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Post by zambonidriver » Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:38 am

nu2hockey wrote:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Maybe I had one too many as well. But here are my top ten.


A

1. P/H
2. SPU
3. Warroad
4. SSP
5. Hibbing
6. Holy Family
7. Mound Westonka
8. Red Wing
9. Breck
10. Northfield

AA

1 Edina
2 MG
3 Blaine
4 Centennial
5 ER/Z
6 Hill
7 Eagan
8 EP
9 CDH - Sleeper pick
Tie - Eastview, Forest Lake

Your AA is the same except switching ER/Z & EAGAN..that's cool

Class A

Blake has: Bizal,McClanahan,Burton,Daniel,Burton,Delianedis,Wethington, Vojta.... We are talking about class A where if you have 2 good players you are top 10. No other class A school has that much talent, and frankly except for a select few AA schools
..

Breck at three maybe too high,but:Zumwinkle,Williamson,Billing,Beniek,Mobley , with new goalie they are still a top class A

SPU lost Hansen also..

Since this is a pre-season list CDH & Eastview probably belong,but by year end they might not ...that"s why this is entertaining

FLAKE lost best 2 players (including goalie) ...considering that plus 11 of their wins were against teams with losing records plus another 2 wins against out-state teams who would struggle to win a combined 5 wins in Mn.....it will be interesting how they do this year, but for a pre-season poll, they would probably fall outside the top 10-15.
1 Edina Lost in Sections Goaltending questions.
2 MG Lost in Semis Probably should be #1
3 Blaine 16 Seniors
4 Centennial Two U18 Members
5 ER/Z Lost to FL in Sections GWG scored by 8th grader
6 Hill Lost 6 D1 Players Will not be as strong this year
7 Eagan Solid up and down the lineup
8 EP Defending State Champs should be higher
9 CDH - Sleeper pick Added Olivia Garrity really only 1 open Varsity spot
Tie - Eastview, Forest Lake Both in State Tournament No Love.
FL 1st three games MTKA, Duluth, Breck,

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Post by Hockey987 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:46 pm

zambonidriver wrote:
nu2hockey wrote:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Maybe I had one too many as well. But here are my top ten.


A

1. P/H
2. SPU
3. Warroad
4. SSP
5. Hibbing
6. Holy Family
7. Mound Westonka
8. Red Wing
9. Breck
10. Northfield

AA

1 Edina
2 MG
3 Blaine
4 Centennial
5 ER/Z
6 Hill
7 Eagan
8 EP
9 CDH - Sleeper pick
Tie - Eastview, Forest Lake

Your AA is the same except switching ER/Z & EAGAN..that's cool

Class A

Blake has: Bizal,McClanahan,Burton,Daniel,Burton,Delianedis,Wethington, Vojta.... We are talking about class A where if you have 2 good players you are top 10. No other class A school has that much talent, and frankly except for a select few AA schools
..

Breck at three maybe too high,but:Zumwinkle,Williamson,Billing,Beniek,Mobley , with new goalie they are still a top class A

SPU lost Hansen also..

Since this is a pre-season list CDH & Eastview probably belong,but by year end they might not ...that"s why this is entertaining

FLAKE lost best 2 players (including goalie) ...considering that plus 11 of their wins were against teams with losing records plus another 2 wins against out-state teams who would struggle to win a combined 5 wins in Mn.....it will be interesting how they do this year, but for a pre-season poll, they would probably fall outside the top 10-15.
1 Edina Lost in Sections Goaltending questions.
2 MG Lost in Semis Probably should be #1
3 Blaine 16 Seniors
4 Centennial Two U18 Members
5 ER/Z Lost to FL in Sections GWG scored by 8th grader
6 Hill Lost 6 D1 Players Will not be as strong this year
7 Eagan Solid up and down the lineup
8 EP Defending State Champs should be higher
9 CDH - Sleeper pick Added Olivia Garrity really only 1 open Varsity spot
Tie - Eastview, Forest Lake Both in State Tournament No Love.
FL 1st three games MTKA, Duluth, Breck,
Okay, am I missing something, or are the above comments wrong.

Edina lost in semis, not sections,
MG lost in finals, not semis

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Post by zambonidriver » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:14 pm

Hockey987 wrote:
zambonidriver wrote:
nu2hockey wrote:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Maybe I had one too many as well. But here are my top ten.


