Grand Rapids vs. Virginia

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Who wins

Poll ended at Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:38 pm

Rapids
3
19%
Virginia
13
81%
 
Total votes: 16

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Grand Rapids vs. Virginia

Post by Rangers40 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:38 pm

Could rapids lose to 2 iron range teams this season?

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Post by grindiangrad-80 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:53 am

Yes.

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Post by hadenuf » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:57 am

Will they win a game this year?

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Post by elliott70 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:12 am

THawks remaining schedule:
They can get some players back and they can get better.
Even without that they could win some games.
*** good opportunities

Fri Dec 8 - @ Roseau
Sat Dec 9 - @ Warroad ***

Thu Dec 14 - @ Edina
Fri Dec 15 - @ Eden Prairie

Sat Dec 16 - @ Elk River
Fri Dec 22@ Brainerd

Sat Dec 23 - @ Moorhead
Fri Dec 29 - Forest Lake ***

Sat Dec 30 - Andover
Fri Jan 5 - Maple Grove

Sat Jan 6 - Holy Family
Tue Jan 9 - @ Hermantown

Thu Jan 11 - Duluth East
Tue Jan 16 - @ Cloquet-Esko-Carlton

Thu Jan 18 - @ Hibbing/Chisholm ***
Tue Jan 23 - @ Duluth Marshall

Sat Jan 27 - Hill-Murray
Sat Feb 3 - Wayzata

Mon Feb 5 - Bemidji
Sat Feb 10 - White Bear Lake

Tue Feb 13 Cloquet
Thu Feb 15 - Hermantown

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Post by grindiangrad-80 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:50 am

I tuned in last night and it was 0-0 when I fell asleep. Sounded like GR had a few more scoring chances than in previous games. I woke up and saw a 4-2 final. Couldn't find any info as far as shots on goal, etc.

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Post by elliott70 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:55 am

Grand Rapids 0 1 1 = 2
Virginia/Mountain Iron-Buhl 0 4 0 = 4

POWER PLAYS
Grand Rapids 1 for 6 (16.67%)
Virginia/Mountain Iron-Buhl 2 for 7 (28.57%)

SHOTS
Grand Rapids 4 5 9 = 18
Virginia/Mountain Iron-Buhl 5 11 15 = 31

PENALTIES
Grand Rapids 26 minutes on 9 infractions
Virginia/Mountain Iron-Buhl 12 minutes on 6 infractions

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Post by boblee » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:49 pm

Being slightly displaced from GR hockey over the past couple years now... is Nuch locally liked/respected? I saw an on camera interview and I wasn't impressed. Didn't seem fair to judge based on that, though.

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Post by hadenuf » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:37 pm

I am sure he is learning that there is a lot more to coaching a high school team than showing up for games and practices.
Nice guy but he was given an empty tool box.

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Post by GR3343 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:15 pm

hadenuf wrote:I am sure he is learning that there is a lot more to coaching a high school team than showing up for games and practices.
Nice guy but he was given an empty tool box.
John Rothstein was asked why leave with what is there. He simply replied what kind of guy would i be if i left Trent with the cupboard bare. Trent didnt get the message - he rode the horses that GR had then left when there was nothing in the cupboard. He promised - he renigged - and there are people that revere him for "bringing" a state title here. That team was winning no matter who was coaching. Their title was more of a testament to the players - they won it - they would've regardless
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Post by GR3343 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:20 pm

hadenuf wrote:I am sure he is learning that there is a lot more to coaching a high school team than showing up for games and practices.
Nice guy but he was given an empty tool box.
John Rothstein was asked why leave with what is there. He simply replied what kind of guy would i be if i left Trent with the cupboard bare. Trent didnt get the message - he rode the horses that GR had then left when there was nothing in the cupboard. He promised - he renigged - and there are people that revere him for "bringing" a state title here. That team was winning no matter who was coaching. Their title was more of a testament to the players - they won it - they would've regardless
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Post by north_bear » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:37 pm

