Big Games and Your Predictions – Week 4

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:26 pm

Week 4

Is it December already?

Everyone reading this is welcome to participate - why not give it a go? Just post your predictions with scores by this week's deadline, which is Tuesday, December 3rd at 7:00pm.

Tuesday, December 3
#5A East Grand Forks vs. #3A Thief River Falls
#4A South St. Paul vs. #10AA Dodge County
#14AA North Wright County vs. #9AA Buffalo
#18AA Andover vs. #15AA Armstrong/Cooper
#13AA Lakeville South vs. #3AA Hill-Murray

Thursday, December 5
#16AA Stillwater vs. #12AA Blaine

Friday, December 6
#2AA Benilde-St. Margaret’s vs. #8AA Lakeville North
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper vs. #3A Thief River Falls

Saturday, December 7
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper vs. #5A East Grand Forks
#1AA Minnetonka vs. #3AA Hill-Murray
#8A Orono vs. #2A Blake
#7AA Eden Prairie vs. #10AA Dodge County
#12A Totino-Grace vs. #20AA Irondale

Good luck everybody!

Edited 11/30/13 - deleted the Red Wing/Irondale game which has been postponed.

Knight7 · Post by **Knight7** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:34 pm

Red Wing/Irondale game postponed until later date.

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:46 pm

Knight7 wrote:Red Wing/Irondale game postponed until later date.

Thanks, Knight7 - this game has been deleted from the Week 4 schedule.

Silent But Deadly · Post by **Silent But Deadly** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:55 pm

Week 4

Tuesday, December 3
#5A East Grand Forks 1 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 3
#4A South St. Paul 2 vs. #10AA Dodge County 1
#14AA North Wright County 2 vs. #9AA Buffalo 3
#18AA Andover 1 vs. #15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3
#13AA Lakeville South 1 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 2

Thursday, December 5
#16AA Stillwater 2 vs. #12AA Blaine 3

Friday, December 6
#2AA Benilde-St. Margaret’s 4 vs. #8AA Lakeville North 2
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 1 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 3

Saturday, December 7
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3 vs. #5A East Grand Forks 1
#1AA Minnetonka 2 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 3
#8A Orono 2 vs. #2A Blake 3
#7AA Eden Prairie 2 vs. #10AA Dodge County 3
#12A Totino-Grace 1 vs. #20AA Irondale 4

Knight7 · Post by **Knight7** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:06 pm

Tuesday, December 3
#5A East Grand Forks 2 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 3
#4A South St. Paul 2 vs. #10AA Dodge County 4
#14AA North Wright County 1 vs. #9AA Buffalo 3
#18AA Andover 2 vs. #15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3
#13AA Lakeville South 2 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 3

Thursday, December 5
#16AA Stillwater 2 vs. #12AA Blaine 4

Friday, December 6
#2AA Benilde-St. Margaret’s 3 vs. #8AA Lakeville North 4
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 2

Saturday, December 7
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3 vs. #5A East Grand Forks 2
#1AA Minnetonka 4 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 3
#8A Orono 2 vs. #2A Blake 4
#7AA Eden Prairie 3 vs. #10AA Dodge County 4
#12A Totino-Grace 1 vs. #20AA Irondale 3

AAA Dad · Post by **AAA Dad** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:11 pm

MN I think u know you are leaving out a very big match up this week! Just because LPH is a bit behind you know the Rochester Lourdes/JM vs Achiever is a BIG match up vs top teams in the State on Saturday!
Am I wrong???

Nimrod · Post by **Nimrod** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:48 pm

MNHockeyFan wrote:Week 4

Is it December already?

Everyone reading this is welcome to participate - why not give it a go? Just post your predictions with scores by this week's deadline, which is Tuesday, December 3rd at 7:00pm.

