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j4241
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Labor Day tournaments

Post by j4241 » Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:43 am

An annual rite of passage for girls high school hockey - the labor day tourneys. What used to just be NAHA has now splintered into two events over the last couple years, as Kathy Pippy took advantage of an ownership transition at NAHA and resulting turmoil to start a competing tournament in Pittsburgh. She has been pretty successful, in the sense that she draws a much tougher field than NAHA does (with Little Caesars, Jr. Flyers, Jr. Penguins, Mission, Mid Fairfield, East Coast Wizards all choosing Pitt - pretty much the only strong team (not from MN) that plays NAHA is NAHA). There are Canadian teams at both events for the first time in awhile - should be interesting to see how they do. These are both marquee national recruiting events. Winny has chosen not to take sides, so sends teams to both.

NAHA (https://www.winter-hawks.org/page/show/ ... ament-2021 - the link says '21, but it takes you to the '22 page):
U19: JWC Black (primarily '05 '23s - most of the team that won U16 nationals - heavy overlap with Tradition elite league team this fall), JWC White
U16: JWC White
U14: OS Black

Pitt (https://labor-day-girls-fest.premiericeprospects.com):
U19: JWC Black (primarily '04 '23s - most of the team that lost a 1 goal game at U19 nationals to the eventual champion - heavy overlap with Empowers Performance elite league team), JWC White, Northern Elite Green
U17: JWC, Northern Elite Green, Northern Elite White
U14: JWC White, Northern Elite Green

I would expect Minnesota teams to do well at all levels.

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Re: Labor Day tournaments

Post by bodyup88 » Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:05 am

You must be in the inner circle of the Brodt/Brown group. Nice of them to post the "Girls" Elite" League rosters for the rest of us. The Boys have been posted for 6 weeks. Some things never change.

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Re: Labor Day tournaments

Post by j4241 » Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:17 am

I feel your pain. Not inner circle, but know a few things and just trying to share a bit of information for fans of the girls game.

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Re: Labor Day tournaments

Post by bodyup88 » Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:30 am

Thank you. Too bad Brodt/Brown group doesn't feel the same.

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Re: Labor Day tournaments

Post by PhunnsieMcHockeyDad » Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:49 pm

Wow, this board has some juice in the hockey world. Elite League rosters are now posted...at least the locals.

Interesting that the Tradition Mortgage team - which has already won the league and will represent MN in the 19U Division National Tournament in the Spring - only has 8 forwards rostered. I'm surprised St. Martin didn't get placed with that group...she's on the MSP Magazine team that has already won the league and will represent MN in the 16U Division at the National Tournament in the Spring.

https://www.girlshselitehockey.com/stat ... n_id=20204

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Re: Labor Day tournaments

Post by j4241 » Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:45 pm

The short roster for Tradition is puzzling, but I’m guessing avar, Leonard and Sandberg are the missing parties. Sandberg is hurt, not sure about the other two. Empowers us missing boerger and brown from the Andover line.

Assuming I’m right about the eventual full rosters, I don’t think Tradition wins u19. They might, but empowers is better in goal, the top end forwards are better, and traditional is probably slightly better at d, on average. Regardless, should be very good hockey when they play. Both should be better than shattuck, in my opinion.

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Re: Labor Day tournaments

Post by j4241 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:54 am

Not sure why, but the NAHA tournament site hasn't posted any data.

On the Pittsburgh side, teams from Minnesota were:

U14
JWC - 4-2 (runner up, gold)
Northern Green - 1-3-1

Notable performances:
JWC - Pohl (Hill-Murray), Chatleian (Centennial), Sander (?), Addie Wethington (Blake), Semling (?), Kimbrel (Orono) among event leaders in scoring.
NG - Rupp (Bemidji) lead team in scoring.

