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InigoMontoya
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HP 14/15

Post by InigoMontoya » Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:27 pm

Is the crème going to be in Anoka this weekend?

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Re: HP 14/15

Post by Snap Happy » Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:57 pm

InigoMontoya wrote:Is the crème going to be in Anoka this weekend?
I've heard from participants that the HP 14/15 program is pretty watered down talent-wise. I'd be curious to hear though if many of the top players attend do this program despite this?

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Re: HP 14/15

Post by Snap Happy » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:25 pm

Snap Happy wrote:
InigoMontoya wrote:Is the crème going to be in Anoka this weekend?
I've heard from participants that the HP 14/15 program is pretty watered down talent-wise. I'd be curious to hear though if many of the top players attend do this program despite this?
I just looked at the rosters. I think I heard wrong because the rosters look pretty solid. Should be an interesting weekend in Anoka!

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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:21 pm

In our district we have about 50% alternates (many have other sport conflicts - especially soccer and lacrosse.)
But having said that, players 21-30 are just as talented on any given day than the girls they are replacing. I think the 2001s are deep all over. Goalie is the biggest hurdle.

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Post by massalsa » Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:04 pm

missing above average 01's that I can think of off top of head...random districts:

Megan Myers Goalie (played for Revolution?)
Bailey Burton (Revolution and Bloomington)
Maddie Mashuga (Anoka PWA)
Mannon McMahan (OMG PWAA)
Sydney Breza (Breck)
Lily Delandis (Edina PWA)
Hartung
De La Rosa (Highland Park?)
Langenfels (EP/Tonka)
Olivia Mobley (SLP)

That team right there with a bunch of average 02's would probably put a pretty serious beatdown on almost anybody in the tournament.

There are some pretty great 02's playing this fall that I am aware of that will compete very well with any 01's that are playing.

Regardless of the players that are missing hopefully there will be some great hockey this weekend. Plenty of talented players...hoping that the matchups will be good ones and not a bunch of blow outs.

The tryouts were at very random times for some districts so that HAD to effect the process. Hoping that it will be convenient for most in the spring...

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Post by zambonidriver » Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:16 am

D2 Missing
Zieglar Highland
Ryan Highland
Schuster Stillwater
Parent FL
Best FL
Nelson FL
Mastell FL
Mills FL
Though will be strong in goal

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Post by Mavs » Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:57 am

I think kids tend to miss tryouts in the fall due to softball, lacrosse, soccer, etc and since there is no national camp to follow they don't skip said other sport in order to make the tryouts.

Spring will be the 01's right? Think it was 00 last spring.

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Post by SECoach » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:15 am

I think this is supposed to be a development program. Maybe it's ok to provide an opportunity to girls that are not on the above lists. It could possibly be beneficial to girls hockey overall if other players get a chance to spend some quality time on the ice. Not sure it's meant to be a showcase or provide entertainment for the pundits. If it is, maybe it shouldn't be?

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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:55 am

Yes this year is 2001- fall and spring
Although for whatever reasons, some districts invited their older 02s (especially those in the same grade who have been playing with the 01s all the way up.) In the spring it can only be 2001.
And fall IS development in the sense that it's not a tourney. I just hope they don't continue the "no penalty" penalty system they had last year. It was out of control by day 2.
And I know at least 3 for sure maybe 1 more DIDNT MAKE IT from massas list, although it's safe to say others on the list didn't participate. Or tried out just to get a resume line of their selection but gave up their spot for whatever reason. And those 3-4 didn't get picked up on another team like a few Edina players who didn't make their district team. 3-4 didn't make any team.

IMHO, it's s***** to have girls play outside their own district teams. In the past maybe you could argue whatever district didn't have enough talent to field a competitive team. That's clearly not true anymore, so how ticked off are the 18,19,20 would have been selected players who lost their spot to an out district girl who couldn't make her home team?

