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MNHockeyFan
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2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by MNHockeyFan » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:49 am

Let's Play Hockey pre-season polls are out. Any surprises?

GIRLS' HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY RANKINGS
From Let's Play Hockey
2018-19 PRESEASON

2018-19 HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS CLASS AA
RANK TEAM
1. Edina
2. Blake
3. Andover
4. Hill-Murray
5. Wayzata
6. Minnetonka
7. Forest Lake
8. Maple Grove
9. Eden Prairie
10. White Bear Lake
11. Brainerd/Little Falls
12. Eagan
13. Centennial
14. Blaine
15. Roseau
16. Cretin-Derham Hall
17. Farmington
18. Lakeville South
19. Mounds View
20. Grand Rapids/Greenway

2018-19 HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS CLASS A
RANK TEAM
1. Breck
2. Warroad
3. Alexandria
4. South St. Paul
5. Proctor/Hermantown
6. St. Paul United
7. Thief River Falls
8. Delano/Rockford
9. Duluth Marshall
10. East Grand Forks
11. Rochester Lourdes
12. Mahtomedi
13. Hutchinson
14. Hibbing/Chisholm
15. Mound Westonka
16. Fergus Falls
17. New Ulm
18. Red Wing
19. Cloquet-Esko-Carlton
20. River Lakes

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Re: 2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by j4241 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:54 am

I'm not sure if this is the right spot for it, but YHH just did a podcast dedicated to girls high school hockey, including some early picks:

https://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/966586

Worth a listen!

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Re: 2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by massalsa » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:23 am

Follow The Puck - Girls

FTP
Preseason Top 20
Class AA Girls

1 Blake
2 Edina
3 Andover
4 Brainerd/LF
5 Forest Lake
6 Hill-Murray
7 Wayzata
8 Roseau
9 Eagan
10 Maple Grv
11 Eden Prairie
12 Farmington
13 North Wright Co
14 Grand Rpds/Gwy
15 E Ridge
16 WBL
17 Centennial
18 M'tonka
19 L'ville So
20 Blaine

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Re: 2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by massalsa » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:23 am

Follow The Puck - Girls

FTP
Preseason Top 20
Class A Girls

1 Warroad
2 Breck
3 Roch Lourdes
4 Alexandria
5 Dul Marshall
6 Mahtomedi
7 TRF
8 St. Paul United
9 Holy Family
10 New Ulm
11 Fergus Falls
12 Faribault
13 Hutch
14 SSP
15 Marshall
16 Mankato East
17 Delano/R
18 Cloquet/E/C
19 Luverne
20 Willmar

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Re: 2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by MNHockeyFan » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:45 am

Some major differences between LPH and FTP!
(Brainerd/LF, Roseau, Tonka, Rochester Lourdes, etc.)

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Re: 2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by massalsa » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:30 am

Re: 2018-19 Season
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Post by massalsa » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:38 pm

1. Hornet
* Defending heavyweight champion. Lost some big guns but have some help on the way via Idaho and u15. One could argue that the 2 best new HS players in Minnesota will play for Edina this year. (First 2 games of the season vs Andover and Blake could be great games or just confirm to many that Edina is far and away the deepest and best HS team in the state of hockey)

2. Bears
* Lost 2 games last year, both to Edina. Returning their leading scorer and 3 of the top Jr forwards in the state and the HEAVY favorite to win Ms Hockey. A big ? at goalie. (Edina/WBL/Wayzata the 2nd week of the season should be interesting)

3. Huskies
* YOUNG. GUNS. Lost a goalie and top scorer but lots more firepower finally old enough to play in Anoka County. (Game #1 vs Edina and game #25 vs Blake)

4. Pioneers
* Supposedly lost their top goalie to Gentry but return have a bunch of solid returners and should make another appearance at Xcel.

5/6. Troj-ippers
* 4 kids at the top 66 Camp this summer in Maine (the most of any team). Can the 3 very high end D put up a bunch of points and hold it down in the D zone?
* Not tons of individual accolades other than Wisnewski (yet) in Trojan-land but a way better than average and pretty deep team with solid goaltending. It will be a battle for 2nd place in the Lake between these two. I think the edge goes to the Trojans.

Best of the rest in no particular order:

Eagan
Brainerd
White Bear Lake
FLAKE (despite losing their goalie to boys...if she plays girls they could be somewhat of a challenge to Andover in sections)

Mustang v Warrior in final for the Class A Title at Xcel in February and Breck gets 2nd state title. I believe that the Mustang could be a top 5 team in all the land by years end. Warroad has a nice nucleus of players coming back and have heard they picked up another piece that should put the puck in the net a lot this winter.

*****MN Girls HS hockey season games are 4 weeks away from tonight! Two big games that night...NWC v St Cloud and EDINA v ANDOVER!!!
From a month ago...

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Re: 2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by massalsa » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:30 pm

Lets hear some predictions and commentary from some of the regular crew and ALSO FROM THE VOYEURS!!!

GET INVOLVED IT IS SOMETHING INTERESTING TO THINK ABOUT AND DISCUSS!