A

1. P/H
2. SPU
3. Warroad
4. SSP
5. Hibbing
6. Holy Family
7. Mound Westonka
8. Red Wing
9. Breck
10. Northfield

AA

1 Edina
2 MG
3 Blaine
4 Centennial
5 ER/Z
6 Hill
7 Eagan
8 EP
9 CDH - Sleeper pick
Tie - Eastview, Forest Lake

Your AA is the same except switching ER/Z & EAGAN..that's cool

Class A

Blake has: Bizal,McClanahan,Burton,Daniel,Burton,Delianedis,Wethington, Vojta.... We are talking about class A where if you have 2 good players you are top 10. No other class A school has that much talent, and frankly except for a select few AA schools
..

Breck at three maybe too high,but:Zumwinkle,Williamson,Billing,Beniek,Mobley , with new goalie they are still a top class A

SPU lost Hansen also..

Since this is a pre-season list CDH & Eastview probably belong,but by year end they might not ...that"s why this is entertaining

FLAKE lost best 2 players (including goalie) ...considering that plus 11 of their wins were against teams with losing records plus another 2 wins against out-state teams who would struggle to win a combined 5 wins in Mn.....it will be interesting how they do this year, but for a pre-season poll, they would probably fall outside the top 10-15.
1 Edina Lost in Sections Goaltending questions.
2 MG Lost in Semis Probably should be #1
3 Blaine 16 Seniors
4 Centennial Two U18 Members
5 ER/Z Lost to FL in Sections GWG scored by 8th grader
6 Hill Lost 6 D1 Players Will not be as strong this year
7 Eagan Solid up and down the lineup
8 EP Defending State Champs should be higher
9 CDH - Sleeper pick Added Olivia Garrity really only 1 open Varsity spot
Tie - Eastview, Forest Lake Both in State Tournament No Love.
FL 1st three games MTKA, Duluth, Breck,
Okay, am I missing something, or are the above comments wrong.

Edina lost in semis, not sections,
MG lost in finals, not semis
I guess I had one too many that is what I meant

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Post by InigoMontoya » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:11 pm

nu2hockey wrote:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Maybe I had one too many as well. But here are my top ten.


A

1. P/H
2. SPU
3. Warroad
4. SSP
5. Hibbing
6. Holy Family
7. Mound Westonka
8. Red Wing
9. Breck
10. Northfield

AA

1 Edina
2 MG
3 Blaine
4 Centennial
5 ER/Z
6 Hill
7 Eagan
8 EP
9 CDH - Sleeper pick
Tie - Eastview, Forest Lake

Your AA is the same except switching ER/Z & EAGAN..that's cool

Class A

Blake has: Bizal,McClanahan,Burton,Daniel,Burton,Delianedis,Wethington, Vojta.... We are talking about class A where if you have 2 good players you are top 10. No other class A school has that much talent, and frankly except for a select few AA schools
..

Breck at three maybe too high,but:Zumwinkle,Williamson,Billing,Beniek,Mobley , with new goalie they are still a top class A

SPU lost Hansen also..

Since this is a pre-season list CDH & Eastview probably belong,but by year end they might not ...that"s why this is entertaining

FLAKE lost best 2 players (including goalie) ...considering that plus 11 of their wins were against teams with losing records plus another 2 wins against out-state teams who would struggle to win a combined 5 wins in Mn.....it will be interesting how they do this year, but for a pre-season poll, they would probably fall outside the top 10-15.
Is Holy Family playing A this year?

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Post by nu2hockey » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:18 pm

H987, you are correct , zd suffers from u12beer-goggles


Inigo..I don't think Holy Family/Waconia is playing class A..together they have 1400+ students , plus isn't this the off- year for class re-alignment

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Post by itsfoilcoach » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:46 am

nu2hockey wrote:H987, you are correct , zd suffers from u12beer-goggles


Inigo..I don't think Holy Family/Waconia is playing class A..together they have 1400+ students , plus isn't this the off- year for class re-alignment


I checked the Hub it looks like they are playing an A schedule.

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Post by LZ94 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:51 am

Holy Family/Waconia is listed on MSHSL website as in section 2AA.

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Post by luckyEPDad » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:52 pm

itsfoilcoach wrote:
nu2hockey wrote:H987, you are correct , zd suffers from u12beer-goggles


Inigo..I don't think Holy Family/Waconia is playing class A..together they have 1400+ students , plus isn't this the off- year for class re-alignment


I checked the Hub it looks like they are playing an A schedule.
How do you get that?? Remove their conference schedule and they play against:
Chaska Chan (AA)
Shakopee (AA)
St. Paul United
Hopkins/St Louis Park (AA)
CEC (AA)
Duluth Marshall
Eden Prairie (AA)
BSM (AA)
Totino Grace

Looks like a AA schedule to me.

