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Ready2GoYet
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Post by Ready2GoYet » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:09 pm

Games Tonight 2/6:

Shakopee at Red Wing
Albert Lea at Rochester Lourdes
LSH/SP/TCU at Waseca
Rochester Mayo at Austin
Mankato East at Faribault
Holy Angels at Northfield
Winona at Owatonna
Avalanche HS Hockey at La Crescent

Roy01
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Post by Roy01 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:25 pm

I'm looking forward to the Albert Lea - Lourdes game tonight. Lourdes has another change to play spoiler in the seeding game. If anyone is going there tonight if they could update it'd be great. Thanks!

urban iceman
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Post by urban iceman » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:08 pm

Roy01 wrote:I'm looking forward to the Albert Lea - Lourdes game tonight. Lourdes has another change to play spoiler in the seeding game. If anyone is going there tonight if they could update it'd be great. Thanks!
Doesn't Albert Lea usually have a local radio station that does their games?

The Talon
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Post by The Talon » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:23 pm

After tonights 3-2 Lourdes win vs Albert Lea, I think your top 4 seedings are:

1. NP
2. West
3. Lourdes
4. Albert Lea

Roy01
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Post by Roy01 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:47 am

Resulta for 2/6

Shakopee over Red Wing: 5-3
Lourdes over Albert Lea: 3-2
LSP over Waseca: 5-3
Rochester Mayo over Austin: 3-2
Faribault over Mankato East: 7-6 OT
Holy Angels over Northfield: 4-2
Owatonna over Winona: 8-0
La Crescent over Avalanche HS Hockey: 4-3 OT

BadgerBob82
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Post by BadgerBob82 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:04 am

Albert Lea dominated the game, but the goalie from Red Wing stole the show. AL was outshooting LHS more than 3-1 and is the better team. But goaltending certainly made the difference.

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Post by guysonthegrassyknoll » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:58 am

anyone at the Albert Lea V Lourdes games saw 2 very good teams play - Lourdes goalie played well, but they're whole team held back Albert Lea's constant pressure.

What determined that game was a poor officiating call - a goal taken away from Albert Lea in 1st period.

should be a good section playoff to watch -

BadgerBob82
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Post by BadgerBob82 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:15 pm

I agree grassy knoll guy! Rope-a-Dope is a viable hockey system with a strong goalie.

The Talon
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Post by The Talon » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:24 pm

I agree AL dominated game --LHS just has goaltending going for them--they did get a couple of gritty goals, but their defense is HORRIBLE...they just stare at the puck all day meanwhile there are guys WIDE OPEN for back doors, etc

urban iceman
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Post by urban iceman » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:27 pm

New Prague-4
Lourdes-0
And it wasn't even that close!
What was up between Mankato West and Mayo? Lots of penalties. Donnybrook??

Roy01
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Post by Roy01 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:00 am

Results for 2/8 -

New Prague over Lourdes: 4-0
Mankato West over Rochester Mayo: 6-3
Faribault over Winona: 7-2
Owatonna over Austin: 7-2
Rochester Century over Albert Lea: 4-2

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Post by curtiscurve » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:10 am

Given most of the key games, as far as seeding is concerned, have been played, here is what I have for the seeding predictions....

