Top Goalie Stats

[InThePipes]

In the Pipes

Agree Boynton is great goalie , but I’ve only been posting results for teams in Karl’s top 25

Ah, my bad.

[WestMetro]

Toop 25 AA teams, top goalies with at least 2 games thru Dec 22 and over .900 save percent
(excuse any errors or omissions)


Brown SW .968
Fritsinger AND .951
Fraga Wayz .944
Erickson HM .950
Glockner MtkA .948
Hodges MH .951
Olson BSM .947
Welsh LVS .948
Rabold Deast .944
Hayden Bville .939
Manzella EAG .937
Wieneke MG .935
Huber HF .933
Lee ROS .922
Donahue STA .919
Hogg ED .917
Steffens WBL .915
Daninger BL .910
Keopple HM .911
Foss WBL .916
Miller MH .915
Wong Wayz .918
Kausch Deast .909
Shopbell PL .907
Nelson Rsmt .909
Johnson LVN .904
Bullis EP .903
Tuttle Ros .902

[WestMetro]

Top 25 AA Teams' Goalies With 3 starts, over 90% thru Dec 29, Excuse Errors or Omissions


Fritzinger AND 955
McCarville HSTNG 954
Rabold Deast 948
Boynton CP 945
Glockner Mtka 943
Welsch LVS 933
Hodges MH 926
Brown SW 925
Wieneke MG 925
Steffens WBL 923
Huber HF 923
Keopple HM 923
Lee ROS 921
Fraga Wayz 920
Daninger BL 918
Tollefson Rsmt 916
Foss WBL 916
Erickson HM 915
Manzella EAG 913
Johnson LVN 912
Olson BSM 906
Meyer LVN 903
Donahue STA 903
Wong Wayz 902


Notable:

Josie Bothun FL 871

[hockey59]

In the Pipes

Agree Boynton is great goalie , but I’ve only been posting results for teams in Karl’s top 25

How Boynton, who’s evidently been starting since 2015-2016 wasn’t awarded an “invite” to the Elite League is a complete travesty & really a black eye regarding their goalie selection process!

[WestMetro]

Top 25 AA Teams' Goalies With 3 starts, over 90% thru Jan 12, Excuse Errors or Omissions

Wolfe Edina 962
Fritzinger AND 953
McCarville HSTNG 953
Rabold Deast 923 -
Boynton CP 949
Gervais STA 943
Glockner Mtka 938
Hayden Bville 931
Welsch LVS 931
Hodges MH 915
Brown SW 921
Wieneke MG 927
Steffens WBL 923
Huber HF 918
Keopple HM 936
Lee ROS 934
Fraga Wayz 926
Daninger BL 923
EngelBrakt EP 920
Tollefson Rsmt 912
Foss WBL 919
Erickson HM 915
Manzella EAG 916
Johnson LVN 924
Olson BSM 906
Donahue STA 915
Erickson HM 915
Slotsve MG 909
Bullis EP 906
Mayer LVN 905
Steffens WBL 900



Notable:

Josie Bothun FL 890

[O-townClown]

Wolfe Edina 962

Finally someone besides me noticed this

[Lostmyedge]

Wolfe Edina 962

Finally someone besides me noticed this

If you are going to include Wolfe (who is a solid goalie imho) then you should also include Swenson from Andover who has also played 3 games and has a .970 save percentage and a 0.33 GAA

[WestMetro]

Looks like he just got his 3rd start last nite? ,so didn’t meet criteria last Sunday . Nice stats!

[ThatMNHockeyGuy62]

Wolfe Edina 962

Finally someone besides me noticed this

If you are going to include Wolfe (who is a solid goalie imho) then you should also include Swenson from Andover who has also played 3 games and has a .970 save percentage and a 0.33 GAA

Not to take anything away from EITHER Andover goalie, but that’s some great team defense!

[GoBigorGoHome]

Can we all agree that the save % stat is absolutely meaningless? I think we've all been to enough HS games to know that shots/saves are rarely recorded accurately. I appreciate that all volunteer score keepers are doing the best they can, but how many actually know that a shot is only truly a shot if it would have gone in if the goalie wasn't there, AND it was shot with the intent of trying to score a goal. At the next game you attend, watch how many times shots are awarded for pucks that were going 3 feet wide. Also, watch the mad scrambles in front where the goalie makes 3 or 4 amazing saves and the shot keeper adds "1" to the total, because they just can't see. It is very, very far from an exact science. In a 25 shot game, one save equals .04, so one save can take the save % from .92 to .96, turning a goalie from good to great, even though that one so-called shot was going 5 feet wide.

[InThePipes]

Can we all agree that the save % stat is absolutely meaningless? I think we've all been to enough HS games to know that shots/saves are rarely recorded accurately. I appreciate that all volunteer score keepers are doing the best they can, but how many actually know that a shot is only truly a shot if it would have gone in if the goalie wasn't there, AND it was shot with the intent of trying to score a goal. At the next game you attend, watch how many times shots are awarded for pucks that were going 3 feet wide. Also, watch the mad scrambles in front where the goalie makes 3 or 4 amazing saves and the shot keeper adds "1" to the total, because they just can't see. It is very, very far from an exact science. In a 25 shot game, one save equals .04, so one save can take the save % from .92 to .96, turning a goalie from good to great, even though that one so-called shot was going 5 feet wide.