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Post by zambonidriver » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:01 pm

luckyEPDad wrote:
itsfoilcoach wrote:
nu2hockey wrote:H987, you are correct , zd suffers from u12beer-goggles


Inigo..I don't think Holy Family/Waconia is playing class A..together they have 1400+ students , plus isn't this the off- year for class re-alignment


I checked the Hub it looks like they are playing an A schedule.
How do you get that?? Remove their conference schedule and they play against:
Chaska Chan (AA)
Shakopee (AA)
St. Paul United
Hopkins/St Louis Park (AA)
CEC (AA)
Duluth Marshall
Eden Prairie (AA)
BSM (AA)
Totino Grace

Looks like a AA schedule to me.
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/schoolactpag ... actnum=460

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2AA Competitive Section Assignments

Post by davegopher16 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:31 pm

Hockey, Girls
Class: AA
Section: 2
7 teams in this section

Eden Prairie High School
Minnetonka High School
Prior Lake High School
Shakopee High School
Coop: 55 "Bloomington Jefferson"
Bloomington Jefferson High School (HOST)
Bloomington Kennedy High School
Coop: 86 "Chaska/Chanhassen Storm Hawks"
Chanhassen High School
Chaska High School (HOST)
Coop: 643 "Holy Family Catholic/Waconia Wild Fire"
Holy Family Catholic High School (HOST)
Waconia High School

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Post by pepperpot » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:10 am

Predicitions for rankings from the land of Lumberjacks
AA
1 maple grove
2 edina
3 blaine
4 hill murray
5 centennial
6 eden prarie
7 eagan
8 tonka
9 eastview
10 cretin

A
1. blake
2. breck
3. mound westonka
4. spu
4. hibbing
5. hermantown
6. red wing
after this they are all not so good.

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Post by panpan111 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:49 am

I'm back for another great season of Girls High School Hockey!
My thoughts on the 5 teams that matter:
1. Maple Grove...Wente was as good as anyone in the state last year. This team just seems to have the will to win. Great goaltending with a supporting cast should lead the to the Championship game again this year.
2. Edina...A solid group of girls that have a great balance of scoring, defense, & goaltending. Bowlby & Oden will lead this team to play MG in the Championship game in St. Paul.
3. Blaine...This team will try find its way back to the State Tournament lead by the "Phenom" Ramsey Parent, Auman, Beebe, & Brown. Great depth & skill.
4. HM...Everyone is counting them out. Graduated some talent but the cupboard is not bare! Lead by Boreen, Featherstone, & Blinkhorn up front they will be forced to score more than the last few years! Ava Bailey is considered one of the best young goalies in the State and she will be protected by Keopple & Wemple on D. This is a team that plays a tough schedule that will once again find itself in St Paul in Feb.
5.Centennial...Hughes & Linser, & Peck will lead this pesky group to another successful season only to lose to Blaine in the Sections.
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Post by nu2hockey » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:36 am

panpan111 wrote:I'm back for another great season of Girls High School Hockey!
My thoughts on the 5 teams that matter:
1. Maple Grove...Wente was as good as anyone in the state last year. This team just seems to have the will to win. Great goaltending with a supporting cast should lead the to the Championship game again this year.
2. Edina...A solid group of girls that have a great balance of scoring, defense, & goaltending. Bowlby & Oden will lead this team to play MG in the Championship game in St. Paul.
3. Blaine...This team will find its way back to the State Tournament lead by the "Phenom" Ramsey Parent, Auman, Beebe, & Brown. Great depth & skill.
4. HM...Everyone is counting them out. Graduated some talent but the cupboard is not bare! Lead by Boreen, Featherstone, & Blinkhorn up front they will be forced to score more than the last few years! Ava Bailey is considered one of the best young goalies in the State and she will be protected by Keopple & Wemple on D. This is a team that plays a tough schedule that will once again find itself in St Paul in Feb.
5.Centennial...Hughes & Linser, & Peck will lead this pesky group to another successful season only to lose to Blaine in the Section Final this year.
Don't forget Blaine,Centennial, and MG are in same section

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Post by DannyCalifornia » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:35 pm

3. Blaine...This team will try find its way back to the State Tournament lead by the "Phenom" Ramsey Parent, Auman, Beebe, & Brown. Great depth & skill.

