St Thomas (8-3) @ Shattuck (26-5-2) 1-18-11 7pm

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:42 pm

Shattuck hasn't lost since before the MSHSL started. They have scored 22 goals while allowing 5 in beating Delbarton and Culver twice in the last three days. Should be a real struggle for St Thomas.

wblhcky24 · Post by **wblhcky24** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:46 pm

Shattuck will win by at least 5

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:48 pm

Shattuck 7-2

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:54 pm

wblhcky24 wrote:Shattuck will win by at least 5

Unfortunately this is probably true.

Does Shattuck have a mascot?

wblhcky24 · Post by **wblhcky24** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:01 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:
wblhcky24 wrote:Shattuck will win by at least 5
Unfortunately this is probably true.

Does Shattuck have a mascot?

Ya the sabres

HockeyMN1 · Post by **HockeyMN1** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:21 pm

Shattuck by like 6. Idk why STA or Shattuck takes these A vs. AAA games. STA's not so good this year, 2-3 against AA teams. This won't be close.

deacon · Post by **deacon** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:24 am

Midget or Prep team? Outcome unlikely to change...

High Flyer · Post by **High Flyer** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:49 am

HockeyMN1 wrote:Shattuck by like 6. Idk why STA or Shattuck takes these A vs. AAA games. STA's not so good this year, 2-3 against AA teams. This won't be close.

I think the STA/SSM game will be much closer than people are thinking and is a winnable game for STA.

High Flyer · Post by **High Flyer** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:06 am

deacon wrote:Midget or Prep team? Outcome unlikely to change...

Deacon-Most of the midget AAA team would not even make the STA varsity team, shows how much you know...

Big difference between the prep and midget AAA & AA teams

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:00 am

High Flyer wrote:
HockeyMN1 wrote:Shattuck by like 6. Idk why STA or Shattuck takes these A vs. AAA games. STA's not so good this year, 2-3 against AA teams. This won't be close.
I think the STA/SSM game will be much closer than people are thinking and is a winnable game for STA.

Just curious why you think this. SSM won 8-2 against a team St Thomas played quite evenly (shots 25-21 for STA). I'd love to watch them win, but it really seems like the odds are against them here.

Anyone know if it's being broadcast anywhere?

Zamman · Post by **Zamman** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:13 am

Just to clarify, STA is playing the Prep team which is who Benilde and AHA play every year.
Not a good judge of how a team is. Seems to me that a couple of years ago Benilde beat SSM in Mankato, the next night SSM beat AHA. AHA beat Benilde that year also.

mnjorc · Post by **mnjorc** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:36 am

I would like to think that STA will win this one, but I know better. I think that minus goaltending STA would actually have a shot. The STA offense is strong although they often play with the puck a bit too much when they just need to put the puck on net and hope for a junk goal. The STA goalies are getting better as the year progresses but are still fairly inexperienced compared to many others out there. If the STA goalies play the way they did against Delbarton then maybe STA has a chance. Shattuck is just a super strong team in every way. It could be a good reality check for STA and may very well help prepare them to go to The Show. Maybe if the MSHSL would add another 10 games for every team in the state then more HS teams in MN could be competitive against the teams like Shattuck and the National Development Team in addition to keeping a few more talented players in state. That is another totally separate topic though. Shattuck has already played more games then are possible for any HS team in MN.

DubCHAGuy · Post by **DubCHAGuy** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:02 pm

High Flyer wrote:
deacon wrote:Midget or Prep team? Outcome unlikely to change...
Deacon-Most of the midget AAA team would not even make the STA varsity team, shows how much you know...

Big difference between the prep and midget AAA & AA teams

I would disagree. They were 4-2-2 against Elite II teams last fall, so they obviously have a bunch of good players. I'd take STA to beat the midget AAA team if they played head to head, but I would say it would be by a 2 or 3 goal spread. That's no disrespect to STA, Shattuck's entire program is just on an entirely different level.

As for this one, i'll take Shattuck Prep 4-1.

