PAGE STAT - 21 Year Top 35

tezer13 · Post by **tezer13** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:42 am

Team Record Rating
1 DULUTH EAST ..... 434-146-25 ... 440.44
2 HILL-MURRAY ..... 442-138-22 ... 439.68
3 EDEN PRAIRIE .... 409-150-31 ... 439.31
4 EDINA .............. 434-136-21 ... 438.45
5 MOORHEAD ......... 386-158-39 ... 431.34
6 ELK RIVER ....... 391-162-19 ... 427.07
7 BLOOM JEFFERSON . 366-177-31 ... 423.61
8 WHITE BEAR LAKE . 371-180-24 ... 420.47
9 WAYZATA ......... 334-197-30 ... 417.35
10 CENTENNIAL ...... 390-142-30 ... 414.87
11 MINNETONKA ...... 321-216-22 ... 413.91
12 BRECK .......... 460-121-14 ... 412.31
13 BENILDE ST MARG . 381-162-24 ... 411.40
14 BLAINE .......... 366-190-24 ... 411.30
15 BURNSVILLE ...... 303-224-31 ... 409.15
16 ROSEAU .......... 372-192-17 ... 408.27
17 MAPLE GROVE ..... 328-202-31 ... 407.70
18 GRAND RAPIDS .... 323-204-34 ... 407.39
19 HERMANTOWN ...... 482-104-20 ... 406.23
20 HOLY ANGELS ..... 384-153-23 ... 406.04
21 ROSEVILLE ....... 334-194-30 ... 402.52
22 WARROAD ......... 411-163-19 ... 402.10
23 ST THOMAS ACADE . 371-202-17 ... 396.11
24 CLOQUET ......... 313-213-28 ... 393.10
25 EAGAN .......... 299-236-21 ... 391.86
26 HIBBING ......... 329-208-24 ... 387.62
27 APPLE VALLEY .... 263-267-24 ... 384.69
28 ANOKA .......... 284-251-21 ... 383.86
29 STILLWATER ...... 250-267-31 ... 381.24
30 DULUTH MARSHALL . 352-200-20 ... 379.98
31 EAST GRAND FORK . 329-225-28 ... 379.44
32 BEMIDJI ......... 279-248-21 ... 378.82
33 HASTINGS ........ 281-259-19 ... 375.87
34 FOREST LAKE ..... 245-262-31 ... 375.35
35 BRAINERD ........ 312-204-19 ... 375.07

tezer13 · Post by **tezer13** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:51 am

I loaded all of Karl's PageStat Rankings into a DB a few years back and recently updated them. What you see are the totals for each team over the last 21 years.

I thought it was pretty interesting to see.

Here are my first thoughts:
The top 4 are separated by less than 2 points over 21 years.
Bloom Jefferson at #7 was a little surprising.
Other than that the top 11 seemed to be what I would expect.

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:28 am

Thanks.

Traxler · Post by **Traxler** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:07 am

Jefferson at 7 doesn’t surprise me. They have had a lot of very dominant years and many strong years. It is only fairly recent that their quality has dipped.

mnmouth · Post by **mnmouth** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:38 am

It would be more interesting if we had all the indicators that go into producing these rankings. Obviously, overall record for the 21 year period is not the only factor taken into consideration when compiling this list. What else goes into it?

Post by **east hockey** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:42 am

tezer13 wrote:I loaded all of Karl's PageStat Rankings into a DB a few years back and recently updated them. What you see are the totals for each team over the last 21 years.

I thought it was pretty interesting to see.

Here are my first thoughts:
The top 4 are separated by less than 2 points over 21 years.
Bloom Jefferson at #7 was a little surprising.
Other than that the top 11 seemed to be what I would expect.

Just a small detail, but they're not Karl's PageStat ratings. They're mine.

mnmouth, when you speak of "factors", what do you mean? How are PageStat ratings calculated? The FAQ is posted on the minnhock.com website on the PageStat page.

