2006 Coaching Vacancies

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:26 am

Never too early to start the thread unfortunately...

JJhockeySS · Post by **JJhockeySS** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:23 pm

ttt, unfortunately it's that time of year again. Last year 25 jobs opened, I'd say that would be a good over/under amount. Let's hope this year we can decrease our turnover and stay under 25.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:23 pm

Each year I talk to a lot of coaches who I think just burn out. It's a lot of work and time they put in. We all know that they don't do it for the $, and thank goodness we can rely on their love for the game and working with the kids to keep most coaches involved.

Rocketwrister · Post by **Rocketwrister** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:54 pm

Your right GHS---no one does it for the money; but a lot of coaches do get burnt out. It's a tough gig now a days...you don't see a coach who stays for 20 years anymore. Heck, 10 years is a reach. www.rebelhockey.com

sghfan · Post by **sghfan** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:58 pm

I know a job that no one has kept more than 2 years.....

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:18 pm

Amen, amen - 10 years? That's an amazing run - and we only have 2 G HS coaches that have done that to my knowledge (with the same program) - Palquist of SSP & Scanlan of Apple Valley (I believe)...

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:20 pm

The 2 yrs part doesn't surprise me in this day and age. I think that it's not as much a product of lack of desire to stay for some as it is lack of appreciation and support. I've seen a number of coaches move around to various programs but stay in coaching.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:15 pm

Copied the wrong one by mistake... <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"> Title: Head Varsity Girls Hockey Coach School: Mankato East High School Send Resumes to: Todd Waterbury- Activities Director 2600 Hoffman Road Mankato, MN 56002-8726 For More Info: Todd Waterbury 507-387-5655 x 232 twater1@isd77.k12.mn.us Deadline: May 1, 2006 Start: August 14, 2006 Description: Head coach of the varsity team. Also will be responsible for overseeing the program grades 7-12. There is teaching positions available with coaching job. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... ckeyfan</A> at: 3/6/06 8:19 pm

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:18 pm

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ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:19 pm

Title: Head Girls' Hockey Coach School: Saint Louis Park High School Send Resumes to: Andrew Ewald- 6425 West 33rd Street St. Louis Park, MN 55426-3498 For More Info: Andrew Ewald 952-928-6118 ewald.andy@slpschools.org Deadline: Start: 10/06 Description:

D5Dreamer · Post by **D5Dreamer** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:54 am

Bob Driver is stepping down (so he has told people) as Buffalo's head coach. The JV coach is also giving it up. Both are leaving for the right reasons (Driver...four young kids who are becoming busier in youth hockey...Brophy has nine years under his belt and needs some time off).

Rocketwrister · Post by **Rocketwrister** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:16 pm

Hasn't Morris been at EP for like 11 years? www.rebelhockey.com

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:12 pm

No. An assistant has been there that long maybe? Morris was at Totino Grace pre-2001-2 I believe?

mnhock · Post by **mnhock** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:32 pm

What's up with the Tennis posting?

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:19 pm

Copied the wrong one by mistake... <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D">

nutz4puck · Post by **nutz4puck** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:35 pm

Let's get this one ttt so we don't end up with page 30 of the 2005 vacancies page.

nottachance · Post by **nottachance** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:16 pm

From the 2005 thread "heard a prominent west metro job will be posting soon, it's sad to see that the coaching carousel will be starting soon." that would be the coach at Wayzata hanging it up after this season, or so I heard

hockeyparent1 · Post by **hockeyparent1** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:54 pm

Why is this supposed hockey coach quiting?

nottachance · Post by **nottachance** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:58 am

It is no secret in Wayzata that this team has peaked. Good coaches know when to make their exit. Youth program is large in numbers but not winning much. They won't contribute too much in future yrs. Lost players each year to privates and now oe too. The decline is evident.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:19 am