Easy on the "Phenom" stuff.

lol

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Post by thegreatone99 » Sun Nov 06, 2016 6:33 pm

DannyCalifornia wrote:3. Blaine...This team will try find its way back to the State Tournament lead by the "Phenom" Ramsey Parent, Auman, Beebe, & Brown. Great depth & skill.

Easy on the "Phenom" stuff.

lol

Easy on the team in general, heard the numbers were down for HS appears they will play 1 to 2 lines, good luck

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Post by Mavs » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:24 am

Who will be in the section final games in each section? (predictions)

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Post by jg2112 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:38 am

Mavs wrote:Who will be in the section final games in each section? (predictions)
For AA:

Farmington v. Lakeville South
Eden Prairie v. Tonka
Eastview v. Apple Valley
Hill-Murray v. White Bear Lake
Centennial v. Maple Grove
Edina v. Cretin-Derham
Forest Lake v. Elk River (additional prediction: if sections remain the same, the next four years this answer will be Andover v. Forest Lake, with the winner winning state at least 1 time).
St. Cloud v. Roseau

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Post by Mavs » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:03 am

jg2112 wrote:
Mavs wrote:Who will be in the section final games in each section? (predictions)
For AA:

Farmington v. Lakeville South
Eden Prairie v. Tonka
Eastview v. Apple Valley
Hill-Murray v. White Bear Lake
Centennial v. Maple Grove
Edina v. Cretin-Derham
Forest Lake v. Elk River (additional prediction: if sections remain the same, the next four years this answer will be Andover v. Forest Lake, with the winner winning state at least 1 time).
St. Cloud v. Roseau
Blaine doesn't have the depth?
Eagan???
WBL??? really?

Will be some really good section games

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Post by jg2112 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:59 am

Mavs wrote:
jg2112 wrote:
Mavs wrote:Who will be in the section final games in each section? (predictions)
For AA:

Farmington v. Lakeville South
Eden Prairie v. Tonka
Eastview v. Apple Valley
Hill-Murray v. White Bear Lake
Centennial v. Maple Grove
Edina v. Cretin-Derham
Forest Lake v. Elk River (additional prediction: if sections remain the same, the next four years this answer will be Andover v. Forest Lake, with the winner winning state at least 1 time).
St. Cloud v. Roseau
Blaine doesn't have the depth?
Eagan???
WBL??? really?

Will be some really good section games
I flipped a coin between Centennial and Blaine, no real preference.

I like Snodgrass and the Apple Valley goalie.

As for WBL, I just looked at the section. They were really young last year and have some very, very good skaters as well as a very good goalie.

I think the top four in the section are HM, WBL, MV, and STW. It wouldn't shock if MV made the Section final, but they will need time to adjust to Brodt's departure. STW re-grouping will also be fun to watch.

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Post by zambonidriver » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:01 am

jg2112 wrote:
Mavs wrote:Who will be in the section final games in each section? (predictions)
For AA:

Farmington v. Lakeville South
Eden Prairie v. Tonka
Eastview v. Apple Valley
Hill-Murray v. White Bear Lake
Centennial v. Maple Grove
Edina v. Cretin-Derham
Forest Lake v. Elk River (additional prediction: if sections remain the same, the next four years this answer will be Andover v. Forest Lake, with the winner winning state at least 1 time).
St. Cloud v. Roseau
No Eagan?
Wayzata?
NWC?

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Sections

Post by knights14 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:39 pm

Apple valley??? No chance. I know its only a scrimmage and its very early but East Ridge smoked Eastview up in Grand rapids this weekend 5-0. Again im sure both teams were moving players around but Snodgrass was on the ice for Eastview. Section 3AA is a 3 way race between Eagan, East Ridge, and Eastview.

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Post by InigoMontoya » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:04 am

zambonidriver wrote:
jg2112 wrote:
Mavs wrote:Who will be in the section final games in each section? (predictions)
For AA:

Farmington v. Lakeville South
Eden Prairie v. Tonka
Eastview v. Apple Valley
Hill-Murray v. White Bear Lake
Centennial v. Maple Grove
Edina v. Cretin-Derham
Forest Lake v. Elk River (additional prediction: if sections remain the same, the next four years this answer will be Andover v. Forest Lake, with the winner winning state at least 1 time).
St. Cloud v. Roseau
No Eagan?
Wayzata?
NWC?
NWC? Is this another one of those 9th grade weighted expectations? They were 9-15-1 last year. Sartell isn't getting much respect; I understand they lost a really good goalie, but return a lot of scoring. St Cloud doesn't look to field a JV this year.

