school coaching qualifications

Nostalgic Nerd · Post by **Nostalgic Nerd** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:54 pm

Generally speaking, what do school administrations look for in resumes? Or what minimum experience do you need? "Dream as if you'll live forever; Live as if you'll die today." --James Dean

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:11 pm

I think it depends a lot on what a school is looking for and how many applicants they get. I'm sure they'd like to see a coaching/teaching background/experience, specificaly with girls/HS hockey. I think that they will always look for qualified females as they should. My guess is that they'd like to see some post HS/higher level playing experience, but remember that good players don't always make good coaches... (sometimes quite the opposite is true I hear) A coaching certificate would be good to have. Certification in CPR/first aid would be good too. Apparent enthusiasm for the position, and understanding of the challenges of the position, capability to bring in assistants as needed (if not in place), etc. I've seen some interesting interviews over the years. That's the part that never stops amazing me. Panels of 10-15+ sometimes to interview a coach, but does the same thing happen for a teacher hiring??? And we complain about OE being athletically influenced - look at our society in general!

Nostalgic Nerd · Post by **Nostalgic Nerd** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:21 pm

I really do not have a strong desire to have a teaching background other than as a coach. Am I out of luck? "Dream as if you'll live forever; Live as if you'll die today." --James Dean

Nostalgic Nerd · Post by **Nostalgic Nerd** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:26 pm

Also, what might the requirements of the coaching certificate be? "Dream as if you'll live forever; Live as if you'll die today." --James Dean

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:27 pm

Nope - coaching alone in this day and age will do it. You can get certified through the MSHSL now I believe (a class) and some have these certifications or a more advanced "degree" through their undergraduate/college work I believe? I did mine as an undergrad in college, so I'm not certain as to what the MSHSL regquirements/offerings are like??? Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... ckeyfan</A> at: 3/15/06 3:28 pm

maroonhockey · Post by **maroonhockey** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:07 pm

Coon Rapids has an opening for a head boys hockey coach. You do not have to be a teacher in this district to be a coach.

Nostalgic Nerd · Post by **Nostalgic Nerd** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:13 pm

Can you give me a brief overview of what your class covered? "Dream as if you'll live forever; Live as if you'll die today." --James Dean

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:19 pm

Thre were a number of sports theory courses, one on hockey specifically taught by the hockey coach at the university. There also was CPR/First Aid and some physical education related stuff, weight training/ploys, nutrition, etc. More stuff was covered for teachers. I wasn't a teacher bound student, so I didn't have to take all that stuff. I woudl have likely taken more, but I was a double major outside of the coaching/teaching stuff. I'm not certain what the MSHSL classes cover, but I'm guessing some of the similar things - but maybe with more of a coaching specific flavor??? Has anyone done the certification through the MSHSL courses?

Nostalgic Nerd · Post by **Nostalgic Nerd** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:50 pm

I would have to think there is some public relations stuff included. "Dream as if you'll live forever; Live as if you'll die today." --James Dean

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:11 pm

You're likely right.

Nostalgic Nerd · Post by **Nostalgic Nerd** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:03 am

My situation is I do not have any experience in hockey outside of what I've been watching at games or on tv. I'm also at a disadvantage by not having any actual hockey playing experience, but in the long run I'm pretty sure that isn't necessarily the end all. I'm assuming the short term goal would be to start out small as an assistant at a local playground, etc. and gain experience working my way up the ranks if you will. What is your recommendation? Also, what books and literature might I look for on understanding hockey, coaching, and anything else along these lines? My keyword search didn't come up with much. Do you happen to have any direct links to information on coaching certificates? I will search the MSHSL. "Dream as if you'll live forever; Live as if you'll die today." --James Dean

Nostalgic Nerd · Post by **Nostalgic Nerd** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:28 am

This looks pretty good: <a href="http://mshsl.org/mshsl/nfcep.asp">mshsl ...  "Dream as if you'll live forever; Live as if you'll die today." --James Dean

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:21 pm

My #1 suggestion is to become a volunteer assistant with an area team and get a feel for what this entails. You'll have to see if your background meshes with what you see as being needed to execute the job. From there, you could also take the coursework and do the formal training through USA/MN H and also the MSHSL, etc.

