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2013 Central Scouting Mid-Term

Post by GR3343 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:30 am

CSS Midterm 2013 North American Skater Rankings
North American Goalies | International Skaters | International Goalies

RANK PLAYER POSITION TEAM LEAGUE
1 JONES, SETH D PORTLAND WHL
2 MACKINNON, NATHAN C HALIFAX QMJHL
3 DROUIN, JONATHAN LW HALIFAX QMJHL
4 MONAHAN, SEAN C OTTAWA OHL
5 SHINKARUK, HUNTER C/LW MEDICINE HAT WHL
6 PULOCK, RYAN D BRANDON WHL
7 GAUTHIER, FREDERIK C RIMOUSKI QMJHL
8 ZYKOV, VALENTIN LW BAIE-COMEAU QMJHL
9 NURSE, DARNELL D SAULT STE. MARIE OHL
10 MANTHA, ANTHONY RW VAL-D'OR QMJHL
11 MORRISSEY, JOSHUA D PRINCE ALBERT WHL
12 MUELLER, MIRCO D EVERETT WHL
13 ERNE, ADAM LW QUEBEC QMJHL
14 CARRIER, WILLIAM LW CAPE BRETON QMJHL
15 HORVAT, BO C LONDON OHL
16 DICKINSON, JASON C GUELPH OHL
17 THEODORE, SHEA D SEATTLE WHL
18 RYCHEL, KERBY LW WINDSOR OHL
19 BIGRAS, CHRIS D OWEN SOUND OHL
20 COMPHER, JT LW USA U-18 USHL
21 MCCOSHEN, IAN D WATERLOO USHL
22 BOWEY, MADISON D KELOWNA WHL
23 DOMI, MAX C/LW LONDON OHL
24 KLIMCHUK, MORGAN LW REGINA WHL
25 HARTMAN, RYAN RW PLYMOUTH OHL
26 LAZAR, CURTIS C/RW EDMONTON WHL
27 SORENSEN, NICK RW QUEBEC QMJHL
28 LODGE, JIMMY C SAGINAW OHL
29 BJORKSTRAND, OLIVER RW PORTLAND WHL
30 ZADOROV, NIKITA D LONDON OHL
31 MCCARRON, MICHAEL RW USA U-18 USHL
32 HURLEY, CONNOR C EDINA HIGH HIGH-MN
33 NASTASIUK, ZACH RW OWEN SOUND OHL
34 PETAN, NICOLAS C PORTLAND WHL
35 DUCLAIR, ANTHONY LW QUEBEC QMJHL
36 PESCE, BRETT D NEW HAMPSHIRE H-EAST
37 BAILEY, JUSTIN RW KITCHENER OHL
38 HARPER, STEPHEN LW ERIE OHL
39 ROY, ERIC D BRANDON WHL
40 KOSTALEK, JAN D RIMOUSKI QMJHL
41 DAUPHIN, LAURENT C CHICOUTIMI QMJHL
42 FASCHING, HUDSON RW USA U-18 USHL
43 POIRIER, EMILE LW GATINEAU QMJHL
44 HEATHERINGTON, DILLON D SWIFT CURRENT WHL
45 DIABY, JONATHAN-ISMAEL D VICTORIAVILLE QMJHL
46 FITZGERALD, RYAN C VALLEY EJHL
47 SANTINI, STEVEN D USA U-18 USHL
48 MOUTREY, NICK C/LW SAGINAW OHL
49 DOWNING, MICHAEL D DUBUQUE USHL
50 DOETZEL, KAYLE D RED DEER WHL
51 THOMPSON, KEATON D USA U-18 USHL
52 ETCHEGARY, KURT C QUEBEC QMJHL
53 DUNN, VINCENT C VAL-D'OR QMJHL
54 PAQUIN-BOUDREAU, GABRYEL LW BAIE-COMEAU QMJHL
55 GEERTSEN, MASON D VANCOUVER WHL
56 ELIE, REMI LW LONDON OHL
57 OLOFSSON, GUSTAV D GREEN BAY USHL
58 ROY, MARC-OLIVIER C BLAINVILLE-BOISBRIAND QMJHL
59 HAYDEN, JOHN C USA U-18 USHL
60 CASSELS, COLE C OSHAWA OHL
61 LIPSBERGS, ROBERTS LW SEATTLE WHL
62 TAMBELLINI, ADAM C SURREY BCHL
63 WHEATON, MITCHELL D KELOWNA WHL
64 RIPLEY, LUKE D POWELL RIVER BCHL
65 JENSEN, SPENSER D MEDICINE HAT WHL
66 CORBETT, JEFF D SUDBURY OHL
67 LEWINGTON, TYLER D MEDICINE HAT WHL
68 STANTON, TY D MEDICINE HAT WHL
69 KUJAWINSKI, RYAN C KINGSTON OHL