1 - New Prague - Should end the season by wining their last 2 leaving them 18-4-3 (8-0 in the section). Not much debate here for the #1 seed.
2 - Mankato West - With 2 games left, I don't believe they can lose the #2 seed. With that said, I think they will win the last two and finish with a 23-2 record (13-1 in section play).
3 - Rocherter Lourdes - Three non section games remain. I think they will go 1-2 in those games brining them to 7-17-1 (3-3 in section play). Reason for the 3 seed is the all 3 section losses were to the top dogs West and NP twice and the all important win over Albert Lea.
4 - Albert Lea - 3 games left and as I stated above, they will likely drop the game against West. The other 2 (Mankato East and Winona) should be wins for a 14-10-1 overall record (6-4 section record).
5 - La Crescent - 2 games left and I see them going 1-1 in those contests bringing them to 15-6-4 (5-0-1 in the section) Ugly tie vs Winona but their success vs the rest of the section makes up for it.
6 - LeSueur/St. Peter - 14-8-2 (5-3 in section play) Solid win over Faribault but the loss to La Crescent leaves them at the 6 slot. The loss to Austin is not good and could possibly drop them to 7.
7 - Faribault - Three games remaining (Dodge Co, Austin and Owatonna) and should win 2 bringing them to 11-11-2 (8-4-1). I do not see any bad losses but the head to head loss to LSP prevents them from moving up to 5.
8 - Northfield - it will be a tough last 2 games that I think they will lose both. That will leave them with a 9-15-1 record (2-4-1 section record)
9 - Mankato East - 8-17 (4-9 in section play)
10 - Waseca - 7-14-1 (1-6-1 in section play)
11 - Red Wing - 3-22 (1-5 in section play)
12 - Winona - 3-20-2 (2-9-1 in section play)
13 - Austin - 3-21-1 (2-10-1 in section play)

I believe this is a two team section, but when one of those teams has been the section Champion 5 years running and the other team being a Roy Nystrom led Albert Lea, I guess you can't count out the possibility of an upset. In the end, I believe West will get it done and actually get seeded in the top 4 at the Tourney!

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Post by Roy01 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:30 am

Games for 2/11 -

Lourdes vs. St. Francis
Red Wing vs. New Prague
Northfield vs. Chanhassen
LSP vs. Marshall
Albert Lea vs. Mankato West
Mankato East vs. Fairmont
La Crescent vs. La Crosse (WI)
Faribault vs. Dodge County

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Post by OU812 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:40 pm

West 3

ALea 0

Shots 35-15 West. Spiess in net for West

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Post by goldy313 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:17 am

St Francis 9
Lourdes 1

Roy01
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Post by Roy01 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:02 am

Results for 2/11 -

St. Francis over Lourdes: 9-1
New Prague over Red Wing: 4-1
Northfield over Chanhassen: 3-1
LSP over Marshall: 6-2
Mankato West over Albert Lea: 3-0
Mankato East over Fairmont: 5-1
La Crescent over La Crosse (WI): 5-0
Faribault over Dodge County: 4-2

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Post by BadgerBob82 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:21 am

goldy313 wrote:St Francis 9
Lourdes 1
This has to hurt their chances for a top 5 seed?

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Post by Ready2GoYet » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:45 am

Yes, I would agree that this loss certainly doesn't clear up the seeding spot for Lourdes--however, it is just one game in a 25-game season.
I still see New Prague and West as a clear 1 and 2--while I think West will come out of 1A, I think NP has earned the 1 seed, especially given their road win over West.
I also think Albert Lea is a solid 3 seed--I don't give that much weight to a 1 goal home victory for Lourdes over them. Home crowd, last change, etc.
Its in the next group to me where it will get real interesting as the coaches decide where to seed everyone (alphabetical: Faribault, La Crescent, Lourdes, LS/H/SP/TCU, and Northfield). As stated, a 1 goal home victory over AL does not hold that much weight for me for Lourdes as a differentiating factor (for example, NP beats Shakopee by 1 on the road but by 4 at home , similar for away/home wins with Chaska at 1 and 5). A previous poster also noted as a quality win LS/H/SP/TCU's win over Fairbault--again, a 1 goal (1+EN) road loss for Fbo, so at best I see it as a draw (with no return game to compare).
La Crescent is the real wild card to me as I have not gotten to see them play--they have certainly put up a nice record, but with playing a lot of western Wisconsin teams which I don't believe are viewed as having real strong programs. Same thing with LC, they have an OT home win over LS/H/SP/TCU--that's not enough for me to put them ahead of LS, especially with LC's home ties with both Winona and Dodge County.
For arguments sake, I going to throw out where I would see them:
4. Lourdes
5. Faribault
6. LS/H/SP/TCU
7. Northfield
8. La Crescent
(and I repeat, I have not gotten a chance to see LC, which quite possibly downgrades where I view them).
As far as the remaining 5 teams (Austin, Mankato-East, Red Wing, Waseca, and Winona) I don't see any likely upsets coming out of this group, but on any given night, with a lucky bounce and a couple of stupid penalties, anything can happen.
Playoff hockey's around the corner--nothing better than this time of year, when we all find out how far off we were in our predictions.