What is interesting is that some of the programs that have developed the most G hockey players haven't always been able to retain all their top talent (probably due to the economic affluence of the people they serve) and also many have developed a ton of above average talent but not as many Lake Placid like kids that SCORE that you need to lead a team to state in this day and age. An example is that I believe Lee made a HUGE difference for Wayzata. This gave them that "finisher" that they needed, and that made all the difference. Had a player like Lee went to Edina or EP instead of Wayzata, whichever team that type of player would have went to would have been your section champion in 6 the year before last. I see a lot of similarities between the Wayzata, and Edina programs with AMAZINGLY deep teams with very talented kids, but not a ton of scoring/finishers. Also, it is interesting how many think that there is a direct correlation between a top 12, 14 team and then a top HS team down the road. Not always the case. U12 doesn’t = U14 doesn't = JV doesn't = V championships, etc. Some that win youth championships are spoiled coming into the higher levels. It just doesn't usually happen every year at every level! Personally, I think Wayzata is very fortunate to have the coaches they have. They are outstanding. As too are the HS coaches in the other youth hockey factories in the cities in Edina (Stephan) and Park CG (E. Darwitz). In a day and age where coaches are expendable to many, I don't think some realize how lucky they are to have good coaches until they are gone! Ignorant unappreciative attacking people drive more great coaches from the game than anything else I believe - no matter how thick skinned coaches are, they do get tired of the drama.

JJhockeySS · Post by **JJhockeySS** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:48 am

Title: &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Varsity Girls Hockey Head Coach School: &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Burnsville High School Send Resumes to: Jim Rohlik- Athletic Director 600 E Hwy 13 Burnsville, MN 55337-1613 &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp For More Info: Jim Rohlik 952-707-2111 jrohlik@burnsville.k12.mn.us Deadline: &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Start: &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp 2006-2007 Description:

JJhockeySS · Post by **JJhockeySS** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:53 am

That's a big loss for Girls Hockey, Tom has done so much for the game of hockey, and has been a great addition the G's HS ranks that past couple seasons.

hockeyparent1 · Post by **hockeyparent1** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:20 pm

Who said a good "Coach" is good cause he knows when to Leave? That is absurd! I love the so called "Arm Chair QB's". I like many good "Coaches" have had the fortunate misfortune to have coached less talented teams to undefeated seasons while other so called loaded teams were beat by the less fortunate or less talented team, it is all in positive motivation. I do not think at all, a "Coach" is considered good because he knows when to exit a program. On the contrary it seems a little CHICKEN " ". Let's do take Wayzata for example since this is where the comments were made. Did the "Coach" leaving ever watch the girls at the 12U 2002 or 15U 2003 level before they entered High School to see what the talent level will be, at least 90% of the parents never saw he or she there. The answer in this case is NO! Do you realize that the 9-10 main players involved in Wayzata winning 2 State Championships at the YOUTH Level are returning this year and next year, or that 2-3 of them were leading point getters at the youth level, or the returning Goalie next year is the same Goalie whos name is on those State Championship Plaques, all the above made it as a TEAM to 5 State Youth appearances and were very successful each year. Do you knew that, I think you probably didn't and either did the coaches. The talent is there you just need to know how to bring it out in the Girls. You see a good "Coach" sticks it out with a team or program reguardless of what the talent level is. We all know Girls mature and perform at different levels especially when entering High School. This is why a good "Coaches" do not leave when not having a so called star or stars. Stars can only take you so far, constant coaching shift after shift to each player as they come off the ice and team coaching makes winners. For Example only don't get defensive: Let's see where was EP for example at the youth level. When Wayzata won State at the 12 U level or when Wayzata won State at the 15 U Level, they were no where to be found remember, but after open enrollments and transfers and girls or players simply maturing EP had an extrordinary team that went undefeated this High School Season, some say the best team ever. See my point Girls mature and perform together at different age levels, things change, people move, open enroll, or simply just get better, it happens. It does matter what is done in the youth program as we all know High School is a different beast. Most good youth programs should have good High School teams. For example look at Edina, SSp, Stillwater just to name a few. So lets not be so quick to judge a program or call a "Coach' GOOD JUST BECAUSE when he leaves a team BEFORE HAVING A PROJECTED LESS SUCCESSFUL SEASON, we all wish we had that crystal ball. Do you think it was right to leave the team without telling ALL his underclassmen, or just by telling the Juniors. If this is a team sport, than why was the whole team not told the coach was leaving? Seems questionable doesn't it. While constant positive teaching and motivation can make the most average players perform like "State Champions" together, We all have seen it happen.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:08 pm