70 HAUF, JARED D SEATTLE WHL
71 AUGER, JUSTIN RW GUELPH OHL
72 HEINRICH, BLAKE D SIOUX CITY USHL
73 CLIFTON, CONNOR D USA U-18 USHL
74 GOBEIL, THOMAS RW CHICOUTIMI QMJHL
75 KIVIHALME, TEEMU D BURNSVILLE HIGH-MN
76 MORIN, SAMUEL D RIMOUSKI QMJHL
77 VANNELLI, THOMAS D MINNETONKA HIGH-MN
78 JOHNSON, LUKE C LINCOLN USHL
79 FLORENTINO, ANTHONY D SOUTH KENT SCHOOL HIGH-CT
80 HARPUR, BEN D GUELPH OHL
81 SUBBAN, JORDAN D BELLEVILLE OHL
82 GARLENT, HUNTER C GUELPH OHL
83 SANFORD, ZACHARY LW ISLANDERS EJHL
84 MCNULTY, MARC D PRINCE GEORGE WHL
85 HILL, TYLER LW HOTCHKISS SCHOOL HIGH-CT
86 PETERSON, AVERY C GRAND RAPIDS HIGH-MN
87 BELL, MYLES LW KELOWNA WHL
88 LIBERATI, MILES D LONDON OHL
89 BYRON, BLAINE C SMITHS FALLS CCHL
90 SALVAGGIO, JASON C/LW SOUTH KENT SCHOOL HIGH-CT
91 COULOMBE, ALEX D STANSTEAD COLLEGE HIGH-QC
92 BURNSIDE, JOSHUA LW MISSISSAUGA OHL
93 GREGOIRE, JEREMY C BAIE-COMEAU QMJHL
94 CHASE, GREGORY C/RW CALGARY WHL
95 LABBE, DYLAN D SHAWINIGAN QMJHL
96 LIPON, JC RW KAMLOOPS WHL
97 ULLY, COLE LW KAMLOOPS WHL
98 MALONE, SEAN C USA U-18 USHL
99 GRAVEL, MAXIME D RIMOUSKI QMJHL
100 EBBING, THOMAS C CHICAGO USHL
101 BRACE, CAMERON C OWEN SOUND OHL
102 PAUL, NICHOLAS LW BRAMPTON OHL
103 BEATON, BRONSON RW CAPE BRETON QMJHL
104 POPE, DAVID LW WEST KELOWNA BCHL
105 BAPTISTE, NICHOLAS RW SUDBURY OHL
106 BETZ, NICK RW ERIE OHL
107 SILK, BRODY C SUDBURY OHL
108 MOORE, TREVOR LW TRI-CITY USHL
109 MOTTE, TYLER C USA U-18 USHL
110 MURPHY, MATTHEW D HALIFAX QMJHL
111 MERKLEY, JOHNATHON C SWIFT CURRENT WHL
112 HOUCK, JACKSON RW VANCOUVER WHL
113 HARMS, BRENDAN RW FARGO USHL
114 GUENTZEL, JAKE C SIOUX CITY USHL
115 GLIENKE, ZACH LW EAGAN HIGH-MN
116 PLATZER, KYLE C LONDON OHL
117 PINHO, BRIAN C ST. JOHN'S PREP HIGH-MA
118 GRAVES, RYAN D PEI QMJHL
119 RENO, PARKER D EDINA HIGH HIGH-MN
120 ELLIS, EDDIE LW ANDOVER HIGH-MA
121 OLSSON, ROSS RW LINCOLN USHL
122 VERHAEGHE, CARTER C NIAGARA OHL
123 VALK, CURTIS C MEDICINE HAT WHL
124 BESSE, GRANT RW BENILDE-ST.MARGARET'S HIGH-MN
125 SHERMAN, WILEY D HOTCHKISS SCHOOL HIGH-CT
126 BRADFORD, ERIK C BARRIE OHL
127 PEDERSEN, BRENT LW KITCHENER OHL
128 HALL, ZACH C BARRIE OHL
129 BELLERIVE, MATTHIEU RW RED DEER WHL
130 JOLY, MICHAEL RW RIMOUSKI QMJHL
131 KUPTSOV, SERGEY RW OTTAWA OHL
132 RUSH, COOPER D CHILLIWACK BCHL
133 HUTCHINSON, NICK C AVON OLD FARMS HIGH-CT
134 BUCKLES, MATT C ST. MICHAELS OJHL
135 JOHNSON, ADAM C HIBBING HS HIGH-MN
136 SEGALLA, RYAN D SALISBURY HIGH-CT
137 SOUCY, CARSON D SPRUCE GROVE AJHL
138 RANKIN, CONNOR LW TRI-CITY WHL
139 HART, JAYDEN C PRINCE ALBERT WHL
140 CAVE, COLBY C SWIFT CURRENT WHL
141 GUILTINAN, KEVIN D PRINCE GEORGE BCHL
142 VALIEV, RINAT D INDIANA USHL
143 JACKSON, JACOB C TARTAN HIGH-MN
144 HONEY, CONNOR RW SEATTLE WHL
