and the team they are right now.. yep 7 0f 10keepyourheadup wrote:Seven out of 10? perhaps but they finished behind South in the lake and both teams lost key players to injury.
no shot AV will get the chance to play South anyways maybe one of them will upset a seeded team but not both
Probably right on Duluth East...but Roseau is not out of the AV or South category at all.
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I'd agree. Valley could be a darkhorse to pull a 1st day upset. If they don't I think they get beat by 3+ goals. Watched last nights game and thought they really dominated the game outside the first 5 minutes. The key for Valley is get an early lead IMO. If they get a lead, they can find rest for their top two lines. If they get behind and have to shorten the bench, they'll run out of gas in the 3rd.Hoops wrote:Opinion only..but w/ AV's goalie and the team they are right now.. yep 7 0f 10keepyourheadup wrote:Seven out of 10? perhaps but they finished behind South in the lake and both teams lost key players to injury.
As for seedings vs LVS. The top line for Valley is one of the best in the state and from what I saw when I watched LVS, they are a better two way group than the Cougs. These two teams split the regular season and IIRC Michaelson was out or working back into game shape in the game LVS won by a goal. Kid can blow up a game when he is on. Add to that a hot goalie and I think 7 of 10 could happen. That said, these two teams will make the South Suburban awful deep in the next few seasons with an excellent Eagan team, Jefferson and Burnsville.
My assumptive seeds contingent on tonights games (yes I know they only seed 4):
1. Tonka
2. Edina
3. Blaine
4. Hill
5. East
6. AV
7. LVS
8. Roseau
by the way AV goalie held them in and at least one of the goals woodbury's goalie should of stopped and the 3rd the defencemen got burned "trying to pinch" leading to that 2 on 1Hoops wrote:Opinion only..but w/ AV's goalie and the team they are right now.. yep 7 0f 10keepyourheadup wrote:Seven out of 10? perhaps but they finished behind South in the lake and both teams lost key players to injury.
I wouldnt get too exited over that win , considering its woodbury which i believe tonka scored 9 goals on earlier this season without a open net
and the real question is how do you think the AV goalie will hold up against a team like tonka / edina ?
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Don't think Tonka or Edina really care who they play in the first round...DasCondor wrote:im just saying if im tonka or edina right now , i would rather play South or AV than Duluth East or Roseau Im sure South or AV could upset the other 2 ranked teams (who we don't know yet) but i dont see either of them beating Tonka or EdinaHoops wrote:Opinion only..but w/ AV's goalie and the team they are right now.. yep 7 0f 10keepyourheadup wrote:Seven out of 10? perhaps but they finished behind South in the lake and both teams lost key players to injury.
no shot AV will get the chance to play South anyways maybe one of them will upset a seeded team but not both
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I think Tonka/Edina are the class of the tournament. That said, I think a hot/confident goalie can stand on his head against anyone anytime. There's a reason we remember names like Reggie Miracle with this tourney. The more important question is how does the rest of his team respond. If they amp up the energy and can catch their netminders confidence look out the upset alert is on, whether that is East, AV, LVS, Roseau or anyone else. If Tonka/Edina vs the Field all play their best games, then Tonka/Edina wins the title. However, how often do we see every team play its best game every night. I would have laughed at you if you would have told me Rochester Century would be playing at the X on Friday after beating HM a few years ago. But they did.DasCondor wrote:by the way AV goalie held them in and at least one of the goals woodbury's goalie should of stopped and the 3rd the defencemen got burned "trying to pinch" leading to that 2 on 1Hoops wrote:Opinion only..but w/ AV's goalie and the team they are right now.. yep 7 0f 10keepyourheadup wrote:Seven out of 10? perhaps but they finished behind South in the lake and both teams lost key players to injury.
I wouldnt get too exited over that win , considering its woodbury which i believe tonka scored 9 goals on earlier this season without a open net
and the real question is how do you think the AV goalie will hold up against a team like tonka / edina ?
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