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Re: 2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by nu2hockey » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:34 pm

massalsa wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:23 am
Follow The Puck - Girls

FTP
Preseason Top 20
Class AA Girls

1 Blake ( their roster losses are less than Edina, goalie questions)
2 Edina ( strong feeder system, goalie questions also)
3 Andover ( too high, lots of speculation until later in season)
4 Brainerd/LF ( will win a lot of games with that schedule)
5 Forest Lake ( ?, was Andover before Andover, yet high expectations haven't been met)
6 Hill-Murray ( replacing 9 players, last year's stories of hazing, harassment, and dysfunction, plus having co-head coaches this year, Too high)
7 Wayzata ( at times played well, not sure who scores for them)
8 Roseau ( probably better than people think, they seem to always be well coached)
9 Eagan ( team depended so much on one player last year, now gone)
10 Maple Grv ( lots of kids, may be a bit of a rebuild)
I wouldn't be surprised if 4 of these teams aren't in the top ten,(HM, Flake,Eagan,MG) at year's end,but, winning lots of games against weak schedule tends to keep teams rated higher than they should be..I don't see a juggernaut anywhere,but, Blake and Edina should be 2 steps ahead of everyone else...provided the goalies perform..

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Re: 2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by TTpuckster » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:17 pm

MNHockeyFan wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:45 am
Some major differences between LPH and FTP!
(Brainerd/LF, Roseau, Tonka, Rochester Lourdes, etc.)
And EGF? :?
What is a Green Wave anyway?

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Re: 2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by jg2112 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:06 am

I understand the aim of the MSHSL is participation and not balanced competition, but they're undercutting the argument for the current girls' hockey sections with what they've done for football and the knockout tournament.

I think the MSHSL is leaving a lot of money on the table by not going to a straightforward tournament knockout format for AA. There are 65 AA teams, just move one team down (looking at you Irondale) and use the KRACH rankings to seed the teams. This year would likely lead to a final four at State of Edina, Blake, Andover, and Wayzata. I don't see a downside to that.

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Re: 2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by bodyup88 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:41 am

Probably makes too much sense to do it. You would have mostly metro teams but would have to account for travel to/from some of the northern teams, particularly Roseau - at least 5 hours from the twin cities.

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Re: 2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by O-townClown » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:52 am

jg2112 wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:06 am
I think the MSHSL is leaving a lot of money on the table by not going to a straightforward tournament knockout format for AA. There are 65 AA teams, just move one team down (looking at you Irondale) and use the KRACH rankings to seed the teams. This year would likely lead to a final four at State of Edina, Blake, Andover, and Wayzata. I don't see a downside to that.
I could see if it the bottom 32 go first and 16 receive a bye and the top 16 a double bye. I have no interst in seeing Edina or Hill-Murray face * fill in the blank random bottom AA team *
Be kind. Rewind.

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Re: 2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by bodyup88 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:03 pm

What difference does it make? They're already rolling through their first opponent in the first round of their current sections. Enough with the double bye BS. You can thank the Big East basketball folks for that silly idea.

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Re: 2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by massalsa » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:43 pm

O-townClown wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:52 am

I could see if it the bottom 32 go first and 16 receive a bye and the top 16 a double bye. I have no interst in seeing Edina or Hill-Murray face * fill in the blank random bottom AA team *
I think something like this could work with reseeding the teams that make the section finals. Maybe look to host a state round of 16 games for both AA and A at the D1 representatives other than UM. Bemidji/SC/Kato/UMD. Then host the State Semi's at ridder/X whatever the MSHSL needs/wants.

An opportunity for 8 more teams from AA and A to play at a college rink and have a cool "state type experience" on a weekday night. They could go the route of D1 women and make some travel modifications for Warroad to not play Lourdes in Mankato or Luverne to not play in Duluth or Bemidji. The losers would not make it to X/Ridder but would be way cooler than playing at Parade or Red Wing or Forest Lake...

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Re: 2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by massalsa » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:16 pm

If Blake loses to Edina then Andover could/should be the new #1.

UNLESS...Blake wins by a few goals and then loses to Wayzata by a few goals...

Andover could be #1 for a long time if their goaltending and D stays strong. They absolutely will score a lot of goals but could run into problems against way above average goalies (Stoterau), great D (tonka), or well balanced teams like MG or Blake during the holiday tourney or Breck right after)

What then!?! Wayzata looks STRONG so far 2 games in.

Side note...anyone see this boxscore?

https://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/game/s ... er=4366387

Shots 58-4. Nikki Harnett...so fun to watch.

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Re: 2018-19 Rankings & Polls

Post by MNHockeyFan » Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:06 am

Let's Play Hockey 2018-19 HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS (November 15)

CLASS AA
1. Andover
2. Edina
3. Blake
4. Hill-Murray
5. Wayzata
6. Forest Lake
7. Minnetonka
8. Maple Grove
9. Eden Prairie
10. White Bear Lake
11. Brainerd/Little Falls
12. Blaine
13. Eagan
14. Roseau
15. Cretin-Derham Hall
16. Grand Rapids/Greenway
17. Centennial
18. Shakopee
19. Farmington
20. Burnsville


CLASS A
1. Breck
2. Warroad
3. Proctor/Hermantown
4. St. Paul United
5. Alexandria
6. South St. Paul
7. Thief River Falls
8. Delano/Rockford
9. East Grand Forks
10. Duluth Marshall
11. Rochester Lourdes
12. Mahtomedi
13. Hutchinson
14. Hibbing/Chisholm
15. Mound Westonka
16. Fergus Falls
17. Cloquet-Esko-Carlton
18. River Lakes
19. New Ulm
20. Red Wing

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