Nostalgic Nerd · Post by **Nostalgic Nerd** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:23 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>From there, you could also take the coursework and do the formal training through USA/MN H and also the MSHSL, etc.<hr></blockquote> How does the USA/MN H differ from MSHSL? "Dream as if you'll live forever; Live as if you'll die today." --James Dean

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:16 pm

There is a Coaching Certification Program that is needed for Youth coaches. That would be good to get too. Info. is available on the USA H website @ <a href="http://www.usahockey.com/coaching/main_ ...  <a href="http://www.usahockey.com/coaching/main_ ...  <a href="http://www.usahockey.com/coaching/clini ...

Nostalgic Nerd · Post by **Nostalgic Nerd** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:55 am

Is the youth coaching certificate seperate from the certificate through the MSHSL? Also, how do the hockey levels break down (1-5, etc.)? "Dream as if you'll live forever; Live as if you'll die today." --James Dean

upucker · Post by **upucker** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:03 pm

The certificates are different, But having the USA Hockey certificate may have some merit. Good communication skills are a plus. I have also heard that a minor in Psychology and a Major in Political science can be very helpful.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:06 pm

This is true!<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> Also, whatever you do, don't post on this board and reveal your identity!<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... ckeyfan</A> at: 3/20/06 10:07 pm

Nostalgic Nerd · Post by **Nostalgic Nerd** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:32 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Also, whatever you do, don't post on this board and reveal your identity!<hr></blockquote> Now that wasn't directed towards me, was it!<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> "Dream as if you'll live forever; Live as if you'll die today." --James Dean

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:14 am

Nope - note to self as much as anything...<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek">

tnt99 · Post by **tnt99** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:23 pm

Nostalgic Nerd...you might have as good a chance at getting a high school coaching job as I would getting a position as an ER physician at HCMC...I watch a lot of ER and Grey's Anatomy too.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:43 am

I have to say that the best assistant coach I've ever had never played HS hockey. True student of the game, connected with the kids well, was able to adapt an understanding of systems from other sports, etc.

Nostalgic Nerd · Post by **Nostalgic Nerd** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:08 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Nostalgic Nerd...you might have as good a chance at getting a high school coaching job as I would getting a position as an ER physician at HCMC...I watch a lot of ER and Grey's Anatomy too.<hr></blockquote> The intention isn't to get a hs coaching position now. It's to see what I can do to get to that goal sometime down the line. I'm sure there is much much more that goes on in hockey that cannot be seen with the naked eye. "Dream as if you'll live forever; Live as if you'll die today." --James Dean

JJhockeySS · Post by **JJhockeySS** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:14 am

NN, My best coaching advice is to have thick skin. You haven't even started down the coaching road yet, and you have your first doubter/heckler! Enjoy these moments. If you love hockey, and can take the abuse, it is the greatest game on earth to coach and be a part of. I say you're off to a great start, it took me at least a full week of coaching before someone told me I didn't know what the heck I was doing, and I should give up! I'm jealous

JJhockeySS · Post by **JJhockeySS** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:59 am

There is lots of good advice here, and I think it's best to get involved as much as you can. Learn from other coaches, and be around the game as much as possible. Just because didn't grow up playing the game doesn't mean that you can't be involved and coach. Each coach has to know their strengths and weaknesses. Then surround themselves with people who excel in the areas they are deficient. If you know hands on hockey experience is an area that you will have trouble relating to the athletes, than you need to get someone on your staff that has that first hand experience. I know that the MSHSL and USA hockey are different. I believe that it is highly recommended that you need to be at least a level 3 USA hockey certified to be a HS coach. I don't think this has been strictly enforced in the past. There are a few coaches in the area who are Level 5. The levels are: Level 1: Beginner Level 2: Associate Level 3: Intermediate Level 4: Advanced Level 5: Master(requires a written thesis) If you are certified at level 4 or 5 you don't have to do the annual level 3 recertification training(which is now available on-line). I would highly recommend going to as many of these USA hockey trainings as possible, they are always well worth the time and $. Depending on what you are looking for I have also found the International Coaches Conference is a incredibly valuable experience. This is offered by Hockey Canada every other year, and their list of speakers is incredible. It always amazes me how NHL, & High level College Coaches, face many of the same issues that we face in the HS ranks. Info for the ICC which is hosted by Toronto this year can be found at: <a href="http://www.hockeycanada.ca/1/8/7/8/1/in ...  This can get expensive, but the hockey knowledge gained along with seeing a fine Canadian city can't be matched. I would also say they do a good job of partnering events to really show off their cities, and make the guests feel at home.

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