Who's Not Returning 2013-2014

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Thu May 16, 2013 11:28 am

Might as well get this started.

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Here's an easy one...

Sr F Jack Ramsey Minnetonka Penticton-BCHL (Minnesota)

Try to include a link to your source if you can. I might take your word and add your player to the list if you have a history of sharing accurate information.

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Thu May 16, 2013 11:39 am

And Shane Gersich

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Class Pos Player           HS Team             New Team        College
Jr    F   Shane Gersich    Holy Family         NTDP            North Dakota
Sr    F   Jack Ramsey      Minnetonka          Penticton-BCHL  Minnesota
Sr    F   Karson Kuhlman   Cloquet             Dubuque-USHL    Minnesota-Duluth
Sr    F   Austin Poganski  St. Cloud Cathedral Tri-City-USHL   North Dakota
Sr    F   Avery Peterson   Grand Rapids        Sioux City-USHL
Sr    F   Connor Hurley    Edina               Muskegon-USHL   Notre Dame
Sr    D   Jack Dougherty   St. Thomas          NTDP
Sr    D   Cole Bjugson     Roseau              Fargo-USHL
Sr    D   Blake Hillman    Elk River           Dubuque-USHL
Sr    D   Neal Pionk       Hermantown          Sioux City-USHL Minnesota-Duluth

dueling21 · Post by **dueling21** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:22 am

bump. Plenty of rumors out there, but just a couple confirmed so far.

UpNorthMom · Post by **UpNorthMom** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:34 am

Cole Bjugson is leaving the Roseau Rams . . . committed to and drafted by the Fargo Force.

minnscout · Post by **minnscout** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:18 am

Blake Hillman Elk River- Dubuque USHL

rockcrusher · Post by **rockcrusher** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:33 pm

Neal Pionk, Sr. Hermantown. Sioux city

ThePuckStopsHere · Post by **ThePuckStopsHere** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:34 pm

Can someone answer this question - What happens if these players decide to complete their senior year and not go the USHL route?

Wildcathcky · Post by **Wildcathcky** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:17 pm

ThePuckStopsHere wrote:Can someone answer this question - What happens if these players decide to complete their senior year and not go the USHL route?

Many college coaches want players to spend at least a year in junior before joining the college program. So, staying in high school for a senior year may simply delay when they enter college depending on the coach's position.

ThePuckStopsHere · Post by **ThePuckStopsHere** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:40 pm

Wildcathcky wrote:
ThePuckStopsHere wrote:Can someone answer this question - What happens if these players decide to complete their senior year and not go the USHL route?
Many college coaches want players to spend at least a year in junior before joining the college program. So, staying in high school for a senior year may simply delay when they enter college depending on the coach's position.

Ok so is it fair to say most if not all of the players have been contacted by D1 schools or are they going on the assumption they will be contacted after a year in the USHL?

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:02 pm

ThePuckStopsHere wrote:
Wildcathcky wrote:
ThePuckStopsHere wrote:Can someone answer this question - What happens if these players decide to complete their senior year and not go the USHL route?
Many college coaches want players to spend at least a year in junior before joining the college program. So, staying in high school for a senior year may simply delay when they enter college depending on the coach's position.
Ok so is it fair to say most if not all of the players have been contacted by D1 schools or are they going on the assumption they will be contacted after a year in the USHL?

Both. Some are surefire D1 players, with or without standing offers, looking to increase their exposure, rate of development, and getting the obligatory "year of juniors" out of the way.

Some have had limited contact and are simply attempting to increase their exposure and/or development in the hopes of landing a D1 scholarship offer. This is a gamble, IMHO.

Again, IMHO, I'd recommend a kid stay in HS until he has a scholarship offer THEN go to juniors. Of course, some HS programs have poor reputations and/or extremely soft schedules. It'd be tough to be an elite player stuck on one of those teams through your senior season. It happens though.

ThePuckStopsHere · Post by **ThePuckStopsHere** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:15 pm

Just can't imagine asking your child to give up his Senior Year in hopes of a D1 opportunity. I believe if your good enough they will find you no matter what.

Great article a couple months back in the Tribune on Nick Leddy saying no to all the pressure and staying his senior year. It didn't work out too bad for him.

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:45 pm

ThePuckStopsHere wrote:Just can't imagine asking your child to give up his Senior Year in hopes of a D1 opportunity. I believe if your good enough they will find you no matter what.

Great article a couple months back in the Tribune on Nick Leddy saying no to all the pressure and staying his senior year. It didn't work out too bad for him.

It worked out great! However, not too many players are given the change to go straight from HS to high-level D1 nowadays. Looking at last season...