Tuesday, December 3
#5A East Grand Forks 4 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 3
#4A South St. Paul 1 vs. #10AA Dodge County 5
#14AA North Wright County 4 vs. #9AA Buffalo 2
#18AA Andover 1 vs. #15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3
#13AA Lakeville South 0 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 3

Thursday, December 5
#16AA Stillwater 2 vs. #12AA Blaine 4

Friday, December 6
#2AA Benilde-St. Margaret’s 3 vs. #8AA Lakeville North 1
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 0

Saturday, December 7
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3 vs. #5A East Grand Forks 0
#1AA Minnetonka 2 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 0
#8A Orono 2 vs. #2A Blake 3
#7AA Eden Prairie 2 vs. #10AA Dodge County 3
#12A Totino-Grace 0 vs. #20AA Irondale 3

Good luck everybody!

Edited 11/30/13 - deleted the Red Wing/Irondale game which has been postponed.

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:01 pm

AAA Dad wrote:MN I think u know you are leaving out a very big match up this week! Just because LPH is a bit behind you know the Rochester Lourdes/JM vs Achiever is a BIG match up vs top teams in the State on Saturday!
Am I wrong???

No, you are not wrong. I actually considered including this game, which appears to be a very interesting match-up. But in the end there were enough games that already qualified according to the usual criteria...

I do think Achiever at #11A is very under-rated in Class A; they should definitely be in the Top 10 IMO. But Rochester Lourdes/JM is not rated at all, so I chose not to include this game.

Looking ahead, I see two Achiever games that will definitely be included when I post Week 5!

AAA Dad · Post by **AAA Dad** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:28 pm

MNHockeyFan wrote:
AAA Dad wrote:MN I think u know you are leaving out a very big match up this week! Just because LPH is a bit behind you know the Rochester Lourdes/JM vs Achiever is a BIG match up vs top teams in the State on Saturday!
Am I wrong???
No, you are not wrong. I actually considered including this game, which appears to be a very interesting match-up. But in the end there were enough games that already qualified according to the usual criteria...

I do think Achiever at #11A is very under-rated in Class A; they should definitely be in the Top 10 IMO. But Rochester Lourdes/JM is not rated at all, so I chose not to include this game.

Looking ahead, I see two Achiever games that will definitely be included when I post Week 5!

Come on MN! I was referring to Roch L/JM being #9 overall on KRACH and Achiever 11..... The politics of LPH will catch up at some point

mnhockey3535 · Post by **mnhockey3535** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:52 pm

Tuesday, December 3
#5A East Grand Forks 3 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 4
#4A South St. Paul 3 vs. #10AA Dodge County 2
#14AA North Wright County 1 vs. #9AA Buffalo 3
#18AA Andover 1 vs. #15AA Armstrong/Cooper 2
#13AA Lakeville South 2 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 5

Thursday, December 5
#16AA Stillwater 3 vs. #12AA Blaine 4

Friday, December 6
#2AA Benilde-St. Margaret’s 4 vs. #8AA Lakeville North 2
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 2

Saturday, December 7
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 2 vs. #5A East Grand Forks 1
#1AA Minnetonka 1 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 3
#8A Orono 2 vs. #2A Blake 5
#7AA Eden Prairie 4 vs. #10AA Dodge County 1
#12A Totino-Grace 2 vs. #20AA Irondale 4

Maverick2000 · Post by **Maverick2000** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:08 pm

Week 4

Tuesday, December 3
#5A East Grand Forks 2 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 3
#4A South St. Paul 2 vs. #10AA Dodge County 4
#14AA North Wright County 2 vs. #9AA Buffalo 3
#18AA Andover 1 vs. #15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3
#13AA Lakeville South 1 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 5

Thursday, December 5
#16AA Stillwater 4vs. #12AA Blaine 2

Friday, December 6
#2AA Benilde-St. Margaret’s 4 vs. #8AA Lakeville North 3
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 1 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 4

Saturday, December 7
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 2vs. #5A East Grand Forks 3
#1AA Minnetonka 2 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 3
#8A Orono 4vs. #2A Blake 3
#7AA Eden Prairie 2 vs. #10AA Dodge County 3
#12A Totino-Grace 1 vs. #20AA Irondale 4

Maverick2000 · Post by **Maverick2000** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:17 pm

AAA Dad wrote:
MN I think u know you are leaving out a very big match up this week! Just because LPH is a bit behind you know the Rochester Lourdes/JM vs Achiever is a BIG match up vs top teams in the State on Saturday!
Am I wrong???

