Brimsek Finalists

Duluthguy · Post by **Duluthguy** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:26 am

Along with the Mr. Hockey finalists (posted elsewhere), the Brimsek finalists were also announced for the state's top senior goalie:

Ben Garrity, Rosemount
Atticus Kelly, St. Thomas Academy

bardown27 · Post by **bardown27** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:31 am

Surprised they took two AA goalies, and both of them came from the same section. Both are very deserving, but don't they usually take a Class A goalie and a Class AA goalie?

Slap Shot · Post by **Slap Shot** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:15 pm

Maybe they're the clear cut front runners but surprised they couldn't do a more comprehensive list. imho under consideration (apologies for the lack of formatting):

Name Team GP MIN W L T SOG SV GA GAA SV % SO
Atticus Kelly St. Thomas Academy 20 917:56:00 17 1 1 389 364 25 1.39 0.936 3
Ben Garrity Rosemount 22 1125:03:00 17 4 1 581 548 33 1.5 0.943 6
Jack Branby St. Paul Highland Park 23 1155:28:00 16 7 0 791 745 46 2.03 0.942 3
Jack Cusey Mankato East 24 1093:25:00 10 9 2 558 520 38 1.77 0.932 1
Jackson Hjelle Delano 22 1123:32:00 10 12 0 684 637 47 2.13 0.931 3
Henry Welsch Lakeville South 24 1254:59:00 12 10 2 650 604 46 1.87 0.929 4
Brennan Boynton Champlin Park 23 1099:13:00 13 6 2 576 535 41 1.9 0.929 4
Brady Peterson Forest Lake 24 1053:37:00 12 8 1 618 574 44 2.13 0.929 2
Ben Fritsinger Andover 23 1004:43:00 15 3 0 490 455 35 1.78 0.929 3
Nick Corneliusen Thief River Falls 24 1121:43:00 10 10 2 613 568 45 2.05 0.927 4

TheNightman · Post by **TheNightman** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:17 pm

You could make an argument for Hjelle or Leonard but I think they got the right guys.

Kelly should win it.

kniven · Post by **kniven** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:54 pm

TheNightman wrote:You could make an argument for Hjelle or Leonard but I think they got the right guys.

Kelly should win it.

No Holum? #wierd

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:42 pm

kniven wrote:
TheNightman wrote:You could make an argument for Hjelle or Leonard but I think they got the right guys.

Kelly should win it.
No Holum? #wierd

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?

Matty Fitzgerald and Holum they got completely snubbed!
Fitzy at .920% on a bad team
Holum at .907 on the worst Grand Rapids team in school history.

WHAT A FLIPPING JOKE!!!

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:46 pm

northwoods oldtimer wrote:
kniven wrote:
TheNightman wrote:You could make an argument for Hjelle or Leonard but I think they got the right guys.

Kelly should win it.
No Holum? #wierd
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?

Matty Fitzgerald and Holum they got completely snubbed!
Fitzy at .920% on a bad team
Holum at .907 on the worst Grand Rapids team in school history.

The two candidates picked are adequate backups to the guys above. WHAT A FLIPPING JOKE!!!

Oldtimer, I would have thought by now you would have learned,
'not what you know but who you know.'

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:48 pm

elliott70 wrote:
northwoods oldtimer wrote:
kniven wrote: No Holum? #wierd
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?

Matty Fitzgerald and Holum they got completely snubbed!
Fitzy at .920% on a bad team
Holum at .907 on the worst Grand Rapids team in school history.

The two candidates picked are adequate backups to the guys above. WHAT A FLIPPING JOKE!!!
Oldtimer, I would have thought by now you would have learned,
'not what you know but who you know.'

Ain't that the truth.
I am a fired up old man!!

fastncrash · Post by **fastncrash** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:50 pm

elliott70 wrote:
northwoods oldtimer wrote:
kniven wrote: No Holum? #wierd
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?

Matty Fitzgerald and Holum they got completely snubbed!
Fitzy at .920% on a bad team
Holum at .907 on the worst Grand Rapids team in school history.

