Everyone in the section, outside of New Prague has bad losses. Hell, Northfield lost to Winona. Head to head and section record does matter. LSP and La Crescent have had nice years. To their benefit, the section is a mess and everyone seems to have beat one another. In those years, it benefits teams that don't have a lot of section games but win the ones they do. Like it or not, Teams like Faribault and Northfields do not deserve seeds better than LSP and La Crescent.GopherPuck15 wrote:St. Peter also lost to East, LaCrescent, Litchfield, Marshall, New Ulm, etc. the Big 9 may be down, but it's still better than the Big South. Even if those statements were false, perception has always been big 9 is better, and the big 9 coaches likely believe that too.goldy313 wrote:Weak schedule? The Big Nine was down, LeSeuer beat both West and Faribault, Waseca tied Faribault. Mayo couldn't beat Eveleth and those were the top 3 teams in the Big Nine.
Lourdes and New Prague each had tough schedules, nobody else did.
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That's the thing. It doesn't matter who deserves what. St. Peter will not be ranked ahead of faribault and northfield. Period.curtiscurve wrote:Everyone in the section, outside of New Prague has bad losses. Hell, Northfield lost to Winona. Head to head and section record does matter. LSP and La Crescent have had nice years. To their benefit, the section is a mess and everyone seems to have beat one another. In those years, it benefits teams that don't have a lot of section games but win the ones they do. Like it or not, Teams like Faribault and Northfields do not deserve seeds better than LSP and La Crescent.GopherPuck15 wrote:St. Peter also lost to East, LaCrescent, Litchfield, Marshall, New Ulm, etc. the Big 9 may be down, but it's still better than the Big South. Even if those statements were false, perception has always been big 9 is better, and the big 9 coaches likely believe that too.goldy313 wrote:Weak schedule? The Big Nine was down, LeSeuer beat both West and Faribault, Waseca tied Faribault. Mayo couldn't beat Eveleth and those were the top 3 teams in the Big Nine.
Lourdes and New Prague each had tough schedules, nobody else did.
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Gopher Puck, you were right. Sorry for doubting you!GopherPuck15 wrote:That's the thing. It doesn't matter who deserves what. St. Peter will not be ranked ahead of faribault and northfield. Period.curtiscurve wrote:Everyone in the section, outside of New Prague has bad losses. Hell, Northfield lost to Winona. Head to head and section record does matter. LSP and La Crescent have had nice years. To their benefit, the section is a mess and everyone seems to have beat one another. In those years, it benefits teams that don't have a lot of section games but win the ones they do. Like it or not, Teams like Faribault and Northfields do not deserve seeds better than LSP and La Crescent.GopherPuck15 wrote: St. Peter also lost to East, LaCrescent, Litchfield, Marshall, New Ulm, etc. the Big 9 may be down, but it's still better than the Big South. Even if those statements were false, perception has always been big 9 is better, and the big 9 coaches likely believe that too.
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Play-off Predictions
Play-in Games
8 ) Lourdes over 9) East 4-2
7) Albert Lea over 10) La Crescent 4-3
6) Red Wing over 11) Waseca 3-1
5) LSP over 12) Winona 6-1
4) Fariabult over 13) Austin 4-2
Quarter Finals
1) New Prague over 8 ) Lourdes 5-2
5) LeSueur St. Peter over 4) Faribault 3-2 OT
2) West over 7) Albert Lea 4-3
3) Northfield over 6) Red Wing 2-1 OT
Semi Finals
1) New Prague over 5) LeSueur St. Peter 4-1
3) Northfield over 2) West 3-2 OT
Finals
1) New Prague over 3) Northfield 4-3 OT
8 ) Lourdes over 9) East 4-2
7) Albert Lea over 10) La Crescent 4-3
6) Red Wing over 11) Waseca 3-1
5) LSP over 12) Winona 6-1
4) Fariabult over 13) Austin 4-2
Quarter Finals
1) New Prague over 8 ) Lourdes 5-2
5) LeSueur St. Peter over 4) Faribault 3-2 OT
2) West over 7) Albert Lea 4-3
3) Northfield over 6) Red Wing 2-1 OT
Semi Finals
1) New Prague over 5) LeSueur St. Peter 4-1
3) Northfield over 2) West 3-2 OT
Finals
1) New Prague over 3) Northfield 4-3 OT
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I seem to recall GMHF "Guaranteeing" Lourdes will be a top 4 or 5 seed. Well, the Eagles got what they deserved, the 8 seed.