No, you are not wrong. I actually considered including this game, which appears to be a very interesting match-up. But in the end there were enough games that already qualified according to the usual criteria...

I do think Achiever at #11A is very under-rated in Class A; they should definitely be in the Top 10 IMO. But Rochester Lourdes/JM is not rated at all, so I chose not to include this game.

Looking ahead, I see two Achiever games that will definitely be included when I post Week 5!

Come on MN! I was referring to Roch L/JM being #9 overall on KRACH and Achiever 11..... The politics of LPH will catch up at some point

Krach ratings are close at end of year but soooooo far off this early so yes LPH can have some politics as HS coaches vote but is much better then a formula that does not have enough data yet. Jm/Lourdes played a top 20 team Roseville and was pounded 5-0 and has played no other quality teams to even sniff top 20 status. Jm/Lourdes can make a statement Monday vs wayzata. As far as achiever they are getting stiffed by upset hs coaches whom refuse to vote for them as they are no doubt a top 3 team in single A and in my opinion the top team as very good depth and balance which says a lot in single A where most teams have one good line.

sinbin · Post by **sinbin** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:57 am

Again, the really good teams don't much care what their rankings are during the season and do their talking on the ice during the playoffs. Plus, I might imagine that any team that is currently "under-ranked" would use that as motivation and work even harder as part of a "we'll show them they're wrong" attitude. I don't see a terrible amount of downside to being temporarily under-ranked. I'd be more concerned about being over-ranked where the expectations are high, but you might not have the ability to back it up.

wolfman · Post by **wolfman** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:52 am

Tuesday, December 3
#5A East Grand Forks 2 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 3
#4A South St. Paul 1 vs. #10AA Dodge County 3
#14AA North Wright County 1 vs. #9AA Buffalo 3
#18AA Andover 2 vs. #15AA Armstrong/Cooper 4
#13AA Lakeville South 1vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 4

Thursday, December 5
#16AA Stillwater 2 vs. #12AA Blaine 3

Friday, December 6
#2AA Benilde-St. Margaret’s 5 vs. #8AA Lakeville North 1
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 1 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 2

Saturday, December 7
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 2 vs. #5A East Grand Forks 3
#1AA Minnetonka 2 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 3
#8A Orono 2 vs. #2A Blake 4
#7AA Eden Prairie 4 vs. #10AA Dodge County 3
#12A Totino-Grace 1 vs. #20AA Irondale 4

AAA Dad · Post by **AAA Dad** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:53 am

Maverick,

Good points! Only decent win by Roch L/JM was over Century and Century outshot them 33-25. It will be interesting to see if they can hang at all with Wayzata tonight. It could be ugly like their earlier Roseville matchup.

clutterbucket · Post by **clutterbucket** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:12 am

Tuesday, December 3
#5A East Grand Forks 3 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 2
#4A South St. Paul 1 vs. #10AA Dodge County 3
#14AA North Wright County 1 vs. #9AA Buffalo 3
#18AA Andover 2 vs. #15AA Armstrong/Cooper 1
#13AA Lakeville South 1vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 4

Thursday, December 5
#16AA Stillwater 2 vs. #12AA Blaine 3

Friday, December 6
#2AA Benilde-St. Margaret’s 3 vs. #8AA Lakeville North 1
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 1 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 2

Saturday, December 7
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 2 vs. #5A East Grand Forks 3
#1AA Minnetonka 2 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 1
#8A Orono 3 vs. #2A Blake 2
#7AA Eden Prairie 2 vs. #10AA Dodge County 3
#12A Totino-Grace 1 vs. #20AA Irondale 2

Orange_Wisent · Post by **Orange_Wisent** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:29 am