• The Gophers tend to have more (Rau, Bjugstad, Budish, Holl, Alt, Horn)
• Wisconsin had three (Labate, Faust, Navin)
• UMD had two last year (Delisle, Sampair)
• SCSU had one last year (Hanowski) and won't have any next year
• MSUM could count Blueger if they wanted (SSM)
• Bemidji and UND didn't have any

...so that's 11 or 13 (depending on how you count them) high school players who went straight to one of the seven closest D1 colleges without playing a season of juniors. There are about 210 players on all of these rosters combined. Just looking quickly at the recruits for next season, you can expect that the number of D1 players who come straight from high school will continue to decline.

Gopher Blog · Post by **Gopher Blog** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:16 pm

ThePuckStopsHere wrote:Just can't imagine asking your child to give up his Senior Year in hopes of a D1 opportunity. I believe if your good enough they will find you no matter what.

Great article a couple months back in the Tribune on Nick Leddy saying no to all the pressure and staying his senior year. It didn't work out too bad for him.

I doubt any parent is asking the kid to do something the kid doesn't want to do. The way your first sentence sounds, you'd think a kid had a gun held to his head by his dad.

I think some of the above posts give pretty good examples of why a kid may make such a decision. Could be lack of good HS competition in his area, additional exposure to college/pro scouts, etc. To each their own on that.

A kid like Leddy didn't have to worry about that given who/where he played. It's not the same story for every kid.

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:30 pm

https://twitter.com/jackdougherty2/stat ... 0275705858

slyer · Post by **slyer** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:17 am

you would think that players would want an extra year to develop by staying in hs, whats the big rush? thinking it's more look at me

Bluewhitefan · Post by **Bluewhitefan** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:05 am

slyer wrote:you would think that players would want an extra year to develop by staying in hs, whats the big rush? thinking it's more look at me

They get what that development elsewhere - Juniors, NTDP - and many think it's better.

observer · Post by **observer** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:11 am

Slyer,

NTDP? Pretty unique opportunity which is considered the best in hockey.

USHL? The top junior league in the US with a lot of young players from other states pushing their advancement. A big step up developmentally. Many with D1 deals in hand.

NAHL? The top Tier II option in the US. Similar to the USHL in terms of big step developmentally. Generally players are a year older (top NAHL teams will be loaded with 93s this year while the USHL only allows a few 93s per team) which makes it a tough experience.

Since schools are accepting verbal agreements from 9th graders the players are in competition with 1000 other hockey players in the US for D1 spots. As they say, you're either catching up or you're falling behind. I agree it's sad they can't stay for their senior year in HS, sophomore or junior year for the NTDP, but the race with other players from across the US is on.

observer · Post by **observer** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:24 am

Kuhlman Cloquet Dubuque?

SuperStar · Post by **SuperStar** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:24 am

observer wrote:Slyer,

NTDP? Pretty unique opportunity which is considered the best in hockey.

USHL? The top junior league in the US with a lot of young players from other states pushing their advancement. A big step up developmentally. Many with D1 deals in hand.

NAHL? The top Tier II option in the US. Similar to the USHL in terms of big step developmentally. Generally players are a year older (top NAHL teams will be loaded with 93s this year while the USHL only allows a few 93s per team) which makes it a tough experience.

Since schools are accepting verbal agreements from 9th graders the players are in competition with 1000 other hockey players in the US for D1 spots. As they say, you're either catching up or you're falling behind. I agree it's sad they can't stay for their senior year in HS, sophomore or junior year for the NTDP, but the race with other players from across the US is on.

Very, Very true!

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:40 pm

observer wrote:Kuhlman Cloquet Dubuque?

Looks like it.

http://www.dubuquefightingsaints.com/sl ... hp?sid=836

Probably Poganski too...

http://www.stormhockey.com/NewsRundown/ ... DLIST.aspx

MNhockey29 · Post by **MNhockey29** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:01 pm

Anyone know if Avery Peterson and Michaud are leaving next year?

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:38 pm

MNhockey29 wrote:Anyone know if Avery Peterson and Michaud are leaving next year?

From what I hear so far, Westin Michaud won't be back for Cloquet. It could change, but that's what I'm hearing.

rainier · Post by **rainier** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:00 am

MNhockey29 wrote:Anyone know if Avery Peterson and Michaud are leaving next year?

According to Russo, Peterson will play in USHL.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/215389801.html

MNhockey29 · Post by **MNhockey29** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:10 pm

Any word on Perry and if he'll leave for Sioux Falls?

NLHockey · Post by **NLHockey** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:16 pm

MNhockey29 wrote:Any word on Perry and if he'll leave for Sioux Falls?

Played this weekend for Andover in Cloquet, if that means anything