Ranking MN U16 Programs
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:33 am
At the U16 level, what are the top programs (Blades, Magicians, Blizzard, MN Hockey programs, etc.)?
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Right, hard to miss that one isn't it? It also looks like the "Blue Army" is another organization that has recently popped up.O-townClown wrote:Shattuck-St. Mary's has the Minnesota bid to Nationals. Again.
They are the only one eligible, correct? Should be interesting when Gentry develops a competitive U16 team in the next year or two.O-townClown wrote:Shattuck-St. Mary's has the Minnesota bid to Nationals. Again.
I don't think so. My understanding is that Minnesota has Tier I teams by district that play before the season starts to qualify a team to play against Shattuck to go to Nationals.ThatMNHockeyGuy62 wrote: They are the only one eligible, correct? Should be interesting when Gentry develops a competitive U16 team in the next year or two.
ThatMNHockeyGuy62 wrote:They are the only one eligible, correct? Should be interesting when Gentry develops a competitive U16 team in the next year or two.O-townClown wrote:Shattuck-St. Mary's has the Minnesota bid to Nationals. Again.
Correct, but the original question was about MN U16 programs that play in tournaments in the fall, etc., not necessarily teams recognized/able to attempt to qualify for Tier I nationals.O-townClown wrote:I don't think so. My understanding is that Minnesota has Tier I teams by district that play before the season starts to qualify a team to play against Shattuck to go to Nationals.ThatMNHockeyGuy62 wrote: They are the only one eligible, correct? Should be interesting when Gentry develops a competitive U16 team in the next year or two.
SSM beat the Minnesota Green Giants on Nov. 7th.
Minnesota Green Giants, according to My Hockey Rankings, are the MN HP Tier I Midget champions. Other teams are the Grey Ducks, Lakers, Polars & Moose.
By my count that gives Minnesota six Tier I teams at 16U. Never heard of Blue Army. I can't imagine they are Tier I.
As far as Gentry Academy, I thought they were working on an MSHSL Varsity team. If they wish to compete at 16U Tier I it would delay having a competitive Varsity for another two years probably.
https://www.minnesotahockey.org/page/sh ... tier-i-16u
Original inquiry was about Tier I programs. A lot of out-of-season club hockey in Minnesota could be considered "AAA" level or equivalent play to winter Tier I.InThePipes wrote:Correct, but the original question was about MN U16 programs that play in tournaments in the fall, etc., not necessarily teams recognized/able to attempt to qualify for Tier I nationals.
I know this is a bit off topic now, but are there any credible articles or evidence saying this is actually happening?? I've heard some rumors but assumed they were just that. I won't pretend to be in the know on the rules here, but doesn't the MSHSL have a rule against schools like Gentry (a la Achiever Academy)? If people have an issue with private schools having an unfair advantage, I don't want to imagine the controversy of allowing Gentry a team...O-townClown wrote:As far as Gentry Academy, I thought they were working on an MSHSL Varsity team. If they wish to compete at 16U Tier I it would delay having a competitive Varsity for another two years probably.ThatMNHockeyGuy62 wrote: They are the only one eligible, correct? Should be interesting when Gentry develops a competitive U16 team in the next year or two.
The Northern Educate deal was tripped up by residency. As I recall a team was nuked from postseason play right as they playoffs were beginning. You are correct. If Gentry wants to be a billet program that's not likely.ThatMNHockeyGuy62 wrote:I know this is a bit off topic now, but are there any credible articles or evidence saying this is actually happening?? I've heard some rumors but assumed they were just that. I won't pretend to be in the know on the rules here, but doesn't the MSHSL have a rule against schools like Gentry (a la Achiever Academy)? If people have an issue with private schools having an unfair advantage, I don't want to imagine the controversy of allowing Gentry a team...
If I remember correctly, (and I might not), it was the Girls Program at Achiever and they had already made it to the Section Final before they got kaiboshed. Their argument was that it was a brand new "School" so everyone was eligible. They weren't allowed to play the section final so their opponent got an auto bid to State. Since the Gentry "School", has been in existence for awhile, I would think anyone who started 9th grade there, or followed the other transfer, "rules" would be eligible for MSHSL.O-townClown wrote:The Northern Educate deal was tripped up by residency. As I recall a team was nuked from postseason play right as they playoffs were beginning. You are correct. If Gentry wants to be a billet program that's not likely.ThatMNHockeyGuy62 wrote:I know this is a bit off topic now, but are there any credible articles or evidence saying this is actually happening?? I've heard some rumors but assumed they were just that. I won't pretend to be in the know on the rules here, but doesn't the MSHSL have a rule against schools like Gentry (a la Achiever Academy)? If people have an issue with private schools having an unfair advantage, I don't want to imagine the controversy of allowing Gentry a team...
As I understand it, the Bantam team is a bunch of Twin City kids. They could form a team as a private school and be just fine.
I think you have that right.Jeffy95 wrote:If I remember correctly, (and I might not), it was the Girls Program at Achiever and they had already made it to the Section Final before they got kaiboshed. Their argument was that it was a brand new "School" so everyone was eligible. They weren't allowed to play the section final so their opponent got an auto bid to State. Since the Gentry "School", has been in existence for awhile, I would think anyone who started 9th grade there, or followed the other transfer, "rules" would be eligible for MSHSL.