145 VEILLEUX, TOMMY LW VICTORIAVILLE QMJHL
146 KUBALIK, DOMINIK LW SUDBURY OHL
147 RAYCROFT, MARK D BRAMPTON OHL
148 BROUILLARD, NIKOLAS D DRUMMONDVILLE QMJHL
149 TOLCHINSKY, SERGEY LW SAULT STE. MARIE OHL
150 DE JONG, NOLAN D VICTORIA BCHL
151 BROWN, JOSHUA D OSHAWA OHL
152 MCGAULEY, TIM C BRANDON WHL
153 SMITH, JERRET D SEATTLE WHL
154 DANCS, DEXTER LW VERNON BCHL
155 NIKKEL, AYRTON D EVERETT WHL
156 MERMIS, DAKOTA D LONDON OHL
157 WEBSTER, MICHAEL D BARRIE OHL
158 SHEEN, RILEY LW SEATTLE WHL
159 BETZGOLD, GREG C/LW PETERBOROUGH OHL
160 POMPI, QUIN D BERKSHIRE HIGH-MA
161 BIRKS, DANE D MERRITT BCHL
162 STEVENS, JOHN C DUBUQUE USHL
163 WOOD, MILES LW NOBLES HIGH-MA
164 LEWIS, CLINT D USA U-18 USHL
165 LOFTHOUSE, TRENT RW VICTORIA WHL
166 JOSEPHS, TROY C ST. MICHAELS OJHL
167 BRYUKVIN, VLADIMIR RW RIMOUSKI QMJHL
168 FORNEY, CHRISTOPHER D THIEF RIVER FALLS HIGH-MN
169 DUDA, STEVEN D SAINT JOHN QMJHL
170 BUTCHER, WILL D USA U-18 USHL
171 REPE, JURIJ D SAINT JOHN QMJHL
172 LAFONTAINE, DANIEL C AVON OLD FARMS HIGH-CT
173 RASKOB, WILLIE D SHATTUCK-ST.MARYS PREP HIGH-MN
174 PIONK, NEAL D HERMANTOWN HIGH-MN
175 PERREAUX, CARSON C PRINCE ALBERT WHL
176 BOIVIN, ALEXANDRE C QUEBEC QMJHL
177 REWAY, MARTIN LW GATINEAU QMJHL
178 LIGHT, CONNOR D ANDOVER HIGH-MA
179 TOMCHUK, WIL D TRI-CITY WHL
180 ALLEN, EVAN C USA U-18 USHL
181 DEA, JEAN-SEBASTIEN C ROUYN-NORANDA QMJHL
182 WATSON, JAMAL RW LETHBRIDGE WHL
183 DUPUY, JEAN LW KINGSTON OHL
184 DIFRUSCIA, ANTHONY LW NIAGARA OHL
185 BLOMQVIST, AXEL RW LETHBRIDGE WHL
186 SHORE, QUENTIN C U OF DENVER WCHA
187 POWER, ADAM D SPOKANE WHL
188 NOSAD, STEPHEN RW PETERBOROUGH OHL
189 COPP, ANDREW C U OF MICHIGAN CCHA
190 LEMAY, MATHIEU RW ROUYN-NORANDA QMJHL
191 HAMILTON, MARK D SALISBURY HIGH-CT
192 QUENNEVILLE, PETER C DUBUQUE USHL
193 SCHILLER, LANDON RW SAULT STE. MARIE OHL
194 KANZIG, KEEGAN D VICTORIA WHL
195 ADAM, AUSTIN D EVERETT WHL
196 RAUHAUSER, ALEC D BISMARCK HIGH-ND
197 WOOD, TYLER D NOBLES HIGH-MA
198 SHERWOOD, KIEFER C/RW OHIO BLUE JACKETS USMAAAE
199 BERISHA, AARON RW BELLEVILLE OHL
200 VESEL, TYLER C SHATTUCK-ST.MARYS PREP HIGH-MN
201 BOEHM, BRETT LW FLIN FLON SJHL
202 FORTIER, SIMON RW RIMOUSKI QMJHL
203 WILLIAMS, COLBY D REGINA WHL
204 TREMBLAY, SIMON LW CHICOUTIMI QMJHL
205 BARDREAU, COLE C CORNELL ECAC
206 BURROUGHS, KYLE D REGINA WHL
207 ANDREW, TYLER RW TOPEKA NAHL
208 WEEGAR, MACKENZIE D HALIFAX QMJHL
209 BEAUDIN, NICOLAS LW STANSTEAD COLLEGE HIGH-QC
210 MONTGOMERY, JACOB LW SIOUX CITY USHL
LV LAPLANTE, YAN PAVEL C PEI QMJHL
LV BERTUZZI, TYLER LW GUELPH OHL
LV HENRY, ADAM D LETHBRIDGE WHL
LV OTTERMAN, CHAD LW NEW JERSEY HITMEN EJHL
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Post by mnhockfan99 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:59 am