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Post by zambonidriver » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:58 am

2nd year of the program. We are using it in place of fall warmup. Very affordable. Hit and miss for attendance with fall sports in full swing. Hour and a half ice for practice high school coaches running practice. Rumor has it this is the last year for the fall festival as the spring format is being expanded. Practice times fit really well with homework load.

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Post by C_R » Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:39 am

Nevertoomuchhockey wrote:Yes this year is 2001- fall and spring
Although for whatever reasons, some districts invited their older 02s ...

IMHO, it's s***** to have girls play outside their own district teams. In the past maybe you could argue whatever district didn't have enough talent to field a competitive team. That's clearly not true anymore, so how ticked off are the 18,19,20 would have been selected players who lost their spot to an out district girl who couldn't make her home team?
From the MNH webpage - "The CCM Minnesota Hockey High Performance 14/15 program is designed to provide players born in 2001-2002 the opportunity to train and compete against players of similar age." It is open to 01s and 02s - the Districts decide how to manage that.

While there may be a District or two that would cut number 18, 19 or 20 in favor of another District's alternate, for the most part I believe the out of district players were rostered to fill vacancies. This is not inconsistent with MN Hockey's posted policy - "*For those districts that do not have enough players or choose to not participate, players may be given opportunity to tryout in corresponding districts."

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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey » Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:05 pm

So which districts had > 20 tryout?

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Post by Snap Happy » Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:28 pm

Nevertoomuchhockey wrote:So which districts had > 20 tryout?
I think D6 and D8 have 2 teams a piece, don't they?

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Post by jg2112 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:28 pm

Nevertoomuchhockey wrote:So which districts had > 20 tryout?
Obviously Edina's District. I'm sure District 10.

Also, District 2 had >20.

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Post by kniven » Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:46 pm

Wow! Pretty much all Hermantown and Duluth players in district 11 14/15's.

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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey » Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:21 pm

Less than 20. You said out-of-district players are only playing on those teams because of low numbers. I wanted to know which districts didn't get 20 to tryout.

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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey » Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:26 pm

kniven wrote:Wow! Pretty much all Hermantown and Duluth players in district 11 14/15's.
What are you even looking at? Not a single girl from Duluth on the MN Hockey site roster. More from Edina than Duluth?

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Post by Mavs » Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:09 pm

Nevertoomuchhockey wrote:Yes this year is 2001- fall and spring
Although for whatever reasons, some districts invited their older 02s (especially those in the same grade who have been playing with the 01s all the way up.) In the spring it can only be 2001.
And fall IS development in the sense that it's not a tourney. I just hope they don't continue the "no penalty" penalty system they had last year. It was out of control by day 2.
And I know at least 3 for sure maybe 1 more DIDNT MAKE IT from massas list, although it's safe to say others on the list didn't participate. Or tried out just to get a resume line of their selection but gave up their spot for whatever reason. And those 3-4 didn't get picked up on another team like a few Edina players who didn't make their district team. 3-4 didn't make any team.

IMHO, it's s***** to have girls play outside their own district teams. In the past maybe you could argue whatever district didn't have enough talent to field a competitive team. That's clearly not true anymore, so how ticked off are the 18,19,20 would have been selected players who lost their spot to an out district girl who couldn't make her home team?
Players from his list tried out and didn't make it? Are you serious? wow

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Post by Mavs » Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:11 pm

Nevertoomuchhockey wrote:
kniven wrote:Wow! Pretty much all Hermantown and Duluth players in district 11 14/15's.
What are you even looking at? Not a single girl from Duluth on the MN Hockey site roster. More from Edina than Duluth?
http://www.minnesotahockey.org/roster/s ... son=226210

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Post by Nevertoomuchhockey » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:45 pm

Mavs wrote:
Nevertoomuchhockey wrote:
kniven wrote:Wow! Pretty much all Hermantown and Duluth players in district 11 14/15's.
What are you even looking at? Not a single girl from Duluth on the MN Hockey site roster. More from Edina than Duluth?
http://www.minnesotahockey.org/roster/s ... son=226210
Thank you Mavs, that's where I was reading. Not sure where Kniven was - no Duluth to be found. Edina tho!

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