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OneMoreYear
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Reebok HP 16s - Tryouts/Rosters

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Section 1A/AA is over - I can't find any info on Rosters/results? Wasn't there, but was told that Something like 65+skaters and 7 goalies (Cha-ching Minn Hockey), with a strong SSM presence. Anyone have more detail?
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Re: Reebok HP 16s - Tryouts/Rosters

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OneMoreYear wrote:Something like 65+skaters and 7 goalies (Cha-ching Minn Hockey)
You're not the only one who hears the cash register bell ring with these kind of numbers.

The families of those who make the cut and represent 1A/AA at the next level "festival" will be looking at another round of tryout/registration fees, and will also have to pay admission charges if they want to watch their son skate. Once past the ticket counter, they'll sit a respectful distance away from a whole lot of evaluators, who will be easy to spot in their new black Reebok jackets. And if they make it to the next Round of 54...another set of fees and admission charges, and a different set of new black jackets.

I know that ice time isn't cheap, and that you can't expect the coaches coming in from out-of-town to cover the cost of their lodging and meals and mileage. But there does seem to be a lot of black jackets at these events, worn by a lot of out-of-town evaluators. It's easy to become a bit suspicious about the budgets, and wonder whether families are throwing good money into the chase for a less-than-advertised number of open roster spots.

Minnesota Hockey is a non-profit organization, and those of us who still have kids that age are paying for their membership within this organization. Wouldn't it be nice if they opened the books for its members, and provided a detailed accounting of the revenues and expenses associated with these HP programs? :idea:
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Re: Reebok HP 16s - Tryouts/Rosters

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OneMoreYear wrote:Section 1A/AA is over - I can't find any info on Rosters/results? Wasn't there, but was told that Something like 65+skaters and 7 goalies (Cha-ching Minn Hockey), with a strong SSM presence. Anyone have more detail?
My guess is that Bob Haskins is on the roster. Didn't he coach his son all through youth hockey then on to Mayo H.S. then last year with the HP 15s.. Yep He'll be there.
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Post by MrBoDangles »

I'd much rather have the out of town evaluators and pay the price.

Just take a look at the youth select tournament to see how many of the best that they bypass.

BEER!!
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Post by MegaMan »

Section 6 is solid.
shooter803
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Post by shooter803 »

here's the sec 7 A/AA roster - Boys 16

NO. FIRST LAST POS.
30 Dylan Bouten D
32 Jack Kuhlman D
40 Noah Hallbeck D
42 Oliver Trachsel D
45 Nathan Sepp D
47 Dylan Holt D
3 Alex Schwab F
7 Kyle Klatt F
8 Gunnar Harris F
9 Koby Bender F
12 Nicholas Altmann F
13 Logan Nelson F
16 Alex Adams F
18 Benjamin Johnson F
20 Jonah Bischoff F
21 Zach Sitarz F
23 Brian Bunten F
25 Cody Budisalovich F
51 Darion Hanson G
52 Isiah Dilley G
Alternates: Matthew Lyttle F
Eric Soderberg F
Connor LaRoque D
River Alander G

Anyone have the other sections yet?
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Post by MegaMan »

Section 6:

Forwards

Matthew Freytag
Max Zimmer
Billy Duma
Will Duda
Will Garin
Michael Graham
Mark Kaske
Chase Jungels
Zach Tarczon
Brandon Bissett
Jack Fetrow


Defense

Ben Newhouse
Jake Moelk
Alex Stevens
Peter Heimbold
Matt Hines
Peter Von Steinberg
Marc Sullivan

Goalies

Vaughan Ahrens
Jacob Berger
MGHockey12
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Post by MGHockey12 »

wow...strong team

MegaMan wrote:Section 6:

Forwards

Matthew Freytag
Max Zimmer
Billy Duma
Will Duda
Will Garin
Michael Graham
Mark Kaske
Chase Jungels
Zach Tarczon
Brandon Bissett
Jack Fetrow


Defense

Ben Newhouse
Jake Moelk
Alex Stevens
Peter Heimbold
Matt Hines
Peter Von Steinberg
Marc Sullivan

Goalies

Vaughan Ahrens
Jacob Berger
Task Force 34
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Section 2 Roster - 16's

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From the Minnesota Hockey Website - Section 2 16's

Alexander Robbel D Bloomington Jefferson Varsity
Ryan Zuhlsdorf D Edina Bantam AA
Luke Perunovich D Edina JV
Jack Ahcan D Burnsville Varsity
Sam Fuss D Edina JV
Justin Paulson D Breck Varsity
Mark Hildahl F Mound Westonka JV
Cade Gleekel F Blake Varsity
Casey Dornbach F Edina Bantam AA
Brock Boeser F Burnsville Varsity
John Ferguson F Blake Varsity
Derek Daugaard F Prior Lake Varsity
Edmund Chute F Blake Varsity
Neal Walsh F Bloomington Jefferson Varsity
Ryan Murphy F Providence Acad Varsity
Chase Ellingson F Breck Varsity
Henry Bowlby F Edina JV
Andy Schoen F Burnsville JV
Holton Sticklen G Mound Westonka Bantam A
Conor Klaers G St. Louis Park Bantam A
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Section 4