Agree, I think it's relatively rare to attend a game where shots are what I would consider accurate (+/- 5%). I would estimate shots are in many cases 15% to as much as 30% off. I'd also say it's far more frequent that shots are under-reported (missed) than over-reported (captured the one going 3 ft wide).

For example, I recently attended a game where they reported a team had 8 shots for a period, keep in mind the team had scored 4 goals that period and two of them were rebounds (so there are 6 shots right there), so you're telling me the goalie only made 2 saves for the remainder of the period? I didn't count, but that goalie easily saw 15 shots that period.

[GoldenBear]

So if save % is meaningless, how do you suggest the general public evaluate "walls' from "sieves"? Vertical jump? coolest helmet? Beer Chug (only for 218 teams)? Save % DOES have value. Wins have value; GA has value. They are stats and yes, different people are doing the counting on saves but until someone shows me 2 SD results with less than 2% error or a multiple regression analysis that uses Wins, GA and save percentage as the independent variables and it shows an r-squared over 95% as well as high R bared squared, I'm going to use save % as an indicator of weather a goalie is good, great or a sieve (School Board Chairman's kid) GB

[GoBigorGoHome]

Do what you want GB. Wins and GA are different because it's hard to get those wrong. A win is a win, and a goal is a goal, for the most part they are not subjective (even though determining who is ultimately responsible for each may be). Imagine the NHL relying on shots/saves determined by volunteer score keepers with horrible sight lines to approximately 1/2 (those coming from the opposite side of the ice) of all shot attempts.... Also, as I outlined, in a 25 save scenario, 1 save is 4% of the total, 2 saves 8%. It doesn't take many errors to really skew the numbers.

[GoldenBear]

GBGH, just trolling you on a slow Thursday. I completely understand your concern if the person counting the saves is clueless then the statistic is bogus. I don't agree that the majority of shot counters are clueless. If they count a save that shouldn't be one in the first, they probably don't count a save in the third that should have been one therefore, they are perfect in their job. If one game has a shot counter who is liberal in his shot count, the next game may have a shot counter who is conservative in his counting and over 25 games with 500 or so shots, your one shot .2%.

Why do you want consistency? I have Ralph Waldo Emerson's backing in that we don't want our shot counters to "think consistently from one day to the next." Ralph Waldo's "hobgoblin of little minds"---"a foolish consistency". GB

[WestMetro]

All AA teams. Draw own conclusions about SOS and D Corp. Also added wins, and GAA.
Excuse any errors or omissions. Cutoff is .918 thru Jan 19

 Name  Team  MIN  W  GAA  SV %
Jack Wolfe Edina 153:00:00 3 0.67 0.962
Tyler McCarville Hastings 632:30:00 11 1.29 0.954
Ben Fritsinger Andover 768:36:00 13 0.93 0.95
Brennan Boynton Champlin Park 608:29:00 9 2.01 0.947
Wes Gervais St. Thomas Academy 295:00:00 5 1.38 0.943
Charlie Glockner Minnetonka 858:00:00 16 1.31 0.937
Oliver Lee Roseau 675:29:00 10 1.43 0.935
Remington Keopple Hill-Murray 634:14:00 6 1.69 0.934
Patric Loeffler Rogers 207:25:00 3 1.48 0.933
Jack Cashin Tartan 153:34:00 1 1.66 0.931
Max Ritchie Bloomington Jefferson 162:01:00 3 1.57 0.93
Henry Welsch Lakeville South 723:39:00 8 1.97 0.928
Nathan Mueller Buffalo 782:45:00 7 1.95 0.925
Hudson Hodges Moorhead 501:00:00 6 2.14 0.924
Jack Wieneke Maple Grove 573:30:00 7 2.31 0.923
Will Johnson Lakeville North 384:07:00 5 2.52 0.922
Joe Daninger Blaine 734:53:00 10 1.8 0.921
Jack Engelbrakt Eden Prairie 153:00:00 2 2 0.92
Hudgel Selk Chanhassen 59:00:00 0 1.73 0.92
Bailey Huber Holy Family 808:43:00 8 2.46 0.918
Muzzy Donohue St. Thomas Academy 580:00:00 8 2.11 0.918

[612hockeytown]

GBGH, just trolling you on a slow Thursday. I completely understand your concern if the person counting the saves is clueless then the statistic is bogus. I don't agree that the majority of shot counters are clueless. If they count a save that shouldn't be one in the first, they probably don't count a save in the third that should have been one therefore, they are perfect in their job. If one game has a shot counter who is liberal in his shot count, the next game may have a shot counter who is conservative in his counting and over 25 games with 500 or so shots, your one shot .2%.