GR3343 wrote:
hadenuf wrote:I am sure he is learning that there is a lot more to coaching a high school team than showing up for games and practices.
Nice guy but he was given an empty tool box.
John Rothstein was asked why leave with what is there. He simply replied what kind of guy would i be if i left Trent with the cupboard bare. Trent didnt get the message - he rode the horses that GR had then left when there was nothing in the cupboard. He promised - he renigged - and there are people that revere him for "bringing" a state title here. That team was winning no matter who was coaching. Their title was more of a testament to the players - they won it - they would've regardless


One of the more foolish statements I've read in awhile. You obviously forgot or aren't familiar with all the drama and off ice issues surrounding the team the last two years. Trent is a good person and was a good coach. Without him I could have easily seen the team imploding.
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Post by northwoods oldtimer » Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:49 pm

Virginia 4 - Rapids 2 :lol:

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Post by norcon » Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:59 pm

north_bear wrote:
GR3343 wrote:
hadenuf wrote:I am sure he is learning that there is a lot more to coaching a high school team than showing up for games and practices.
Nice guy but he was given an empty tool box.
John Rothstein was asked why leave with what is there. He simply replied what kind of guy would i be if i left Trent with the cupboard bare. Trent didnt get the message - he rode the horses that GR had then left when there was nothing in the cupboard. He promised - he renigged - and there are people that revere him for "bringing" a state title here. That team was winning no matter who was coaching. Their title was more of a testament to the players - they won it - they would've regardless


One of the more foolish statements I've read in awhile. You obviously forgot or aren't familiar with all the drama and off ice issues surrounding the team the last two years. Trent is a good person and was a good coach. Without him I could have easily seen the team imploding.
Trent did a decent job, but I pretty much agree with GR3343. Both years he had a team loaded with talent, especially the 2015/16 team. Definitely underachieved with that group. Maybe he was part of the problem with the off ice issues. He didn’t appear to be very committed to the program. He wanted to jump ship as soon as there was any controversy. Dealing with problems comes with the job. Do you think Rapids is the only school with off ice issues? Just ask Dave Esse about what he went through in Cloquet over the years.

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Post by boblee » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:39 am

norcon wrote:
north_bear wrote:
GR3343 wrote:
hadenuf wrote:I am sure he is learning that there is a lot more to coaching a high school team than showing up for games and practices.
Nice guy but he was given an empty tool box.
John Rothstein was asked why leave with what is there. He simply replied what kind of guy would i be if i left Trent with the cupboard bare. Trent didnt get the message - he rode the horses that GR had then left when there was nothing in the cupboard. He promised - he renigged - and there are people that revere him for "bringing" a state title here. That team was winning no matter who was coaching. Their title was more of a testament to the players - they won it - they would've regardless


One of the more foolish statements I've read in awhile. You obviously forgot or aren't familiar with all the drama and off ice issues surrounding the team the last two years. Trent is a good person and was a good coach. Without him I could have easily seen the team imploding.
Trent did a decent job, but I pretty much agree with GR3343. Both years he had a team loaded with talent, especially the 2015/16 team. Definitely underachieved with that group. Maybe he was part of the problem with the off ice issues. He didn’t appear to be very committed to the program. He wanted to jump ship as soon as there was any controversy. Dealing with problems comes with the job. Do you think Rapids is the only school with off ice issues? Just ask Dave Esse about what he went through in Cloquet over the years.
I want to underachieve and take third place in the Class AA state hockey tournament.

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Post by norcon » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:29 am

boblee wrote:
norcon wrote:
north_bear wrote:
GR3343 wrote:
hadenuf wrote:I am sure he is learning that there is a lot more to coaching a high school team than showing up for games and practices.
Nice guy but he was given an empty tool box.
John Rothstein was asked why leave with what is there. He simply replied what kind of guy would i be if i left Trent with the cupboard bare. Trent didnt get the message - he rode the horses that GR had then left when there was nothing in the cupboard. He promised - he renigged - and there are people that revere him for "bringing" a state title here. That team was winning no matter who was coaching. Their title was more of a testament to the players - they won it - they would've regardless