Did the coach(es) cite a reason for her/his/their departure? Do you have issues with the coach(es) besides their/her/his departure? Note that some coaches wish to see things through bad/trying times but are not given the opportunity to do so either. This may not be the case in this example, but it can be in others. Experienced coaches also don't have to take on low-level programs when looking for a job initially, but some do for the challenge vs. a ready made contender like position. Like I've said before, weaker teams need good coaches too - likely more than better ones! A coaching change is not a reflection on a program necessarily. My commentary about lack of big scorers in some programs needs to be understood. That doesn't mean that it can't develop. I saw some very young kids that had the potential to become top scorers do so eventually, but this maturation takes time as was cited. You can't look at 7th-8th-9th graders to lead the scoring charge. I know this full well. Wayzata has a very strong history youth wise, and a very good HS program. In this day and age though I just don't believe that there is a direct correlation between youth and HS championships. Strong youth obviously is critical to potential for strong HS teams, but with OE, privates, kids quitting, etc. - you just can't say that youth champs = HS champs. I do agree 100% about the idea that getting kids to believe (in themselves and their team/ability), as well as positive motivation, and also coaching shift-by-shift is critical to a team being competitive/successful - even when they may be outgunned talent wise. This is what coaching is all about. I also believe that the passion of the coach can change a program through their efforts. It's needed to help build momentum where it previously may not have existed, stalled, etc. We talk a lot about "good coaches" and also about "turnover" in the coaching ranks, etc. I think some coaches just say that they will see "Class X" through to graduation and then evaluate if they will continue. It's not uncommon for a coach to chose the class with which major rebuilding will be needed afterwards and realize FOR THE SAKE OF THE PROGRAM that then new blood would be best to lead a new charge. Building/rebuilding a program is a lot more work than I think most realize, and it may just be that certain coaches don't choose to leave as they are afraid to rebuild as instead they know that that would be best for the program to bring in a new leader that can lead the next group onward and upward... I've tried to build/rebuild three different HS programs now, and have been able to see none of them through to fruition (yet) to date for various reasons. It's a lot of work!!! Also, coaches do have lives outside of hockey which do force them out of coaching sometimes for non-hockey related reasons... Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... ckeyfan</A> at: 3/16/06 11:30 pm

hockeygymnast · Post by **hockeygymnast** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:04 am

I think Wayzata would be the toughest place to coach in the state. The community is filled with type A; super-successful, highly driven CEO types. Anything less than championships is viewed as unsuccessful. I remember an incident a couple years ago at Plymouth Arena that left a couple of us who witnessed it speechless. Our team was playing in a girls tournament at the Plymouth Arena the same weekend that the State Boys Tournament was being played. This was the year that the Wayzata boys team made the tournament. I think they won the first game and lost the next two games. I also seem to recall that this was their first appearance at State. It was Sunday and the Wayzata boys team was returning to the Plymouth Arena and presumably returning their equipment. There was a Wayzata mom present who was giving all the players hugs and "way to go, etc." After the players left, a couple of us coaches congratulated the "mom" for their team's appearance at state. She glared at us and said, "If we had a coach who knew what he was doing, we could have won State!" She then stomped off in a huff. We couldn't believe it; this is a tough town to be a coach.

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