Howie, high on myself as a hockey mind is something I definitely am not. I've gotten made fun of on here for asking dumb questions before that an average hockey mind would know.Howie wrote:HSHW, the types of posts like the one above by you is what keeps these going. For someone who admits you never played, coached, or anything, you sure are high on yourself as a hockey mind. When you accomplish any of the above, you can call the rest of us ignorant, until then realize that you are the minority on this site.HShockeywatcher wrote:dontcallmeshirley, great post, but there's ultimately little point in making it. I've tried with very similar posts, as have others. I assume the majority of posters on here are from public schools (would make sense). I didn't know much about them til later in life, and I'm sure the same can be said of the reverse for most. I've never understood why ignorance of a topic brings rudeness, but it probably will continue.
AA makes sense for the most part, but parts of A have always confused me, assuming the goal is to be geographic, not talent based. Litchfield and Wilmar are right next to each other but in different sections; Proctor, Hermantown and Central, Park Rapids, etc, etc. But thanks for the link.High Flyer wrote: http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/competitiveS ... tivity=410
If you look on the left, you can click on "map" and this gives you a great idea of geo-relationship of the schools
No where in my post did I call any person or people ignorant, but that people can be ignorant of a specific topic. One of the definitions of ignorance from webster.com is "lack of knowledge." Period. Everyone is ignorant about something. Ignorant and dumb (or whatever you were thinking I meant) are not the same thing.
If my proper use of vocabulary makes me look bad for some reason, I can live with that.
As to your previous post, you should add that Warroad won in 2003 and 2005 and Hermantown won in 2007. Orono, Simley and Red Wing also made the finals in that time.
Another way to look at what is shown in those 11 years there have been 6 successful private school programs (5 that are currently Class A) and 5 successful public school programs, if we are counting making the finals as success. If it were a slew of private schools, then we could call it a private school thing, but it is specific private schools, just as it is specific public schools. Just another perspective to throw in there.
What you are saying may happen, which isn't very specific, nor should it be. I have not personally seen it, and have personally heard from multiple sources at multiple institutions that it does not happen. But I doubt it happens with all students. Many of these things probably happen at specific public schools as well, I don't know. And where the line between "legal recruiting" and "illegal recruiting" for a business is, I don't know.
Public schools all around the state and country deal with different types of recruiting, kids leaving for better athletic programs because "the academics are better" or other various reasons, some legit, some not. No, I do not have experience with it in hockey specifically, or MN for that matter, so maybe "hockey's different," but I doubt it. It happens on both sides.
The interesting thing that I see in MN and elsewhere is how gratifying it is to beat those schools. AHA recruits all their players but hasn't made state in 3 years. In my time in Duluth I'd heard of different people moving to Hermantown so they could raise their kids there so they could play hockey there. Sure, a handful (or a couple, depending on how you look at it) of private school have had recent success...as have the same amount of public schools. Personally, I'm on the fence on what is "right" and what is "wrong." Not all of what I post is my opinion, just different sides to a topic. It's a crazy systems, with different loop holes, some legal, some not.
Nothing is about "getting to last word." For me it is about hearing both sides to topics, learning information, discussing things, and putting other possible opinions out there.