Tuesday, December 3
#5A East Grand Forks 3 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 2
#4A South St. Paul 1 vs. #10AA Dodge County 2
#14AA North Wright County 2 vs. #9AA Buffalo 4
#18AA Andover 1 vs. #15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3
#13AA Lakeville South 1 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 4

Thursday, December 5
#16AA Stillwater 3 vs. #12AA Blaine 4

Friday, December 6
#2AA Benilde-St. Margaret’s 3 vs. #8AA Lakeville North 1
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 1 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 3 - Refs Will play a roll

Saturday, December 7
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 1 vs. #5A East Grand Forks 2
#1AA Minnetonka 2 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 1
#8A Orono 3 vs. #2A Blake 4
#7AA Eden Prairie 4 vs. #10AA Dodge County 3
#12A Totino-Grace 1 vs. #20AA Irondale 5

MNHockeyFan · Post by **MNHockeyFan** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:57 am

Tuesday, December 3
#5A East Grand Forks 1, #3A Thief River Falls 2
#4A South St. Paul 3, #10AA Dodge County 2
#14AA North Wright County 2, #9AA Buffalo 4
#18AA Andover 2, #15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3
#13AA Lakeville South 1, #3AA Hill-Murray 3

Thursday, December 5
#16AA Stillwater 1, #12AA Blaine 4

Friday, December 6
#2AA Benilde-St. Margaret’s 4, #8AA Lakeville North 1
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 1, #3A Thief River Falls 3

Saturday, December 7
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3, #5A East Grand Forks 2
#1AA Minnetonka 3, #3AA Hill-Murray 2
#8A Orono 3, #2A Blake 2
#7AA Eden Prairie 2, #10AA Dodge County 4
#12A Totino-Grace 0, #20AA Irondale 3

rascalbrock · Post by **rascalbrock** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:23 am

Tuesday, December 3
#5A East Grand Forks 2 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 4
#4A South St. Paul 2 vs. #10AA Dodge County 3
#14AA North Wright County 1 vs. #9AA Buffalo 2
#18AA Andover 1 vs. #15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3
#13AA Lakeville South 1 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 4

Thursday, December 5
#16AA Stillwater 1 vs. #12AA Blaine 3

Friday, December 6
#2AA Benilde-St. Margaret’s 3 vs. #8AA Lakeville North 1
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 4 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 0

Saturday, December 7
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3 vs. #5A East Grand Forks 2
#1AA Minnetonka 1 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 2
#8A Orono 1 vs. #2A Blake 3
#7AA Eden Prairie 1 vs. #10AA Dodge County 4
#12A Totino-Grace 2 vs. #20AA Irondale 3

hockeybozo · Post by **hockeybozo** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:34 pm

Tuesday December 3rd
East Grand Forks 2 Thief River Falls 3
South St Paul 1 Dodge County 3
North Wright County 1 Buffalo 3
Andover 0 Armstrong Cooper 1
Lakeville South 1 Hill Murray 3

Thursday December 5
Stillwater 3 Blaine 4

Friday December 6
Benilde SM 3 Lakeville North 2
Armstrong Cooper 1 Thief River Falls 3

Saturday December 7
Armstrong Cooper 2 East Grand Forks 3
Minnetonka 1 Hill Murray 2
Orono 1 Blake 4
Eden Prairie 2 Dodge County 3
Totino Grace 0 Irondale 5

RailingWizardofOZ · Post by **RailingWizardofOZ** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:56 pm

Tuesday, December 3
#5A East Grand Forks 4 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 3
#4A South St. Paul 2 vs. #10AA Dodge County 4
#14AA North Wright County 3 vs. #9AA Buffalo 1
#18AA Andover 2 vs. #15AA Armstrong/Cooper 1
#13AA Lakeville South 1 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 4

Thursday, December 5
#16AA Stillwater 1 vs. #12AA Blaine 4

Friday, December 6
#2AA Benilde-St. Margaret’s 3 vs. #8AA Lakeville North 2
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 2 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 3