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Post by Roy01 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:49 pm

BadgerBob82 wrote:
goldy313 wrote:St Francis 9
Lourdes 1
This has to hurt their chances for a top 5 seed?
Burkel wasn't in net if I heard right, so that might be something worth considering. But being out-shot 40-21 against St. Francis isn't that impressive either...

I would say it definitely hurts them, but I don't think it's enough to bump them from a top 5 spot. The win over Albert Lea pretty much assured them a top five seed, and there isn't a great measure to compare them with teams like La Crescent for example who has wins, but against bad competition, whereas Lourdes has losses, but against great competition.

Really the one measure for Lourdes is losses to New Prague and West and, while they were clearly outplayed, it wasn't a huge blowout on the scoreboard. Ultimately, Lourdes won the games they needed to that would keep them within the top five i.e. Northfield, and Albert Lea. I would include the Red Wing game as well considering it's a section opponent, but I can't see that win as significant being as I can't imagine a scenario where Red Wing ends up higher than the 9th seed.

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Post by Ready2GoYet » Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:15 am

Games tonight, 2/13:

Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato at LSH/SP/TCU
La Crescent at Dodge County
Rochester Century at Mankato West
Chaska at Red Wing
Waseca at Windom Area
Mankato East at Albert Lea
Faribault at Austin
Rochester Lourdes at Blake
Winona at Rochester John Marshall

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Post by goldy313 » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:09 am

Blake 7
Lourdes 1

Lourdes isn't helping themselves get a top 4 seed with 2 blowout losses. That said if I were either West or New Prague I'd rather see Lourdes on the other side of the bracket and the Eagles could be anywhere from #3 down to #7.

Faribault 2
Austin 0

West 4
Century 2, that surprises me some, it seems West is playing close games against some weaker opponents, teams Farmington blew out and Farmington and New Prague are pretty close.

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Post by GopherPuck15 » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:23 am

goldy313 wrote:Blake 7
Lourdes 1

Lourdes isn't helping themselves get a top 4 seed with 2 blowout losses. That said if I were either West or New Prague I'd rather see Lourdes on the other side of the bracket and the Eagles could be anywhere from #3 down to #7.

Faribault 2
Austin 0

West 4
Century 2, that surprises me some, it seems West is playing close games against some weaker opponents, teams Farmington blew out and Farmington and New Prague are pretty close.
Lourdes was absolutely dominated tonight. It should be very interesting to see how the seedings play out.

I too, was curious about the West/Century score.. West outshot them 41-12, so I'm not looking into things too much.

Does anyone know when the seeds are official for this section?

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Post by hockeydad » Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:02 am

Sunday morning, I've been told

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Post by Jim9000 » Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:23 am

Gonna be tough to seed the middle-

Here is how i see it as of today:
1: New Prague
2: Mankato West
3: Albert Lea
4: Northfield
5: Rochester Lourdes
6: LaCrescent
7: Le Sueur Co-op
8: Faribault
9: Red Wing
10: Austin
11: Mankato East
12: Winona
13: Waseca

Ready2GoYet
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Post by Ready2GoYet » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:36 pm

Looking at four rankings that I know of (MNHockeyRankings, PageStat Rankings, MnHS Hockey Rankings, and QRF Rankings) a composite using all four (just raw rank composites, no scoring/weighting), those rankings through 2/8 (for a couple that is the most recent posted) puts the teams as follows:
1. Mankato West
2. New Prague
3. Albert Lea
4. Rochester Lourdes
5. Northfield
6. Le Sueur
7. Faribault
T8. La Crescent
T8. Red Wing
10. Austin
T11. Winona
T11. Mankato East
13. Winona
If you drop out the top and bottom ranks from the four for each team, the only changes are that Lourdes moves ahead of Albert Lea, Faribault moves ahead of Le Sueur, and the tie comes off between Winona and East. Just numbers though.....the coaches on Sunday have the final say.

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