The two candidates picked are adequate backups to the guys above. WHAT A FLIPPING JOKE!!!
Oldtimer, I would have thought by now you would have learned,
'not what you know but who you know.'

Ding, Ding, Ding!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:57 pm

fastncrash wrote:
elliott70 wrote:
northwoods oldtimer wrote: ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?

Matty Fitzgerald and Holum they got completely snubbed!
Fitzy at .920% on a bad team
Holum at .907 on the worst Grand Rapids team in school history.

The two candidates picked are adequate backups to the guys above. WHAT A FLIPPING JOKE!!!
Oldtimer, I would have thought by now you would have learned,
'not what you know but who you know.'
Ding, Ding, Ding!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!

Straight up!

Serious question is there anybody on the evaluation committee that can explain how 2 senior goalies post plus 90% averaging 40 shots per game (Holum) and 30 per game (Fitzgerald).
Those kids constantly got barraged by bang bang shots all season long.

Got that off my chest. I feel good now

GoalieDefense · Post by **GoalieDefense** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:33 pm

Oldtimer, how about the FLake goalie as well.

Peterson has played 21 games, seen 618 shots, with 929%

Fritzgerald has played 22 games, seen 598 shots, with 920%

I think the area code and jersey color might play a factor in this as well.

My vote has to be Garrity now, has seen as much rubber as the above two on a team he has carried.

Hockeylogger · Post by **Hockeylogger** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:23 am

Fitzgerald and Holum are both excellent goalies playing on very average or poor teams. This award is for the best goalie, without these 2 on their respective teams they win very few games. Holum especially, he won them games they shouldn't have and kept it out of running time in others where it should have been.

But then again, the north vs south bias seems to be prevalent.

Hockeylogger · Post by **Hockeylogger** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:27 am

Holum is the best hs goalie that I have seen in a long time, he could be a diamond in the rough for someone who takes a shot on him.

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:20 am

GoalieDefense wrote:Oldtimer, how about the FLake goalie as well.

Peterson has played 21 games, seen 618 shots, with 929%

Fritzgerald has played 22 games, seen 598 shots, with 920%

I think the area code and jersey color might play a factor in this as well.

My vote has to be Garrity now, has seen as much rubber as the above two on a team he has carried.

Good call out. The Peterson kid deserves the cred for his teams success no doubt. I don't wish to slight any kid deserving the award to include the 2 finalist. I thought in years past there was more than 2 finalist and the kids were invited down to St. Paul to the banquet in order to represent their respective schools. Understand there is one winner but we have a good group of kids here that should get recognized for a job well done.

GoalieDefense · Post by **GoalieDefense** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:44 am

Totally agree with you NW Oldtimer.

boblee · Post by **boblee** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:49 am

Hockeylogger wrote:Holum is the best hs goalie that I have seen in a long time, he could be a diamond in the rough for someone who takes a shot on him.

He was the second best goalie on his team last year. So this is an overstatement.

That said - he is the best goalie in the state right now. He shouldn't have just been a finalist, he should have won the award.

green4 · Post by **green4** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:19 am

Yeah, I hear what all you guys are saying, Holum and Fitzgerald have been great, but so have the kids who were nominated for the award. Kelly and Garrity have the best stats of anyone in the state this year.

Garrity of Rosemount is 1st in the state for save percentage with .945. He is 2nd in GAA with 1.43 and he is 4th in wins with 18.

Kelly is 3rd in the state for save % with .939, 2nd in GAA with 1.32 and also tied for 4th with 18 wins.

Holum and Fitzgerald are not top 10 for any of those categories

Hjelle is tied at 6th in save % with .931, but not top 10 anywhere else

Lenonard is 7th in GAA with 1.57 and has 17 wins, but not to 10 in save %.

Peterson from forest lake having a nice year is tied for 10th in save %, but no other top 10 stats.

Holum might be the best goalie in the state, but it is not easy to prove that when you are on a bad team. Most people think Carey Price is the best goalie in the NHL or at least one of them, this year he is not even close to winning the Veniza because his team is bad and has bad stats.