U17
JWC - 5-1 (champions, gold)
Northern Green - 4-1
Northern White - 2-3

Notable performances:
JWC - Christensen (Andover) among event leaders in scoring. Hemp (Tonka) outstanding in goal in championship game - 32 save shutout in 1-0 win.
NG - Holm (Moorhead), Lindaman (Duluth Marshall) among event leaders in scoring.
NW - Erickson (Roseau) lead team in scoring

U19
JWC black - 4-2 (champions, silver)
JWC white - 3-2
Northern Green - 2-3

Notable performances:
JWC-B - Morrison (Blake), Sajevic (Gentry), Broz (Blake) and Shipley (Maple Grove) among the U19 event leaders. Corniea (Edina) with 28 save shut out against Flyers in silver championship.
JWC-W - Molly Ryan (Tonka) among event leaders in scoring.
NG - Bartz (Fargo) among event leaders in scoring.

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Re: Labor Day tournaments

Post by InThePipes » Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:59 am

j4241 wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:54 am
Not sure why, but the NAHA tournament site hasn't posted any data.

You have to go into GameSheet, it's all there, but a bit of a pain to extract (and it's too nice of a day for me to attempt that today)

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Re: Labor Day tournaments

Post by j4241 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:23 am

Ahh! Thank you - they publish "standings" on the main website with links to stats, etc, but they're empty. Found it now - standby...

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Re: Labor Day tournaments

Post by j4241 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:56 am

At NAHA (tier 1 only):

U14
OS - 6-0 (champions)

Notable performances:
Bakker (Maple Grove), Manion (Procter) among event leaders in scoring. Weiland (LVN) with 2 GA, and Prosser (Rogers) with 0 GA for the weekend.

U16
JWC White - 5-1

Notable performances:
Horton (Edina), Mack (Tonka), Gray (BSM) among event leaders in scoring.

U19
JWC Black - 4-1
JWC White - 4-1

Notable performances:
JWC Black - Lindsay (Tonka), Retrum (Maple Grove) among event leaders in scoring.
JWC White - Distad (Tonka), Puppe (Northfield) among event leaders in scoring. Strom (Maple Grove) and Peterson (Breck) gave up a total of 5 goals on the wekeend.

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Re: Labor Day tournaments

Post by j4241 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:17 am

Just for reference on tourney quality:

NAHA
# of teams with (+, -) double digit goal differentials:
14s (2, 1) (OS +22)
16 (4, 5) (JWC +10)
19 (7, 6) (JWC Black +10 and JWC White +14)

Pitt
14 (5, 2) (JWC +16)
17 (5, 2) (JWC +11 and NG +10)
19 (2, 2) (JWC Black at +16)

From this stat (which I made up, but seemed like a reasonable way to look at it), looks like the 14s may have been more competitive at NAHA, and the OS team just steamrolled through it. The 16/17s was a bit more balanced at Pitt, and Hemp's goaltending (and the team D) led a solid but unspectacular offense to victory, and the 19s field at Pitt was much stronger than NAHA.

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Re: Labor Day tournaments

Post by j4241 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:36 pm

In terms of overall performance, JWC teams went:

14s
10-2

16/17s
10-2

19s
15-6

Overall
35-10

Minnesota represented itself pretty well

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Re: Labor Day tournaments

Post by headsupsticksdown » Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:17 pm

j4241 wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:56 am
At NAHA (tier 1 only):

U14
OS - 6-0 (champions)

Notable performances:
Bakker (Maple Grove), Manion (Procter) among event leaders in scoring. Weiland (LVN) with 2 GA, and Prosser (Rogers) with 0 GA for the weekend.

Not sure if you meant Proctor as in the Mirage, but Taylee is from Hermantown and still skates with the boys, but figure she will be moving back to the Mirage after this year...

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Re: Labor Day tournaments

Post by j4241 » Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:39 pm

Thank you! Was guessing on high schools for some of the younger kids - appreciate getting it cleared up (and the spelling).

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Re: Labor Day tournaments

Post by headsupsticksdown » Tue Sep 06, 2022 2:24 pm

j4241 wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:39 pm
Thank you! Was guessing on high schools for some of the younger kids - appreciate getting it cleared up (and the spelling).
Absolutely no worries; thank you for pushing these updates. I only commented as I know the Proctor/Hermantown discussion can generate a ton of responses. :D

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Re: Labor Day tournaments

Post by j4241 » Tue Sep 06, 2022 3:24 pm

Haha! We all love our teams… I welcome the PH dads to chime in!

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