7AA for 2017-2018

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:19 pm

Wow! Duluth East has 2 Mr. Hockey finalists and 12 Elite Leage players on their roster.....and a hall of fame head coach. Can you say, dominant!

hockey59 · Post by **hockey59** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:53 pm

kniven wrote:Wow! Duluth East has 2 Mr. Hockey finalists and 12 Elite Leage players on their roster.....and a hall of fame head coach. Can you say, dominant!

And as Brad Pitt said in Moneyball - "If you lose the last game of the year, nobody cares (gives a sh-t)"

MWS coach · Post by **MWS coach** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:56 pm

hockey59 wrote:
kniven wrote:Wow! Duluth East has 2 Mr. Hockey finalists and 12 Elite Leage players on their roster.....and a hall of fame head coach. Can you say, dominant!
And as Brad Pitt said in Moneyball - "If you lose the last game of the year, nobody cares (gives a sh-t)"

This could be the best team ever to lose a quarterfinal game as the number 1 seed!

hadenuf · Post by **hadenuf** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:59 pm

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN......(maybe)

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:09 pm

hadenuf wrote:IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN......(maybe)

I was really, really, really, really hoping their would be a chance to see Duluth East and CEC in the section final. Seeing Amsoil sol out, 10,000+ would have been a sight. Oh well. So close to my dream matchup in the dream game -the right to represent 7 AA at the Minnesota State High School hockey tournament. That’s the game I want to see before I die

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:50 pm

Usthockey13 wrote:They do it that way because of the southern teams in 7AA

Lame excuse. Still wrong.

Usthockey13 · Post by **Usthockey13** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:58 pm

TheHockeyDJ wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote:They do it that way because of the southern teams in 7AA
Lame excuse. Still wrong.

Hey they need to cater to Elk when they lose and have a long trip home

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:00 pm

Usthockey13 wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote:They do it that way because of the southern teams in 7AA
Lame excuse. Still wrong.
Hey they need to cater to Elk when they lose and have a long trip home

Has Elk River ever gone to state out of 7AA?

Usthockey13 · Post by **Usthockey13** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:11 pm

kniven wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote: Lame excuse. Still wrong.
Hey they need to cater to Elk when they lose and have a long trip home
Has Elk River ever gone to state out of 7AA?

Yes way back in 1999 with Paul Martin

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:12 pm

Usthockey13 wrote:
TheHockeyDJ wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote:They do it that way because of the southern teams in 7AA
Lame excuse. Still wrong.
Hey they need to cater to Elk when they lose and have a long trip home

LOL! It is at the point you stop wondering if the Elks will win 7AA, you just wonder how bad of a crash and burn it will be this time.

greenwayraider · Post by **greenwayraider** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:13 pm

They beat Hibbing in 3 overtimes. If memory serves me right the Hibbing goalie made 60+ saves.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:14 pm

Usthockey13 wrote:
kniven wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote: Hey they need to cater to Elk when they lose and have a long trip home
Has Elk River ever gone to state out of 7AA?
Yes way back in 1999 with Paul Martin

That is a long, long time. I’m thinking Elk River hockey hates being in 7AA. I hope they get out soon

Usthockey13 · Post by **Usthockey13** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:28 pm

oh do they ever. Yea i think they want out and the rest of the section wants them out too. They should get Brainerd back in 7AA

greenwayraider · Post by **greenwayraider** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:31 pm

Without Hermantown opting up I can’t see Elk River having any chance of being moved. Even then seems like Andover would be the more likely candidate for a move unless MSHSL allows only eight teams in 7AA.

Usthockey13 · Post by **Usthockey13** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:43 pm

greenwayraider wrote:Without Hermantown opting up I can’t see Elk River having any chance of being moved. Even then seems like Andover would be the more likely candidate for a move unless MSHSL allows only eight teams in 7AA.

Agreed, if Htown moved up I feel like they would still F Elk and move Andover. They should just move elk to 5 or 8.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:57 pm

Usthockey13 wrote:
greenwayraider wrote:Without Hermantown opting up I can’t see Elk River having any chance of being moved. Even then seems like Andover would be the more likely candidate for a move unless MSHSL allows only eight teams in 7AA.
Agreed, if Htown moved up I feel like they would still F Elk and move Andover. They should just move elk to 5 or 8.

Not 8, we have enough commie cidiots.

BodyShots · Post by **BodyShots** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:08 pm

elliott70 wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote:
greenwayraider wrote:Without Hermantown opting up I can’t see Elk River having any chance of being moved. Even then seems like Andover would be the more likely candidate for a move unless MSHSL allows only eight teams in 7AA.
Agreed, if Htown moved up I feel like they would still F Elk and move Andover. They should just move elk to 5 or 8.
Not 8, we have enough commie cidiots.

Be careful now. That's borderline bullying....

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:55 pm

Duluth East (146.