GMHF- care to comment on your Eaglet squad now that the seeds are official?
GMHF- care to comment on your Eaglet squad now that the seeds are official?
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HEY GMHF, are you still putting together internet tournaments or did you hear about your Lourdes seed yet?blueblood wrote:I seem to recall GMHF "Guaranteeing" Lourdes will be a top 4 or 5 seed. Well, the Eagles got what they deserved, the 8 seed.
GMHF- care to comment on your Eaglet squad now that the seeds are official?
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0-5-1 in the Section. That's more than 20 percent of their games that they had a chance to make a statement and failed to do so. Heck 5 wins on the year. I'm sorry, but Lourdes doesn't get a free pass to a better seed just because they've had past success with difficult schedules.goldy313 wrote:Some strange seeds....
Albert Lea finished 9th in the Big Nine and lost to 8th place Mankato East twice yet Albert Lea gets a 7 and East gets a 9. Red Wing finishes 10th in the Big Nine and gets a 6 seed.
It seems beating Lourdes in one game matters more than the rest of the season.
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I think you hit the nail on the head here.. I'm stumped. Would of loved to hear how these coaches argued at the meeting, should be interesting though!goldy313 wrote:Some strange seeds....
Albert Lea finished 9th in the Big Nine and lost to 8th place Mankato East twice yet Albert Lea gets a 7 and East gets a 9. Red Wing finishes 10th in the Big Nine and gets a 6 seed.
It seems beating Lourdes in one game matters more than the rest of the season.
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8 ) Lourdes over 9) East 5-2 (Lourdes may be getting guys back)
7) Albert Lea over 10) La Crescent 5-2 (LaC missing a top player on DQ, will hurt no depth badly)
6) Red Wing over 11) Waseca 5-0 (RW rolling-flu bug should be gone, Waseca top player back, won't matter)
5) LSP over 12) Winona 4-0 (Winona won't be able to stop Wenner)
4) Fairbo over 13) Austin 4-0 (Fairbo is back to full strength)
7) Albert Lea over 10) La Crescent 5-2 (LaC missing a top player on DQ, will hurt no depth badly)
6) Red Wing over 11) Waseca 5-0 (RW rolling-flu bug should be gone, Waseca top player back, won't matter)
5) LSP over 12) Winona 4-0 (Winona won't be able to stop Wenner)
4) Fairbo over 13) Austin 4-0 (Fairbo is back to full strength)
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Playoff Predictions
Round 1
(4) Faribault over (13) Austin 6-2
(5) LSHSPTCU over (12) Winona 3-1
(11) Waseca over (6) Red Wing 2-1
(7) Albert Lea over (10) La Crescent 3-2
(8) Lourdes over (9) East 6-1
Quarters
(1) NP over (8) Lourdes 4-2
(2) West over Albert Lea 5-1
(3) Northfield over (11) Waseca 4-0
(4) Faribault over (5) LSHSPTCU 5-3
Semis
(1) NP over (4) Faribault 4-1
(3) Northfield over (2) West 4-3
Final
(1) NP over (3) Northfield 3-2
Round 1
(4) Faribault over (13) Austin 6-2
(5) LSHSPTCU over (12) Winona 3-1
(11) Waseca over (6) Red Wing 2-1
(7) Albert Lea over (10) La Crescent 3-2
(8) Lourdes over (9) East 6-1
Quarters
(1) NP over (8) Lourdes 4-2
(2) West over Albert Lea 5-1
(3) Northfield over (11) Waseca 4-0
(4) Faribault over (5) LSHSPTCU 5-3
Semis
(1) NP over (4) Faribault 4-1
(3) Northfield over (2) West 4-3
Final
(1) NP over (3) Northfield 3-2
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