Why do you want consistency? I have Ralph Waldo Emerson's backing in that we don't want our shot counters to "think consistently from one day to the next." Ralph Waldo's "hobgoblin of little minds"---"a foolish consistency". GB

As a goalie uncle to my niece who played Blaine Varsity, my brother’s biggest complaint was the shot counting being done from the box and not the stands with a good elevated view. I’ve done the clock and understand his thinking. Angles also make it hard. We were at the Blaine /Maple Grove boys game the other day where BB got his hatty and saw the next day shots were 48-32 in favor of Blaine. We all laughed at that one. No way Blaine puts up 48 against those Crimson boys. We estimated it’s to be around 25-25 or maybe 30. My brother said the Holy Family scoresheet guy must have tracked shots lol.

[GoldenBear]

I agree it's a crap shot; like some people give four-foot gimmee putts and others putt everything out. GB

[WestMetro]

Nice article about Boynton!

https://www.mnhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/987203

[WestMetro]

All AA goalies with at least 3 starts and .902 Save Percent



Name Team Wins GAA Save %
Jack Wolfe Edina 3 0.67 0.962
Tyler McCarville Hastings 12 1.38 0.951
Brennan Boynton Champlin Park 11 1.94 0.948
Wes Gervais St. Thomas Academy 6 1.33 0.941
Charlie Glockner Minnetonka 17 1.4 0.937
Jack Cashin Tartan 2 1.5 0.935
Patric Loeffler Rogers 3 1.48 0.933
Henry Welsch Lakeville South 9 1.91 0.932
Remington Keopple Hill-Murray 8 1.81 0.93
Nathan Mueller Buffalo 8 1.84 0.929
Joe Daninger Blaine 13 1.67 0.928
Ben Fritsinger Andover 14 1.41 0.927
Jack Wieneke Maple Grove 8 2.2 0.924
Jack Olson Benilde 4 1.53 0.923
Wyatt Senich Cloquet-Esko-C 5 1.45 0.922
Hudson Hodges Moorhead 8 2.11 0.922
Oliver Lee Roseau 10 1.77 0.922
Max Ritchie Bloom Jefferson 4 1.68 0.921
Sam Potter Champlin Park 2 1.98 0.921
Will Johnson Lakeville North 5 2.47 0.921
Jack Engelbrakt Eden Prairie 2 2 0.92
Bailey Huber Holy Family 10 2.39 0.919
Josh Weyandt Chanhassen 5 2.73 0.919
Muzzy Donohue St. Thomas Academy 9 2.1 0.918
William Tollefson Rosemount 12 2.07 0.917
Joey Wigle Rochester Mayo 4 1.75 0.917
Danny Fraga Wayzata 6 1.97 0.916
Nick Erickson Hill-Murray 3 1.33 0.915
Jacob Gathje Rochester Mayo 7 2.1 0.915
Derek Manzella Eagan 13 1.98 0.912
Parker Slotsve Maple Grove 6 1.83 0.911
Connor Hayden Burnsville 4 3.18 0.908
Zach Wiese Owatonna 6 2.54 0.907
Nathan Hadley Anoka 3 3.56 0.907
Evan Foss White Bear Lake 7 2.02 0.907
Jesse Brown Stillwater 7 2.29 0.907
Brody Rabold Duluth East 6 2.06 0.907
Matthew Syverson Holy Angels 15 2.61 0.906
Andrew Tuttle Roseau 3 1.87 0.905
Wesley Swenson Andover 3 1.2 0.905
Tyler Steffens White Bear Lake 8 1.49 0.904
Bennett Weestrand Eastview 6 2.96 0.903
Chase Kvaal Irondale 9 2.67 0.903
Louden Hogg Edina 11 2.12 0.903
Axel Rosenlund Eden Prairie 5 2.69 0.902
Carson Arthur Rochester JM 3 3.69 0.902

[HockeyCrazy1970]

Since most teams now have about 18 games...maybe the qualifying criterion for making the list should be a greater number of starts or maybe 200+ shots faced...
3 games is 1/6 of the starts.

[HockeyCrazy1970]

After taking a closer look...there are some goalies with only 2 games. If a goalie gets 1 out of 3 games he would now have 6. This list would shrink by 18 names.

[WestMetro]

I tried to cut it off at 153 minutes, I apologize for any errors

Next week will increase it to 250 minutes

[Stang5280]

Wow, Fritsinger’s save percentage decreased by 2.3% in one week. That was a serious shelling by Blaine, and the WBL game didn’t help since he only faced 14 shots, saving 12.

[WestMetro]

Stang. You get my vote for best keeping on top of mshsl while living in different time zone !

[Stang5280]

Stang. You get my vote for best keeping on top of mshsl while living in different time zone !

Thanks, though there probably isn’t a whole lot of competition in that category! I have always followed Breck closely for obvious reasons, but started paying more attention to high school hockey as a whole the last few years. With more games available for streaming now, I really decided to focus on Class A this year, since there isn’t as much focus on that level on the board.