Nothing against Teemu but I'd take his teammate Sheehy over him. That kid I think is a terrific talent..

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Post by old goalie85 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:12 am

Why does Canada put out so many more goalies. I know someone will say the # of games. But even kids that play for the Tier 1 AAA teams in the U.S. don't seem to be as good of goalies. When was the last time a goalie from M.N. went in the first 3 rds ???

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Post by dangle_snipe » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:20 am

old goalie85 wrote:Why does Canada put out so many more goalies. I know someone will say the # of games. But even kids that play for the Tier 1 AAA teams in the U.S. don't seem to be as good of goalies. When was the last time a goalie from M.N. went in the first 3 rds ???
Better competition day in and day out. Look how many candadians are listed on this list. That's who the goalies are playing against every game.

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Post by SuperStar » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:37 am

dangle_snipe wrote:
old goalie85 wrote:Why does Canada put out so many more goalies. I know someone will say the # of games. But even kids that play for the Tier 1 AAA teams in the U.S. don't seem to be as good of goalies. When was the last time a goalie from M.N. went in the first 3 rds ???
Better competition day in and day out. Look how many candadians are listed on this list. That's who the goalies are playing against every game.
Maybe Adam Hauser in 1999 - selected 81st overall by Edmonton. (does 81st count in the TOP 3 rounds?)

Next Would be Alex Stalock - SSP - Selected 112th overall - 2005, San Jose

http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/us-state ... stats.html

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Post by Just Checking » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:17 am

old goalie85 wrote:Why does Canada put out so many more goalies. I know someone will say the # of games. But even kids that play for the Tier 1 AAA teams in the U.S. don't seem to be as good of goalies. When was the last time a goalie from M.N. went in the first 3 rds ???
My take would be tradition. Goalies are heros becuase of the deep knowledge and understanding of the game in Canada. More kids want to be goalie. It takes a great athelte to be a great goalie, and if our great athletes were encouraged rather than discouraged to be goalies we would have more. Its a culture thing IMO.

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Post by Snap Happy » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:41 am

No one from the heralded "best team in the state" STA Cadets?

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Post by The Exiled One » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:53 am

SuperStar wrote:
dangle_snipe wrote:
old goalie85 wrote:Why does Canada put out so many more goalies. I know someone will say the # of games. But even kids that play for the Tier 1 AAA teams in the U.S. don't seem to be as good of goalies. When was the last time a goalie from M.N. went in the first 3 rds ???
Better competition day in and day out. Look how many candadians are listed on this list. That's who the goalies are playing against every game.
Maybe Adam Hauser in 1999 - selected 81st overall by Edmonton. (does 81st count in the TOP 3 rounds?)

