2018-19 KRACH RANK - MGHCA WEBSITE - Updated 2/24 (8098) - FINAL

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2018-19 KRACH RANK - MGHCA WEBSITE - Updated 2/24 (8098) - FINAL

Post by ghshockeyfan » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:44 pm

The KRACH rankings for MN Girls' HS Hockey will be available on the MGHCA website starting Sun 11/18.

http://www.bgoski.com (forward link)

http://www.mghca.com/page/show/427504-krach-rankings (direct link)

The final rankings for the past 16 seasons will also be archived there in addition to the most current season's rankings.
ghshockeyfan wrote:Main website: http://www.bgoski.com/krach
See MN Hockey Hub for rankings and more info.:
http://www.mghca.com/page/show/427504-krach-rankings
1) This only counts games vs. MSHSL varsity teams.
2) This only uses scores entered on the Girls' Hockey Hub/MGHCA website:
http://www.mghca.com
To enter a missing score contact your team rep. Each team should have a person responsible for updating this information (coach, parent, manager, etc.) - you can also email: scores@tstmedia.com - see: http://www.mngirlshockeyhub.com/page/sh ... mit-scores (they really want a scoresheet image though)
3) For past years' ranking and further explanation:
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=36013 (2017-18)
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35312 (2016-17)
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=34395 (2015-16)
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33192 (2014-15)
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31794 (2013-14)
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29597 (2012-13)
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=27266 (2011-12)
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24859 (2010-11)
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21598 (2009-10)
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18448 (2008-09)
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7973 (2006-07)
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4348 (2005-06)
4) Most Recent Ranking Links:
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OVERALL:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA.htm
CLASS AA:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA.htm
CLASS A:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A.htm
SECTION:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC.htm
SOS (Strength-Of-Schedule) is at:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS.htm
==========================================
5) Past Ranking Links for 2018-19:
==========================================
OVERALL:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_20181118.htm (2018-19 INITIAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_20180225.htm (2017-18 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_20170226.htm (2016-17 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_20160220.htm (2015-16 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_20150224.htm (2014-15 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_20140223.htm (2013-14 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_20130302.htm (2012-13 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_20120226.htm (2011-12 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_20110227.htm (2010-11 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_20100228.htm (2009-10 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_2008-9_FINAL.htm
***2007-8_FINAL (No KRACH)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_S_2006-7_FINAL.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_S_2005-6_FINAL.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_2004-5_FINAL.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_2003-4_FINAL.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_S_2002-3_FINAL.htm
pre-KRACH OA rankings:
http://www.minnhock.com/ps2003g.htm (2002-3 FINAL)
http://www.minnhock.com/ps2002g.htm (2001-2 FINAL)
http://www.minnhock.com/ps2001g.htm (2000-1 FINAL)
http://www.minnhock.com/ps2000g.htm (1999-2000 FINAL)
http://www.minnhock.com/ps1999g.htm (1998-9 FINAL)
http://www.minnhock.com/archives.htm (General Pre-KRACH Archives)
CLASS AA:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA_20181118.htm (2018-19 INITIAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA_20180225.htm (2017-18 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA_20170226.htm (2016-17 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA_20160220.htm (2015-16 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA_20150224.htm (2014-15 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA_20140223.htm (2013-14 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA_20130302.htm (2012-13 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA_20120226.htm (2011-12 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA_20110227.htm (2010-11 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA_20100228.htm (2009-10 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA_2008-9_FINAL.htm
***2007-8_FINAL (No KRACH) - instead see http://www.minnesota-scores.net/classqr ... 10&class=3
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_S_2006-7_FINAL.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_S_2005-6_FINAL.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_2004-5_FINAL.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_2003-4_FINAL.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_S_2002-3_FINAL.htm
***No pre-KRACH Class rankings
CLASS A:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A_20181118.htm (2018-19 INITIAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A_20180225.htm (2017-18 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A_20170226.htm (2016-17 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A_20160220.htm (2015-16 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A_20150224.htm (2014-15 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A_20140223.htm (2013-14 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A_20130302.htm (2012-13 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A_20120226.htm (2011-12 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A_20110227.htm (2010-11 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A_20100228.htm (2009-10 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A_2008-9_FINAL.htm
***2007-8_FINAL (No KRACH) - instead see http://www.minnesota-scores.net/classqr ... 10&class=2
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_S_2006-7_FINAL.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_S_2005-6_FINAL.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_2004-5_FINAL.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_2003-4_FINAL.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_S_2002-3_FINAL.htm
***No pre-KRACH Class rankings
SECTION:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC_20181118.htm (2018-19 INITIAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC_20180225.htm (2017-18 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC_20170226.htm (2016-17 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC_20160220.htm (2015-16 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC_20150224.htm (2014-15 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC_20140223.htm (2013-14 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC_20130302.htm (2012-13 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC_20120226.htm (2011-12 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC_20110227.htm (2010-11 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC_20100228.htm (2009-10 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SEC_2008-9_FINAL.htm
***2007-8_FINAL (No KRACH)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_S_2006-7_FINAL.htm
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_S_2005-6_FINAL.htm
***2004-5_FINAL (No KRACH by Section)
***2003-4_FINAL (No KRACH by Section)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_C_S_2002-3_FINAL.htm
***No pre-KRACH Section rankings
SOS (Strength-Of-Schedule) is at:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS_20181118.htm (2018-19 INITIAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS_20180225.htm (2017-18 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS_20170226.htm (2016-17 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS_20160220.htm (2015-16 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS_20150224.htm (2014-15 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS_20140223.htm (2013-14 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS_20130302.htm (2012-13 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS_20120226.htm (2011-12 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS_20110227.htm (2010-11 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS_20100228.htm (2009-10 FINAL)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS_2008-9_FINAL.htm
***2007-8_FINAL (No KRACH)
***2006-7_FINAL (No KRACH SOS)
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_SOS_2005-6_FINAL.htm
***2004-5_FINAL (No KRACH SOS)
***2003-4_FINAL (No KRACH SOS)
***2002-3_FINAL (No KRACH SOS)
***No pre-KRACH SOS rankings
==========================================