I think they got the right two guys.

WarmUpTheBus · Post by **WarmUpTheBus** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:42 am

Good team, bad team. North vs. South. AA vs. A Who you know vs who you don't know. Maybe all are factors so in an attempt to compare apples-to-apples here are the stats from the Elite League where all the goalies played on good teams against good competition.

Shots Goals GAA SVS SV% Minutes
Gabe Holum 333 31 3.1 302 .907 598:19
Jackson Helle 424 39 3.1 385 .908 744:10
Ben Garrity 343 39 3.9 304 .886 596:42
Atticus Kelly 455 40 3.6 415 .912 659:27
Matt Fitzgerald 387 47 4.3 340 .879 659:00
Ben Fritzinger 463 64 5.6 399 .862 682:38

WestMetro · Post by **WestMetro** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:28 pm

Wasn’t happy with Mr Hockey top 10 , so may as well chime in here too

Think Brimsek ought to expand finalists to 3 or 5 , Since Minnesota goalies are expanding their overall skill and North American recognition level so much in the last 10 years

Having said that, I’ve been watching Holum and Fitzgerald at the elite League and varsity level for so many years that I can’t even keep track of them all.

One of them should’ve gotten the nod for a finalist slot , Hard to pick between the two but I would have given it to Holum.

As far as the two metros, Kelly gets my vote.

Conrad · Post by **Conrad** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:40 pm

Kelly is a great goalie and will be the key in STA finally winning the coveted AA championship. However, with the Vannali's past coaching failures at the AA level, he is going to have to be more than just great, unfortunately.

WarmUpTheBus · Post by **WarmUpTheBus** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:49 pm

WestMetro wrote:Wasn’t happy with Mr Hockey top 10 , so may as well chime in here too

Think Brimsek ought to expand finalists to 3 or 5 , Since Minnesota goalies are expanding their overall skill and North American recognition level so much in the last 10 years

Having said that, I’ve been watching Holum and Fitzgerald at the elite League and varsity level for so many years that I can’t even keep track of them all.

One of them should’ve gotten the nod for a finalist slot , Hard to pick between the two but I would have given it to Holum.

As far as the two metros, Kelly gets my vote.

Do you think Stejskal taking over as the #1 GK last year and leading GR to the State Championship may have hurt Holum's stature for this award?

WestMetro · Post by **WestMetro** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:05 pm

Don’t think so myself

Probably more that GR fell off radar this year

I’d bet he was third in the voting

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:29 am

WestMetro wrote:Wasn’t happy with Mr Hockey top 10 , so may as well chime in here too

Think Brimsek ought to expand finalists to 3 or 5 , Since Minnesota goalies are expanding their overall skill and North American recognition level so much in the last 10 years

Having said that, I’ve been watching Holum and Fitzgerald at the elite League and varsity level for so many years that I can’t even keep track of them all.

One of them should’ve gotten the nod for a finalist slot , Hard to pick between the two but I would have given it to Holum.

As far as the two metros, Kelly gets my vote.

Great

West Metro and agree with your commentary. Thanks for chiming in on the subject.

mulefarm · Post by **mulefarm** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:49 am

Just curious on how Mn goalies are expanding their skill and NA recognition?

north_bear · Post by **north_bear** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:28 am

northwoods oldtimer wrote:
WestMetro wrote:Wasn’t happy with Mr Hockey top 10 , so may as well chime in here too

Think Brimsek ought to expand finalists to 3 or 5 , Since Minnesota goalies are expanding their overall skill and North American recognition level so much in the last 10 years

Having said that, I’ve been watching Holum and Fitzgerald at the elite League and varsity level for so many years that I can’t even keep track of them all.

One of them should’ve gotten the nod for a finalist slot , Hard to pick between the two but I would have given it to Holum.

As far as the two metros, Kelly gets my vote.
Great West Metro and agree with your commentary. Thanks for chiming in on the subject.

Definitely agree to expanding the finalists list. It doesn't make sense to only pick two. There's definitely more than two goalies that belong in the top tier conversation.