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:12 pm

For STA to win this game an incredible number of things will have to go their way. In the fall Elite league Shattuck was as good as anyone. Now they've played and practiced for 2 1/2 months and I'm certain they've improved. After the top six to eight players for STA they simply will not have the horses to play with them. Shattucks depth will grind them down, I just hope it stays competitive.

observer · Post by **observer** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:49 pm

Watch and learn. Shattuck plays a style different than any Minnesota High School team. It's possible as their roster, top to bottom, is extremely solid and no Minnesota High School team can claim the same. Their speed and conditioning is relentless. They love to hit and are a little nasty as they pound on one another all week and then love to pound the other team on game day. You will see almost no coasting or less than full effort. They will outwork any and every one and bust axx every shift. Number one factor will be conditioning.

High Flyer · Post by **High Flyer** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:54 pm

DubCHAGuy wrote:
High Flyer wrote:
deacon wrote:Midget or Prep team? Outcome unlikely to change...
Deacon-Most of the midget AAA team would not even make the STA varsity team, shows how much you know...

Big difference between the prep and midget AAA & AA teams
I would disagree. They were 4-2-2 against Elite II teams last fall, so they obviously have a bunch of good players. I'd take STA to beat the midget AAA team if they played head to head, but I would say it would be by a 2 or 3 goal spread. That's no disrespect to STA, Shattuck's entire program is just on an entirely different level.

As for this one, i'll take Shattuck Prep 4-1.

I'll take STA and the under for a bag if mini donuts & a maui waui at the state tournament this year.

High Flyer · Post by **High Flyer** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:13 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:
High Flyer wrote:
HockeyMN1 wrote:Shattuck by like 6. Idk why STA or Shattuck takes these A vs. AAA games. STA's not so good this year, 2-3 against AA teams. This won't be close.
I think the STA/SSM game will be much closer than people are thinking and is a winnable game for STA.
Just curious why you think this. SSM won 8-2 against a team St Thomas played quite evenly (shots 25-21 for STA).

I'm not sure I can comment on the SSM/Del. game, as the only thing I know about it was the score and that SSM had 30 SOG. How/why they got those goals, not sure. I just lack a lot of information that would allow be to compare what went into the results.

I was told that a Del. parent made the comment that they were playing a lot better hockey on Sat., than they did on Fri. Anyone know when they flew in?

Zamman · Post by **Zamman** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:44 pm

observer wrote:Watch and learn. Shattuck plays a style different than any Minnesota High School team. It's possible as their roster, top to bottom, is extremely solid and no Minnesota High School team can claim the same. Their speed and conditioning is relentless. They love to hit and are a little nasty as they pound on one another all week and then love to pound the other team on game day. You will see almost no coasting or less than full effort. They will outwork any and every one and bust axx every shift. Number one factor will be conditioning.

SSM plays a different style of hockey at their rink then say at AHA or Benilde. Their refs call the game different. SSM is usually very fast and big, play hard and finish every check whether you have the puck or not. They are fun to watch.

itsmorefun · Post by **itsmorefun** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:44 pm

Got a question:

How is it that Shattuck, a tier one hockey program in Minnesota, can have so much respect and positive ora from the Minnesota hockey world, but Minnesota Made or Fire Hockey, which is also considered Tier One or AAA, continues to get so much grief from the Minnesota hockey world?

Any insights?

puckster15 · Post by **puckster15** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:22 pm

I think it is fair to say that a SSM win for STA is an uphill battle. Regardless, got to give credit to STA coaches in putting together a competitive schedule for a class A team.

Other than HM, conference is usually pretty weak. Yes, Mahtomedi had their number last year.

Win or lose, it will be great competition and the potential for a very good game.

johnnyquest · Post by **johnnyquest** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:37 pm

notice the number of games played for each team

puckster15 · Post by **puckster15** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:10 pm

Any player that played in Elite league probably has the same number of games under their belt for 2010 - 2011 season.

hockeyrocks · Post by **hockeyrocks** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:15 pm

Shattuck should win this one by 4-5 goals.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:45 am

HShockeywatcher wrote: Anyone know if it's being broadcast anywhere?

High Flyer · Post by **High Flyer** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:43 am

puckster15 wrote:Any player that played in Elite league probably has the same number of games under their belt for 2010 - 2011 season.

I know what your saying puckster15, but it is different because the SSM team has been practicing together 4-5 days a week since Sept. 1, where as the STA team has only been practicing together since mid- Nov.

At this point in the season, the SSM team is just more polished...

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St Thomas (8-3) @ Shattuck (26-5-2) 1-18-11 7pm

Who wins?

St Thomas (8-3) @ Shattuck (26-5-2) 1-18-11 7pm

SSM wins 5-2