5-1-1 20-2-3 5.4 1.9 Won 2
No. 12 Andover (120.6) 6-3-0 19-5-0 5.0 1.9 Won 3
No. 16 Duluth Marshall (111.9) 3-3-0 16-7-2 4.1 2.0 Won 3
No. 18 Elk River/Zimmerman (110.1) 2-2-0 17-7-0 4.8 2.6 Won 3
No. 19 C-E-C (109.9) 3-3-1 17-7-1 4.6 2.5 Lost 1
No. 25 Forest Lake (96.5) 3-3-0 13-10-1 2.4 2.5 Won 2
No. 47 St. Francis (69.7) 2-2-0 13-11-0 4.0 3.3 Lost 1
No. 48 Grand Rapids (69.6) 2-5-0 6-17-1 1.6 4.3 Won 1
No. 69 Cambridge-Isanti (30

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:00 pm

BodyShots wrote:
elliott70 wrote:
Usthockey13 wrote: Agreed, if Htown moved up I feel like they would still F Elk and move Andover. They should just move elk to 5 or 8.
Not 8, we have enough commie cidiots.
Be careful now. That's borderline bullying....

I have been accused of that...
my response is always the same, push 'em to the ground and walk over the top of them.
Nah, we love having Buffalo and Rogers.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:19 pm

kniven wrote:Duluth East (146. 5-1-1 20-2-3 5.4 1.9 Won 2
No. 12 Andover (120.6) 6-3-0 19-5-0 5.0 1.9 Won 3
No. 16 Duluth Marshall (111.9) 3-3-0 16-7-2 4.1 2.0 Won 3
No. 18 Elk River/Zimmerman (110.1) 2-2-0 17-7-0 4.8 2.6 Won 3
No. 19 C-E-C (109.9) 3-3-1 17-7-1 4.6 2.5 Lost 1
No. 25 Forest Lake (96.5) 3-3-0 13-10-1 2.4 2.5 Won 2
No. 47 St. Francis (69.7) 2-2-0 13-11-0 4.0 3.3 Lost 1
No. 48 Grand Rapids (69.6) 2-5-0 6-17-1 1.6 4.3 Won 1
No. 69 Cambridge-Isanti (30

No. 16 Duluth Marshall (111.9) 16-7-2
No. 18 Elk River/Zimmerman (110.1) 17-7-0
No. 19 C-E-C (109.9) 17-7-1

All within the tie breaker. Assuming ER does not gain or lose much in tonight's game.
Class
Current TM Projected TM*
AA 6.0 6.3

These are the Tiebreakers as agreed to by the MSHSL.
1 Head to Head percentage
2 Conference Record percentage (if same Conference/Sub-District)
3 Overall Record percentage
4 Section Record percentage (min number of Section games needed by 5 EACH team or #4 is skipped) Hockey - 6

use 1 then 3
then QRF then coin toss

DM lost to CEC

Overall record
Pct assuming ER wins tonight 72% if they lose 68 % if they tie 70%
DM 64%
CEC 70%

So if ER wins or ties they are the 3 seed
CEC is 4
unless ER loses then 3
DM is the 5.

Traxler · Post by **Traxler** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:22 pm

elliott70 wrote:
kniven wrote:Duluth East (146. 5-1-1 20-2-3 5.4 1.9 Won 2
No. 12 Andover (120.6) 6-3-0 19-5-0 5.0 1.9 Won 3
No. 16 Duluth Marshall (111.9) 3-3-0 16-7-2 4.1 2.0 Won 3
No. 18 Elk River/Zimmerman (110.1) 2-2-0 17-7-0 4.8 2.6 Won 3
No. 19 C-E-C (109.9) 3-3-1 17-7-1 4.6 2.5 Lost 1
No. 25 Forest Lake (96.5) 3-3-0 13-10-1 2.4 2.5 Won 2
No. 47 St. Francis (69.7) 2-2-0 13-11-0 4.0 3.3 Lost 1
No. 48 Grand Rapids (69.6) 2-5-0 6-17-1 1.6 4.3 Won 1
No. 69 Cambridge-Isanti (30

No. 16 Duluth Marshall (111.9) 16-7-2
No. 18 Elk River/Zimmerman (110.1) 17-7-0
No. 19 C-E-C (109.9) 17-7-1

All within the tie breaker. Assuming ER does not gain or lose much in tonight's game.
Class
Current TM Projected TM*
AA 6.0 6.3

These are the Tiebreakers as agreed to by the MSHSL.
1 Head to Head percentage
2 Conference Record percentage (if same Conference/Sub-District)
3 Overall Record percentage
4 Section Record percentage (min number of Section games needed by 5 EACH team or #4 is skipped) Hockey - 6

use 1 then 3
then QRF then coin toss

DM lost to CEC

Overall record
Pct assuming ER wins tonight 72% if they lose 68 % if they tie 70%
DM 64%
CEC 70%

So if ER wins or ties they are the 3 seed
CEC is 4
unless ER loses then 3
DM is the 5.

You are a math wiz. Thanks for the detailed explanation.

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:36 pm

I would like to see Elk River put in section 5 with their geographical rivals. It would be fun to see a Rapids vs Elk River State Tourney matchup someday.

greenwayraider · Post by **greenwayraider** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:46 pm

I have a feeling that the teams currently in Section 5 are completely OK with Elk River and Andover being in Section 7.

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:20 pm

Interestingly yesterday Mike Randolph was quoted as saying last years top line for GR was not only better than the line with his son, Toninato, and Olson, but the most dominant line he’d ever seen in the tourney. Coming from the rival coach I think that puts to rest some crazy notion that East’s top line (good they are) is somehow on that same level as McLaughlin, Miller, and Hain.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:50 pm

Elk River loosing to Armstrong Cooper late in the 3rd....