31 Dec 2006 15:56
ghshockeyfan wrote:I get asked a lot about the KRACH method of ranking, related issues, etc. as posted at:

http://www.esportsdesk.com/leagues/fron ... entID=1830
&
http://bgoski.com/rank/

Here are some key links for more info. if anyone wants it:

http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic. ... =6&stop=10
http://p100.ezboard.com/fmnhsfrm19.show ... 9&stop=149
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7973


USCHO (Claims that this system is best for SOS concerns):
www.uscho.com/rankings/?data=krach
www.uscho.com/FAQs/?data=krach

Ken Butler's original KRACH explanation page (with examples):
www.mscs.dal.ca/~butler/krachexp.htm
***This seems to be the best explanation...


John Whelan has a more detailed mathematical analysis of KRACH.:
http://www.slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/tbrw.cgi?krach
System Comparison of College Hockey...
http://www.slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/tbrw.cgi?krach
A Proposed Modification to the NCAA Selection Criteria:
http://www.slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/tbrw.cgi?krach

SiouxSports.com's independently calculated KRACH ratings (normalized so North Dakota's KRACH rating is 100.):
www.siouxsports.com/hocke.../krach.php
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Re: 2018-19 KRACH RANK - MGHCA WEBSITE - Updated 11/18 (0)

Post by JJhockeySS » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:45 am

Holy Family is now in Class A

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Post by ghshockeyfan » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:38 am

JJhockeySS wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:45 am
Holy Family is now in Class A
I thought so too... but then MSHSL HF school site and the section assignments still showing AA. Maybe these are still in need of update.

https://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/newSectionAssignments.asp

https://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/schoolactpa ... actnum=460

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Post by ghshockeyfan » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:50 am

ghshockeyfan wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:38 am
JJhockeySS wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:45 am
Holy Family is now in Class A
I thought so too... but then MSHSL HF school site and the section assignments still showing AA. Maybe these are still in need of update.

https://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/newSectionAssignments.asp

https://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/schoolactpa ... actnum=460
But I also see the MSHSL isn't updated for St. Paul/Sibley Co-op either... Hmm...