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Post by Mavs » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:04 pm

InigoMontoya wrote:
zambonidriver wrote:
jg2112 wrote:
Mavs wrote:Who will be in the section final games in each section? (predictions)
For AA:

Farmington v. Lakeville South
Eden Prairie v. Tonka
Eastview v. Apple Valley
Hill-Murray v. White Bear Lake
Centennial v. Maple Grove
Edina v. Cretin-Derham
Forest Lake v. Elk River (additional prediction: if sections remain the same, the next four years this answer will be Andover v. Forest Lake, with the winner winning state at least 1 time).
St. Cloud v. Roseau
No Eagan?
Wayzata?
NWC?
NWC? Is this another one of those 9th grade weighted expectations? They were 9-15-1 last year. Sartell isn't getting much respect; I understand they lost a really good goalie, but return a lot of scoring. St Cloud doesn't look to field a JV this year.
I was told that Sartell was handled easliy this weekend by Stillwater and Blake but beat Elk River? Someone that was there would have to verify. Never know how many JV players are playing so grain of salt as always with these scrimmages.

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Post by ZamboniGuy » Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:53 pm

Mavs wrote:
InigoMontoya wrote:
zambonidriver wrote:
jg2112 wrote:
Mavs wrote:Who will be in the section final games in each section? (predictions)
For AA:

Farmington v. Lakeville South
Eden Prairie v. Tonka
Eastview v. Apple Valley
Hill-Murray v. White Bear Lake
Centennial v. Maple Grove
Edina v. Cretin-Derham
Forest Lake v. Elk River (additional prediction: if sections remain the same, the next four years this answer will be Andover v. Forest Lake, with the winner winning state at least 1 time).
St. Cloud v. Roseau
No Eagan?
Wayzata?
NWC?
NWC? Is this another one of those 9th grade weighted expectations? They were 9-15-1 last year. Sartell isn't getting much respect; I understand they lost a really good goalie, but return a lot of scoring. St Cloud doesn't look to field a JV this year.
I was told that Sartell was handled easliy this weekend by Stillwater and Blake but beat Elk River? Someone that was there would have to verify. Never know how many JV players are playing so grain of salt as always with these scrimmages.
Not sure if Sartell was handled easily. I didn't watch their other games that closely. They did win 1-o over Elk River with 4 of Elk Rivers top players sitting that game including two D1 commits and there were at least three eighth graders playing. The coach was looking at where everyone will fit and I don't think he was too concerned with the scores.

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Post by Mavs » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:05 pm

ZamboniGuy wrote:
Mavs wrote:
InigoMontoya wrote:
zambonidriver wrote:
jg2112 wrote:
Mavs wrote:Who will be in the section final games in each section? (predictions)
For AA:

Farmington v. Lakeville South
Eden Prairie v. Tonka
Eastview v. Apple Valley
Hill-Murray v. White Bear Lake
Centennial v. Maple Grove
Edina v. Cretin-Derham
Forest Lake v. Elk River (additional prediction: if sections remain the same, the next four years this answer will be Andover v. Forest Lake, with the winner winning state at least 1 time).
St. Cloud v. Roseau
No Eagan?
Wayzata?
NWC?
NWC? Is this another one of those 9th grade weighted expectations? They were 9-15-1 last year. Sartell isn't getting much respect; I understand they lost a really good goalie, but return a lot of scoring. St Cloud doesn't look to field a JV this year.
I was told that Sartell was handled easliy this weekend by Stillwater and Blake but beat Elk River? Someone that was there would have to verify. Never know how many JV players are playing so grain of salt as always with these scrimmages.
Not sure if Sartell was handled easily. I didn't watch their other games that closely. They did win 1-o over Elk River with 4 of Elk Rivers top players sitting that game including two D1 commits and there were at least three eighth graders playing. The coach was looking at where everyone will fit and I don't think he was too concerned with the scores.
Exactly why the grain of salt...never know who is playing and who isn't and even lines are experimental, etc. Thanks for the actual update with knowledge, its appreciated. Coaches know what they have with the top returners and want to get looks at others.

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