Next Would be Alex Stalock - SSP - Selected 112th overall - 2005, San Jose

http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/us-state ... stats.html
Mike Lee - 2009 - 91st overall

FYI, Stalock went in the 4th round.

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Post by Snap Happy » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:09 pm

I'm not trying to sound sarcastic or mean at all here, but why aren't Ben Walker and Cody Corbett on this list? Both left to WHL in lieu of high school.

Here's an interesting article from a year ago about their departure. It sights the opportunity to play against better talent and elevating their draft resume. They didn't get drafted in 2012 and they aren't on the scouting list for '13. Plenty of MN HS players on the list though.

http://www.startribune.com/printarticle/?id=137927613

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Post by observer » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:17 pm

I noticed the same thing. Both are having very good seasons in the WHL. Might this list only include first time eligible players? I'm thinking there are some other missing players too. Kloos?

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Post by Snap Happy » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:21 pm

observer wrote:I noticed the same thing. Both are having very good seasons in the WHL. Might this list only include first time eligible players? I'm thinking there are some other missing players too. Kloos?
I did learn something by reading this article though that I thought was cool and mitigated the risk of forfeiting their NCAA eligibility - for every year of WHL service you get a full year tuition to school of your choice (as long as you don't sign a pro contract). That's not a bad deal for a guy who plays in the league for 3+ years.

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Post by EliteHockeyMind » Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:51 pm

Snap Happy wrote:No one from the heralded "best team in the state" STA Cadets?
Can you think of anyone from the STA team that is worthy of making this list?

STA is made of a deep pool of good talent, not a few top line stand outs. I could see Tommy Novak making this list in 2 years.

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Post by Teak » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:20 pm

42 FASCHING, HUDSON RW USA U-18 USHL

Don't forget the Minnesota high schoolers who left early.

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Post by O-townClown » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:56 pm

Snap, that's awfully misleading. It isn't quite that clean and much of the potential tuition money goes unclaimed.
Be kind. Rewind.

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Post by Gopher Blog » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:13 pm

observer wrote:Might this list only include first time eligible players?
Besse is 2nd time eligible and is listed so that has nothing to do with it.

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Post by DubCHAGuy » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:15 pm

mnhockfan99 wrote:Nothing against Teemu but I'd take his teammate Sheehy over him. That kid I think is a terrific talent..
Sheehy's draft year is 2014.

Corbett and Walker were both 2012 prospects. They can still be drafted, but every team passed on them last year so I'm not sure central scouting pays much attention to them.

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Post by GR3343 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:20 am

Gopher Blog wrote:
observer wrote:Might this list only include first time eligible players?
Besse is 2nd time eligible and is listed so that has nothing to do with it.
As is Adam Johnson of Hibbing
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Post by The Exiled One » Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:21 am

GR3343 wrote:
Gopher Blog wrote:
observer wrote:Might this list only include first time eligible players?
Besse is 2nd time eligible and is listed so that has nothing to do with it.
As is Adam Johnson of Hibbing
As is Charlie Lindgren who is ranked 29th for goalies.

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Post by norcon » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:01 pm

GR3343 wrote:
Gopher Blog wrote:
observer wrote:Might this list only include first time eligible players?
Besse is 2nd time eligible and is listed so that has nothing to do with it.
As is Adam Johnson of Hibbing
Don't know whether he was off his game or not Thurs. night against Rapids, but didn't even notice him on the ice. Might have been better off playing juniors this season where he would have been challenged more.

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Post by GR3343 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:12 am

norcon wrote:
GR3343 wrote:
Gopher Blog wrote:
observer wrote:Might this list only include first time eligible players?
Besse is 2nd time eligible and is listed so that has nothing to do with it.
As is Adam Johnson of Hibbing
Don't know whether he was off his game or not Thurs. night against Rapids, but didn't even notice him on the ice. Might have been better off playing juniors this season where he would have been challenged more.
Heard he was coming off illness that had kept him out for a bit. From what I've seen of him, when he wants to play he can be very very good, but those spurts seem few & far between lately.
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