I want to be the first to welcome Hermantown hockey to 7AA..

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elliott70
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Post by elliott70 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:06 am

Rocketwrister wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:Peky, No hate from me, just see it as a good hockey program, similar to Rapids and Bemidji who both play up in an attempt to play in one of the greatest high school sporting events in the country. They belong in AA.
I'm not 100 percent sure on this, but I don't believe Rapids opts up...I think they are AA with enrollment
1198 and less is single A.
Grand Rapids has 1014 - single A.
Bemidji 1167.
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Post by greenwayraider » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:09 am

Elliot you're too fast for me. Also, Mahtomedi has an enrollment of 1113 and is in Single A. I would expect them to reach AA enrollment in the near future.

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Post by alcloseshaver » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:30 am

elliott70 wrote:
Rocketwrister wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:Peky, No hate from me, just see it as a good hockey program, similar to Rapids and Bemidji who both play up in an attempt to play in one of the greatest high school sporting events in the country. They belong in AA.
I'm not 100 percent sure on this, but I don't believe Rapids opts up...I think they are AA with enrollment
1198 and less is single A.
Grand Rapids has 1014 - single A.
Bemidji 1167.
CEC 1070
Duluth East 1445
Roseau 341
Brainerd 1561
Moorhead 1400
Thanks Elliot, I know that the Hermantown enrollment is only 614 comments are coming but just doesn't pass the eye test for all the reasons stated over the years. Tired of the debate and won't comment on it going forward.

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Post by north_bear » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:54 am

pekyman wrote:
greenwayraider wrote:
east hockey wrote:
kniven wrote:
alcloseshaver wrote:
Slammer wrote:This isn't official, and there are a lot of rumors flying around.
Slammy, even it happens it is anti-climatic. Think of the missed classics, there legacy is tarnished for waiting this long if they go. Did you see the tweet by Mark Parrish about H-town?
No. What did Mark tweet?
"He's scared he'll actually have to coach instead of easily defeating weaker programs at A level."

Lee
Ouch. That has to be one of the top put-downs ever posted.
Legacy tarnished?
Really?
Sad if that is what people think.

The haters have their own agenda and they just happen to be from 7A teams mostly Hibbing, Proctor and Denfeld.

Hermantown moving to AA is a big decision and not taken lightly.

So, if Hermantown was your team and your town, when would you have moved them to AA?

You have the option every 2 years:

2006 Win vs Blake 4-3 3rd Place
2007 Win vs DM 4-1 Championship
Could have moved after beating DM.
Obviously no move.

2008 Didn't make state
2009 Didn't make state
Could have moved after not making state for 2 straight years.
Obviously no move.

2010 Lost vs Breck 2-1
2011 Lost vs STA 5-4 OT
Could have moved after losing to Breck and STA.
STA stayed in A.
Obviously no move.

2012 Lost vs STA 5-1
2013 Lost vs STA 5-4
Could have moved after losing to STA for the 3rd straight time.
STA moved up after 3 consecutive titles and 5 A Championship Titles.
Would you have move your team now, Really?

2014 Lost vs EGF 7-3
2015 Lost vs EGF 5-4 OT[/b]
Could have moved after losing to EGF for the second straight time.
Again, would you have moved your team now, really?

2016 Win vs Breck 5-0: Breck has 4 Class A Championship Titles!!
Where is the hate, tarnished reputation and call to move even with loss?
2017 ????? Option to move up this year….

In reality, Hermantown has been the only public school to keep the private from totally dominating Class A hockey.

In my opinion, if it was my team and my decision, this is the first year I would consider moving the team to AA and I would make the move. Unfortunately, there is just no competition left in 7A. Hermantown hasn’t gotten any better. I could argue that the teams that played STA would beat this year’s team. It for sure would be a game. The reality is that HT has been able to stay consistent in its play over the last 10 years, but the rest of 7A and I think hockey in general has dropped. Hermantown is a pocket that is strong. Beating EAST is something that people would laugh at in the past even when HT could have given them all they could handle back in the STA days. Now, I think people, and more importantly, Hermantown people see that the HAWKS might be able to knock East off it’s high horse. How sweet that would be…
Valid points. But don't forget during that 7 year stretch they were completely dominating single A. What, 2-3 losses per year, sometimes less than that. It's nobody's fault but their own that they fell apart for six straight years in the championship game. I don't think anyone really felt bad for them. Probably karma at its glory.
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Post by rainier » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:51 pm

It is the ultimate irony that the strategy Plante used to build his legacy (collect banners by staying in single A) has turned out to be the very thing that has tarnished it. Karma indeed... :(
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Post by karl(east) » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:22 pm

Since this isn't actually official, let's confine our endless Hermantown conversation to the traditional venues...

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