Danny Weihrauch St. Thomas Academy
Jackson Cates Stillwater
Dylan McDonald St. Thomas Academy
Blake Lizotte Chisago Lakes
Jack Becker Mahtomedi
Jarod Mickelson St. Paul Academy
Jessie Solheid St. Paul Johnson
Christiano Versich St. Thomas Academy
Peter Tufto St. Thomas Academy
Steve Malmgren Henry Sibley
Riley McCann Roseville
Colin Gallagher Henry Sibley
Noah Bormann Spring Lake Park
Nick Heid Spring Lake Park
Jason Krych Totino-Grace
Devon Sunell Spring Lake Park
Jacob Nystrom Spring Lake Park
Will Swanson Mahtomedi
Aaron Furlalno Spring Lake Park
Jacob Olson Hill-Murray
Pioneers 1983, 1991 and 2008 State Champions
UntouchableFlow
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Post by UntouchableFlow »

pioneers wrote:Section 4

Danny Weihrauch St. Thomas Academy
Jackson Cates Stillwater
Dylan McDonald St. Thomas Academy
Blake Lizotte Chisago Lakes
Jack Becker Mahtomedi
Jarod Mickelson St. Paul Academy
Jessie Solheid St. Paul Johnson
Christiano Versich St. Thomas Academy
Peter Tufto St. Thomas Academy
Steve Malmgren Henry Sibley
Riley McCann Roseville
Colin Gallagher Henry Sibley
Noah Bormann Spring Lake Park
Nick Heid Spring Lake Park
Jason Krych Totino-Grace
Devon Sunell Spring Lake Park
Jacob Nystrom Spring Lake Park
Will Swanson Mahtomedi
Aaron Furlalno Spring Lake Park
Jacob Olson Hill-Murray
5 Spring Lake Park kids? I have heard that they have some young talent, but 5 kids to 1 kid from Hill-Murray?
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Post by grandmeadowhockeyfan »

A changing of the guard? Never mind. How many will stay in Spring lake and how many will transfer to Hill, BSM, or Saint Thomas. Just an honest question.
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Post by Bonehead »

grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:A changing of the guard? Never mind. How many will stay in Spring lake and how many will transfer to Hill, BSM, or Saint Thomas. Just an honest question.
SLP should be pretty happy with the new section assignments. Very good chance to get to state. Should make a difference on who stays.
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Post by MrBoDangles »

pioneers wrote:Section 4

Danny Weihrauch St. Thomas Academy
Jackson Cates Stillwater
Dylan McDonald St. Thomas Academy
Blake Lizotte Chisago Lakes
Jack Becker Mahtomedi
Jarod Mickelson St. Paul Academy
Jessie Solheid St. Paul Johnson
Christiano Versich St. Thomas Academy
Peter Tufto St. Thomas Academy
Steve Malmgren Henry Sibley
Riley McCann Roseville
Colin Gallagher Henry Sibley
Noah Bormann Spring Lake Park
Nick Heid Spring Lake Park
Jason Krych Totino-Grace
Devon Sunell Spring Lake Park
Jacob Nystrom Spring Lake Park
Will Swanson Mahtomedi
Aaron Furlalno Spring Lake Park
Jacob Olson Hill-Murray
Like :D
WCHBlog
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Post by WCHBlog »

UntouchableFlow wrote:
pioneers wrote:Section 4

Danny Weihrauch St. Thomas Academy
Jackson Cates Stillwater
Dylan McDonald St. Thomas Academy
Blake Lizotte Chisago Lakes
Jack Becker Mahtomedi
Jarod Mickelson St. Paul Academy
Jessie Solheid St. Paul Johnson
Christiano Versich St. Thomas Academy
Peter Tufto St. Thomas Academy
Steve Malmgren Henry Sibley
Riley McCann Roseville
Colin Gallagher Henry Sibley
Noah Bormann Spring Lake Park
Nick Heid Spring Lake Park
Jason Krych Totino-Grace
Devon Sunell Spring Lake Park
Jacob Nystrom Spring Lake Park
Will Swanson Mahtomedi
Aaron Furlalno Spring Lake Park
Jacob Olson Hill-Murray
5 Spring Lake Park kids? I have heard that they have some young talent, but 5 kids to 1 kid from Hill-Murray?
All five kids from SLP are pretty legit. Hill's kids qualify through their home section, so they've got some kids in other sections.
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Re: Reebok HP 16s - Tryouts/Rosters

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almostashappy wrote:
OneMoreYear wrote:Something like 65+skaters and 7 goalies (Cha-ching Minn Hockey)
You're not the only one who hears the cash register bell ring with these kind of numbers.

The families of those who make the cut and represent 1A/AA at the next level "festival" will be looking at another round of tryout/registration fees, and will also have to pay admission charges if they want to watch their son skate. Once past the ticket counter, they'll sit a respectful distance away from a whole lot of evaluators, who will be easy to spot in their new black Reebok jackets. And if they make it to the next Round of 54...another set of fees and admission charges, and a different set of new black jackets.