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Re: 2018-19 KRACH RANK - MGHCA WEBSITE - Updated 11/18 (0)

Post by JJhockeySS » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:07 pm

My guess is they didn't update it. When HF/Waconia split, they both were eligible to play A hockey. I'm not sure what that means for which section they are in, but pretty certain HF is not in 2AA anymore.

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Post by ghshockeyfan » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:53 pm

Makes sense.

Interesting that Waconia is showing up alone in 2 A though.

Could HF have opted up after dissolving the coop?

Uncertain if a school can do so in this situation.

Looks like the rankings will need some changes with HF potentially and possibly also with henry sibley/ st paul coop and maybe even Waconia final placement.

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Re: 2018-19 KRACH RANK - MGHCA WEBSITE - Updated 11/18 (0)

Post by jg2112 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:56 pm

Holy Family is AA. I am 100% certain of this, and the program confirmed this in multiple Tweets on 11/7 to Follow the Puck.

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Re: 2018-19 KRACH RANK - MGHCA WEBSITE - Updated 11/18 (0)

Post by Well Driller » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:22 am

Holy Family is Section 2 AA per MSHSL.

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Post by ghshockeyfan » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:32 am

Will be leaving HF in 2AA for now.
Waconia also reflected in MSHSL currently as 2A
St. Paul/Henry Sibley Co-op is the only uncertain one - if remains in 4A or bumps up to 4AA not sure per MSHSL





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Re: 2018-19 KRACH RANK - MGHCA WEBSITE - Updated 12/9 (1630)

Post by MNHockeyFan » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:38 pm

When is the last time a Class A team was No. 1 in the Overall a full month into the season?

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Post by ghshockeyfan » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:53 pm

MNHockeyFan wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:38 pm
When is the last time a Class A team was No. 1 in the Overall a full month into the season?
2014 is about the most recent I can remember.

http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_20141226.htm

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Post by MNHockeyFan » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:03 pm

ghshockeyfan wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:53 pm
2014 is about the most recent I can remember.

http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_20141226.htm
And the differential back then was just a little more than a point vs. a near 40 point difference in your latest rank here.

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Post by ghshockeyfan » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:12 pm

MNHockeyFan wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:03 pm
ghshockeyfan wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:53 pm
2014 is about the most recent I can remember.

http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_20141226.htm
And the differential back then was just a little more than a point vs. a near 40 point difference in your latest rank here.
Fair point.

I remember that being fairly controversial.

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Post by massalsa » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:21 pm

It is remarkable and it appears that they will hold this spot until much later in the season (although the 1-0 win against SSP was not very convincing). They have 2 games against Roseau (KRACH #10) and then no other opponents in the top 20 until the state tourney. Brainerd could give them a game but they are not ranked in the top 20 for AA.

Is there any possible way they lose that spot until if they remain undefeated regardless of how Andover/Edina/Blake and others finish the season in AA?

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Post by MNHockeyFan » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:42 pm

massalsa wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:21 pm
Is there any possible way they lose that spot until if they remain undefeated regardless of how Andover/Edina/Blake and others finish the season in AA?
I was wondering the same, whether one or more could surpass Warroad should they have a string of more impressive wins over high-rated teams, while the Warriors roll over all the unranked teams they're supposed to beat. My guess is yes, if that scenario were to play out the Warriors would NOT hold onto No. 1 in the Overall.

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Post by ghshockeyfan » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:07 pm

Strength of schedule is interesting here.

I need to upload again to MGHCA but the last numbers I saw indicated the avg rank of warroad opponents is 48. Edina is 24 (toughest in state).

I think we see some undefeated teams below others with losses even now, so, the strength of schedule, in addition to record, will play a factor as it should.

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Post by MNHockeyFan » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:09 pm

MNHockeyFan wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:42 pm
I was wondering the same, whether one or more could surpass Warroad should they have a string of more impressive wins over high-rated teams, while the Warriors roll over all the unranked teams they're supposed to beat. My guess is yes, if that scenario were to play out the Warriors would NOT hold onto No. 1 in the Overall.
It took a lot less time than I thought it might...Warroad now ranked 3rd in the Overall.

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