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Post by observer » Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:37 pm

I was thinking the same. Bantam isn't a good place for girls. She'll burn out.

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Post by Froggy Richards » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:02 pm

nobody wrote:I get it now....

Its not what your daughter can bring to a team...its what can a team bring to you daughter.
Like it or not, that's the Youth Sports World we live in now.

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Post by goaliedad31 » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:40 pm

"Let the other girls get pounded for a couple years because the strong players play somewhere else, then complain later when there is no depth."

=D> =D>

"I beg to differ The Boys game is vastly different from the girls game Playing on a boys team teaches more than just the on ice skills. ". This only holds true if the girls are skating on the top team, not two to three teams down.

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Post by InigoMontoya » Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:41 am

If your association has 12A and 12B and PWAA and PWA, would the 12A team beat the PWA team, since they are faster, better skilled, and more intense?

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Post by zambonidriver » Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:49 am

InigoMontoya wrote:If your association has 12A and 12B and PWAA and PWA, would the 12A team beat the PWA team, since they are faster, better skilled, and more intense?
I don't understand the question.

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Post by InigoMontoya » Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:59 am

zambonidriver wrote:
InigoMontoya wrote:If your association has 12A and 12B and PWAA and PWA, would the 12A team beat the PWA team, since they are faster, better skilled, and more intense?
I don't understand the question.
This only holds true if the girls are skating on the top team, not two to three teams down.
Where is the 12A team faster, better skilled, and more intense that the second boys team? For example, Edina's 12A team finished 3rd in the state tourney - a good 12A team, a good girls' program. However, could they compete at the same level as the number to or 3 boys team; could they skate with the peewee A team, or either of the B1 teams?

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Post by old goalie85 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:14 am

Not in FL. Our Top three pee-wee teams would all beat the last years 12A. No doubt about it. So I wouldn't even guess how much worse it would be after puberty. I can't believe anyone one could think so. :roll:

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Post by InigoMontoya » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:26 am

old goalie85 wrote:Not in FL. Our Top three pee-wee teams would all beat the last years 12A. No doubt about it. So I wouldn't even guess how much worse it would be after puberty. I can't believe anyone one could think so. :roll:
I'm not sure it's worth an eye roll. I don't think gd31 and observer are alone in their opinions; I'm just trying to ask a couple questions to get to the meat in the sauce. If peewee B is better in some areas (I'm not saying in all areas), then perhaps it may be to a girl's benefit to play with the boys, even at the B level. Many (not all) will agree that a girl goalie is more prepared for high school girls' hockey if she sees shots from bantams at the speed of play in front of her. Could it also be true that a girl hoping to prepare to play high school girls' hockey may be more prepared for, say, the physical nature of the game if she's played peewee hockey?

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Post by old goalie85 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:37 am

Goalie maybe different. My :roll: has to do w/puberty and boys going into the corner vs 99 % of the girls in non eastern block countrys. I get it do what uis best for you and yours, just be careful what you wish for.

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Post by zambonidriver » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:02 am

Highland #9 from 12A to Cottage Grove @u-15

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Post by Snap Happy » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:45 am

zambonidriver wrote:Highland #9 from 12A to Cottage Grove @u-15
My first reaction was "shocked that they would opt for this", but the more I think about it -- good for them. I bet that CG U15 team will be a nice team.

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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey » Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:09 pm

Do you and your programs have a feel for who's moving up to high school puck (still association eligible?) Lots of talk this summer about not just move-ups but really really young varsity talent (including some probable first liners.)

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Post by jg2112 » Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:16 pm

Nevertoomuchhockey wrote:Do you and your programs have a feel for who's moving up to high school puck (still association eligible?) Lots of talk this summer about not just move-ups but really really young varsity talent (including some probable first liners.)
I have heard in my local association (a co-op in District 2 - MV/I) that most high school-aged girls, many with U15 eligibility remaining, will be called up to both high schools.

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Post by Snap Happy » Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:38 pm

jg2112 wrote:
Nevertoomuchhockey wrote:Do you and your programs have a feel for who's moving up to high school puck (still association eligible?) Lots of talk this summer about not just move-ups but really really young varsity talent (including some probable first liners.)
I have heard in my local association (a co-op in District 2 - MV/I) that most high school-aged girls, many with U15 eligibility remaining, will be called up to both high schools.
Rosemount, Hastings, and Farmington have a U15 co-op with all girls who played U12's last year. It doesn't sound like many, if any, went up to HS in these associations.
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Post by jg2112 » Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:57 pm

Snap Happy wrote:
jg2112 wrote:
Nevertoomuchhockey wrote:Do you and your programs have a feel for who's moving up to high school puck (still association eligible?) Lots of talk this summer about not just move-ups but really really young varsity talent (including some probable first liners.)
I have heard in my local association (a co-op in District 2 - MV/I) that most high school-aged girls, many with U15 eligibility remaining, will be called up to both high schools.
Rosemount, Hastings, and Farmington have a U15 co-op with all girls who played U12's last year (so this is 1st year U14/15 for them). It doesn't sound like many, if any, went up to HS in these associations.
That is good. Let the 8th graders play against other 8th graders and prepare physically and mentally for high school.

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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey » Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:00 pm

If it's u15, that's the ninth graders too. And sadly parents more and more often move their kids if they don't make varsity as 9th graders. Coming from the boys side, that seems crazy.

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Post by Snap Happy » Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:01 pm

jg2112 wrote:
Snap Happy wrote:
jg2112 wrote:
Nevertoomuchhockey wrote:Do you and your programs have a feel for who's moving up to high school puck (still association eligible?) Lots of talk this summer about not just move-ups but really really young varsity talent (including some probable first liners.)
I have heard in my local association (a co-op in District 2 - MV/I) that most high school-aged girls, many with U15 eligibility remaining, will be called up to both high schools.
Rosemount, Hastings, and Farmington have a U15 co-op with all girls who played U12's last year (so this is 1st year U14/15 for them). It doesn't sound like many, if any, went up to HS in these associations.
That is good. Let the 8th graders play against other 8th graders and prepare physically and mentally for high school.
I agree... the only bummer is I know one of these high schools will not have enough numbers to field a JV team due to the girls staying down.

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Post by Snap Happy » Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:04 pm

Nevertoomuchhockey wrote:If it's u15, that's the ninth graders too. And sadly parents more and more often move their kids if they don't make varsity as 9th graders. Coming from the boys side, that seems crazy.
I don't believe we have any 9th graders on the team. I'm certain there's no 10th graders for sure (which I believe the U15 designation makes room for?).

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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey » Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:04 pm

I suppose every team/school/association is different in this regard. But personally I would have kept my kid on a top bantam team another year rather than play jv if I could have. He would agree.
But that's one player at one school at one moment in time.

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Post by InigoMontoya » Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:16 pm

I know one of these high schools will not have enough numbers to field a JV team due to the girls staying down.
It's no easy decision, but this causes issues with the high school program (e.g. the 3rd or 4th line that sees limited varsity ice have no JV ice to supplement development).

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Post by observer » Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:06 pm

Parents just say no. Play U15. High school hockey starts in 10th grade and that's soon enough.
Of course the high school coach may ask some players to move up. Don't. His/her title is HS coach and that's their job. Your title is parent.

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Post by Mavs » Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:21 pm

We should start a new thread once high school tryouts are underway with high school "takes" of 8th graders and even 7th graders.

There will be a million 9th graders but 7th and 8th grade high school takes of note would be interesting to follow.

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