I know that ice time isn't cheap, and that you can't expect the coaches coming in from out-of-town to cover the cost of their lodging and meals and mileage. But there does seem to be a lot of black jackets at these events, worn by a lot of out-of-town evaluators. It's easy to become a bit suspicious about the budgets, and wonder whether families are throwing good money into the chase for a less-than-advertised number of open roster spots.

Minnesota Hockey is a non-profit organization, and those of us who still have kids that age are paying for their membership within this organization. Wouldn't it be nice if they opened the books for its members, and provided a detailed accounting of the revenues and expenses associated with these HP programs? :idea:
This buget?

http://www.minnesotahockey.org/page/sho ... key-budget

Or this one?
http://www.minnesotahockey.org/page/sho ... -documents
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Post by preferhockey »

So the budget appears to breakeven, however actual report a great profit! Where is the profit going?

Sitting on $1.2 million of cash.
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Re: Reebok HP 16s - Tryouts/Rosters

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QuackerTracker wrote:
almostashappy wrote:
Minnesota Hockey is a non-profit organization, and those of us who still have kids that age are paying for their membership within this organization. Wouldn't it be nice if they opened the books for its members, and provided a detailed accounting of the revenues and expenses associated with these HP programs? :idea:
This buget?

http://www.minnesotahockey.org/page/sho ... key-budget

Or this one?
http://www.minnesotahockey.org/page/sho ... -documents
Well, the first link is a step in the right direction...but it only gives total revenues and expenses for each HP program. What I'm curious about is how the revenue is spent within a program (and where the profits go). How much spent on ice time, how much spent on food/lodging/travel expenses, how much on black Reebok jackets, etc., etc.

Oh, and if anyone doubts that there's some serious revenue being generated.....

2012-13 Budget

HP Administration...$3,700 revenue, $54,575 expenses
HP 15 Boys....$179,280 revenue, $170,199 expenses
HP 16 Boys...$68,600 revenue, $59,875 expenses
HP 17 Boys...$67,300 revenue, $61,645 expenses
HP 18 Boys Festival...$19,300 revenue, $18,075 expenses
Ted Brill Great 8....$42,500 revenue, $38,972 expenses
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Re: Reebok HP 16s - Tryouts/Rosters

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almostashappy wrote:
OneMoreYear wrote:Something like 65+skaters and 7 goalies (Cha-ching Minn Hockey)
You're not the only one who hears the cash register bell ring with these kind of numbers.

The families of those who make the cut and represent 1A/AA at the next level "festival" will be looking at another round of tryout/registration fees, and will also have to pay admission charges if they want to watch their son skate. Once past the ticket counter, they'll sit a respectful distance away from a whole lot of evaluators, who will be easy to spot in their new black Reebok jackets. And if they make it to the next Round of 54...another set of fees and admission charges, and a different set of new black jackets.

I know that ice time isn't cheap, and that you can't expect the coaches coming in from out-of-town to cover the cost of their lodging and meals and mileage. But there does seem to be a lot of black jackets at these events, worn by a lot of out-of-town evaluators. It's easy to become a bit suspicious about the budgets, and wonder whether families are throwing good money into the chase for a less-than-advertised number of open roster spots.

Minnesota Hockey is a non-profit organization, and those of us who still have kids that age are paying for their membership within this organization. Wouldn't it be nice if they opened the books for its members, and provided a detailed accounting of the revenues and expenses associated with these HP programs? :idea:
A non-profit organization does not mean that it isn't out to make money. Non-profit is simply a tax-classification/business model.
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Re: Reebok HP 16s - Tryouts/Rosters

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pickme wrote: A non-profit organization does not mean that it isn't out to make money. Non-profit is simply a tax-classification/business model.
I used Minnesota Hockey's non-profit status to distinguish it from the Elite league, which is privately owned and operated. I wouldn't expect the Elite league to open its books and show how the revenues generated by try-out fees and player registration costs are spent. Non-profits like Minnesota Hockey, though, should be held to a higher level of transparency.
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Re: Reebok HP 16s - Tryouts/Rosters

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almostashappy wrote:
pickme wrote: A non-profit organization does not mean that it isn't out to make money. Non-profit is simply a tax-classification/business model.
I used Minnesota Hockey's non-profit status to distinguish it from the Elite league, which is privately owned and operated. I wouldn't expect the Elite league to open its books and show how the revenues generated by try-out fees and player registration costs are spent. Non-profits like Minnesota Hockey, though, should be held to a higher level of transparency.
To get this back on track...

If you haven't seen, here are all the rosters for 16's
http://www.minnesotahockey.org/page/sho ... 16-rosters

Section 8 is solid
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Re: Reebok HP 16s - Tryouts/Rosters

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Section 8 is solid[/quote]

...and Section 1 8)
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Post by preferhockey »

Section 8, only one from Moorhead, must mean Cullen as coach does not have a lot of influence.... yet.

One coach is TRF and has four players. Benefit of coach being involved. Not saying anything wrong but can be helpful to program.
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