One of the more foolish statements I've read in awhile. You obviously forgot or aren't familiar with all the drama and off ice issues surrounding the team the last two years. Trent is a good person and was a good coach. Without him I could have easily seen the team imploding.
Trent did a decent job, but I pretty much agree with GR3343. Both years he had a team loaded with talent, especially the 2015/16 team. Definitely underachieved with that group. Maybe he was part of the problem with the off ice issues. He didn’t appear to be very committed to the program. He wanted to jump ship as soon as there was any controversy. Dealing with problems comes with the job. Do you think Rapids is the only school with off ice issues? Just ask Dave Esse about what he went through in Cloquet over the years.
I want to underachieve and take third place in the Class AA state hockey tournament.
I was pretty much referring to the whole body of work that season. I believe they did underachieve. The losses to Wayzata towards the end of the season and the state semi-final against EP and Middlestat were good examples. It appeared to me that the coach was not proficient at making in-game adjustments.

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Post by comp1911 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:03 pm

GR3343 wrote:
hadenuf wrote:I am sure he is learning that there is a lot more to coaching a high school team than showing up for games and practices.
Nice guy but he was given an empty tool box.
John Rothstein was asked why leave with what is there. He simply replied what kind of guy would i be if i left Trent with the cupboard bare. Trent didnt get the message - he rode the horses that GR had then left when there was nothing in the cupboard. He promised - he renigged - and there are people that revere him for "bringing" a state title here. That team was winning no matter who was coaching. Their title was more of a testament to the players - they won it - they would've regardless
That's a bingo.

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Post by Green and White Fan » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:19 pm

Grand Rapids' goalie stole two games for them up north on the weekend. Outplayed pretty heavily they beat both Roseau and Warroad behind a great goaltender. If you can't score on a team, it is really hard to win. He had 40 saves in a overtime win Friday and 42 saves Saturday,. 964 save percentage.
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Post by boblee » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:56 pm

I'm not going to bash Klatt, but I think he had something to do with the success. To discount that completely seems foolish. With that said, coaches get way too much blame when a team struggles and way too much credit when a team succeeds.

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Post by grindiangrad-80 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:42 pm

I don't have anything to add to this thread. Just wanted to run my post total to 1980- possibly the greatest year in hockey history. 8)

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Post by elliott70 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:54 pm

grindiangrad-80 wrote:I don't have anything to add to this thread. Just wanted to run my post total to 1980- possibly the greatest year in hockey history. 8)
After 1962, 1964, 1965, 1966 and 1972.

'63 should have been there.

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Post by hadenuf » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:59 pm

grindiangrad-80 wrote:I don't have anything to add to this thread. Just wanted to run my post total to 1980- possibly the greatest year in hockey history. 8)

Unless you count the losses to Chisholm and Aurora Hoyt Lakes. 😳

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Post by greenwayraider » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:31 pm

elliott70 wrote:
grindiangrad-80 wrote:I don't have anything to add to this thread. Just wanted to run my post total to 1980- possibly the greatest year in hockey history. 8)
After 1962, 1964, 1965, 1966 and 1972.

'63 should have been there.
You sound like a Falls guy. 🙂. Still remember how Huffer Christianson seemed to beat Greenway single-handedly in 1962.

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Post by elliott70 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:50 pm

greenwayraider wrote:
elliott70 wrote:
grindiangrad-80 wrote:I don't have anything to add to this thread. Just wanted to run my post total to 1980- possibly the greatest year in hockey history. 8)
After 1962, 1964, 1965, 1966 and 1972.

'63 should have been there.
You sound like a Falls guy. 🙂. Still remember how Huffer Christianson seemed to beat Greenway single-handedly in 1962.
And Fichuk and Sheehy, but Antonovich got the best of Demarchi.

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Post by greenwayraider » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:07 pm

Didn’t the Falls coop with Fort Frances at that time.

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Post by elliott70 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:14 pm

greenwayraider wrote:Didn’t the Falls coop with Fort Frances at that time.
No, Muskies had their own team and did very well in the northern Ontario league.
Those were some rough games, on and off the ice.

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