Saturday, December 7
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 2 vs. #5A East Grand Forks 2
#1AA Minnetonka 3 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 1
#8A Orono 3 vs. #2A Blake 4
#7AA Eden Prairie 1 vs. #10AA Dodge County 2
#12A Totino-Grace 2 vs. #20AA Irondale 4

hockeyfan87 · Post by **hockeyfan87** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:10 pm

Week 4

Tuesday, December 3
#5A East Grand Forks 2 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 3
#4A South St. Paul 2 vs. #10AA Dodge County 4
#14AA North Wright County 3 vs. #9AA Buffalo 1
#18AA Andover 2 vs. #15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3
#13AA Lakeville South 2 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 4

Thursday, December 5
#16AA Stillwater 3 vs. #12AA Blaine 4

Friday, December 6
#2AA Benilde-St. Margaret’s 3 vs. #8AA Lakeville North 1
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 4 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 2

Saturday, December 7
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3 vs. #5A East Grand Forks 1
#1AA Minnetonka 3 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 2
#8A Orono 3 vs. #2A Blake 4
#7AA Eden Prairie 3 vs. #10AA Dodge County 2
#12A Totino-Grace 1 vs. #20AA Irondale 4

capitalpride · Post by **capitalpride** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:54 pm

Tuesday December 3rd
East Grand Forks 3 Thief River Falls 2
South St Paul 1 Dodge County 3
North Wright County 3 Buffalo 2
Andover 3 Armstrong Cooper 1
Lakeville South 1 Hill Murray 4

Thursday December 5
Stillwater 2 Blaine 4

Friday December 6
Benilde SM 3 Lakeville North 2
Armstrong Cooper 2 Thief River Falls 3

Saturday December 7
Armstrong Cooper 2 East Grand Forks 3
Minnetonka 1 Hill Murray 3
Orono 1 Blake 5
Eden Prairie 4 Dodge County 3
Totino Grace 1 Irondale 5

ruprecht · Post by **ruprecht** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:50 pm

Maverick2000 wrote:...As far as achiever they are getting stiffed by upset hs coaches whom refuse to vote for them as they are no doubt a top 3 team in single A and in my opinion the top team...

Really?
They are "no doubt a top 3 team"?

< BS (Get it, I'm "calling BS")

Voting coaches have to go on results of games played for the most part when ranking teams. They maybe, just maybe, have personal knowledge of 2 or 3 players on any given team (mostly none, however).
So considering the following results/scores, which ones point to insisting that AA is in the top 3?

Unranked Mahtomedi 6 SLP 1 - AA 3 SLP 0 -- I guess this means that Mahtomedi should also be in the top 3 somewhere.

#14 SPU 7 Simley 1 - AA 7 Simley 1 -- Again, this means that SPU is no doubt a top 3 team? Tied with AA?

#8 Orono 10 New Prague 1 - AA 3 New Prague 0 -- Apparently this means that Orono should be ranked considerably higher than AA somewhere in the top 3.

CDH 8 NSP 1 (Reports are that the top 4 or 5 players for CDH spent the entire 3rd period on the bench and some JV players finished the game for them) - AA 2 NSP 0 -- I guess this means that Cretin should get elected Pope.

Antagonist · Post by **Antagonist** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:20 pm

Tuesday, December 3
#5A East Grand Forks 2 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 1
#4A South St. Paul 2 vs. #10AA Dodge County 1
#14AA North Wright County 3 vs. #9AA Buffalo 2
#18AA Andover 1 vs. #15AA Armstrong/Cooper 3
#13AA Lakeville South 1 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 4

Thursday, December 5
#16AA Stillwater 4 vs. #12AA Blaine 2

Friday, December 6
#2AA Benilde-St. Margaret’s 4 vs. #8AA Lakeville North 2
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 1 vs. #3A Thief River Falls 3

Saturday, December 7
#15AA Armstrong/Cooper 0 vs. #5A East Grand Forks 3
#1AA Minnetonka 2 vs. #3AA Hill-Murray 4
#8A Orono 1 vs. #2A Blake 2
#7AA Eden Prairie 1 vs. #10AA Dodge County 3
#12A Totino-Grace 0 vs. #20AA Irondale 3

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