Lee

mnmouth · Post by **mnmouth** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:59 am

east hockey wrote:
tezer13 wrote:I loaded all of Karl's PageStat Rankings into a DB a few years back and recently updated them. What you see are the totals for each team over the last 21 years.

I thought it was pretty interesting to see.

Here are my first thoughts:
The top 4 are separated by less than 2 points over 21 years.
Bloom Jefferson at #7 was a little surprising.
Other than that the top 11 seemed to be what I would expect.
Just a small detail, but they're not Karl's PageStat ratings. They're mine.

mnmouth, when you speak of "factors", what do you mean? How are PageStat ratings calculated? The FAQ is posted on the minnhock.com website on the PageStat page.

Lee

Sorry - by factors I mean what went in to this particular listing. Overall records? Playoffs? State tournament records?? Overall goals scored??? If the same as PageStat, then I can check out the FAQs myself.

green4 · Post by **green4** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:28 am

I think it is interesting that Hermantown is ahead of St.Thomas lol

Post by **east hockey** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:40 am

mnmouth wrote:
east hockey wrote:
tezer13 wrote:I loaded all of Karl's PageStat Rankings into a DB a few years back and recently updated them. What you see are the totals for each team over the last 21 years.

I thought it was pretty interesting to see.

Here are my first thoughts:
The top 4 are separated by less than 2 points over 21 years.
Bloom Jefferson at #7 was a little surprising.
Other than that the top 11 seemed to be what I would expect.
Just a small detail, but they're not Karl's PageStat ratings. They're mine.

mnmouth, when you speak of "factors", what do you mean? How are PageStat ratings calculated? The FAQ is posted on the minnhock.com website on the PageStat page.

Lee
Sorry - by factors I mean what went in to this particular listing. Overall records? Playoffs? State tournament records?? Overall goals scored??? If the same as PageStat, then I can check out the FAQs myself.

It appears that it was just a simple adding of each team's final PageStat rating for each year.

Lee

Stang5280 · Post by **Stang5280** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:14 am

Teams ranked higher than I would expect:
Breck (#1 A team, well above HT, uh oh)
Burnsville
Roseville
Hibbing
Forest Lake

Teams ranked lower than I would expect:
Hermantown
STA
Mahtomedi (Unranked)
CDH (Unranked)

Slap Shot · Post by **Slap Shot** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:15 pm

Traxler wrote:Jefferson at 7 doesn’t surprise me. They have had a lot of very dominant years and many strong years. It is only fairly recent that their quality has dipped.

They've been supbar for nearly a decade. I'd expect them to fall out of the Top 10 soon. And while Burnsville perhaps never reached as many highs as BJ I am surprised there's that much separation between those 2.

[edit]Looking back they were solid/great '08-'09 and '09-'10 but otherwise 119-108-17 since 2006.

tezer13 · Post by **tezer13** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:27 pm

east hockey wrote:
tezer13 wrote:I loaded all of Karl's PageStat Rankings into a DB a few years back and recently updated them. What you see are the totals for each team over the last 21 years.

I thought it was pretty interesting to see.

Here are my first thoughts:
The top 4 are separated by less than 2 points over 21 years.
Bloom Jefferson at #7 was a little surprising.
Other than that the top 11 seemed to be what I would expect.
Just a small detail, but they're not Karl's PageStat ratings. They're mine.

mnmouth, when you speak of "factors", what do you mean? How are PageStat ratings calculated? The FAQ is posted on the minnhock.com website on the PageStat page.

Lee

Sorry Lee

And you are correct, it was simply adding up every ones year-end final ranking from PageStat

WendyClark · Post by **WendyClark** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:11 pm

Stang5280 wrote:Teams ranked higher than I would expect:
Breck (#1 A team, well above HT, uh oh)
Burnsville
Roseville
Hibbing
Forest Lake

Teams ranked lower than I would expect:
Hermantown
STA
Mahtomedi (Unranked)
CDH (Unranked)

Coach Kivihalme and da Burnsville Braves have consistently had one of if not the toughest schedules in the state over the last 15 years

They never should been pulled out of section 1 and if they weren't moved, the program would have made many more trips to St paul with some very talented teams