State tourney ‘19...who you got?

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by hockey59 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:37 pm

That guy for that thing wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:15 pm
Orty wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:52 am
Section 1 Lakeville South

Section 2 Minnetonka (2)

Section 3 Rosemount

Section 4 Hill Murray (5)

Section 5 Blaine (3)

Section 6 Edina (1)

Section 7 Duluth East (4)

Section 8 Moorhead
I like the DEast pick, especially with last night, but you think they will get the nod at a seed even with Moorhead, who shut them out, making the tourney?

I hope they get the 4 or 5. They play a bit better against Edina than Tonka, and I would be OK with a rematch from last year if DE can even get past Andover.
If DE gets to play MG tonight & scores 4-5 goals, THEN I’d be more confident that the scoring problem has potentially been solved. Last night wasn’t all that meaningful regarding the playoffs, but felt good for the DE players. Superior played like ripe garbage last night, and the Hounds were more than happy to chew them up☝️But Andover is still the favorite in 7AA.

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by elliott70 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:30 pm

Section 1 Hastings

Section 2 Minnetonka (2)

Section 3 STA (5)

Section 4 WBL

Section 5 Blaine (3)

Section 6 Edina (1)

Section 7 Andover (4)

Section 8 Moorhead

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by hky17 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:53 pm

Section 1 Hastings

Section 2 Minnetonka

Section 3 Rosemount

Section 4 Hill Murray

Section 5 Blaine

Section 6 Edina

Section 7 Andover

Section 8 Roseau

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by blueblood » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:49 pm

Orty has an interesting take on the AA tourney, but I don’t think East gets the 4 seed, let alone the 5 seed over Moorhead, who destroyed East and a 20-won Rosemount Team.
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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by Jeffy95 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:49 am

blueblood wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:49 pm
Orty has an interesting take on the AA tourney, but I don’t think East gets the 4 seed, let alone the 5 seed over Moorhead, who destroyed East and a 20-won Rosemount Team.
Considering they would be coming off of a win over Andover they could definitely get the 4.

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by bardown27 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:14 am

1A - Lourdes
2A - Orono (5)
3A - Marshall
4A - Mahtomedi (2)
5A - Monticello
6A - Alex (3)
7A - Hermantown (1)
8A - EGF (4)

1AA - Lakeville South
2AA - Minnetonka (2)
3AA - Rosemount (4)
4AA - WBL (5)
5AA - Blaine (3)
6AA - Edina (1)
7AA - Duluth East
8AA - Moorhead

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by hockey59 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:19 am

bardown27 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:14 am


1AA - Lakeville South
2AA - Minnetonka (2)
3AA - Rosemount (5)
4AA - WBL
5AA - Blaine (3)
6AA - Edina (1)
7AA - ANDOVER (4)
8AA - Moorhead
My picks ☝️

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by elliott70 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:23 am

Seeding at state takes on the characteristic of the coaches voting.
Assuming ALL are on the up and up and vote accordingly pagestat would be the logical means of predicting how they would vote:
1 Edina 6AA
2 Minnetonka 2AA
3 Blaine 5AA
4 Andover 7AA
5 STA 3AA

8AA Moorhead
4AA Hill
1 AA Lakeville South

If there is an upset the #2 in each section would still be considered higher than the next 3, EXCEPT Section 7AA DEast may be in trouble as they were beat by Moorhead (& Brainerd). At that point Moorhead would move to #5.
If a couple of #3's upset to get to the X then Moorhead and Hill could move up.

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by Jeffy95 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:42 am

East is higher than Moorhead on Pagestat. A win over Andover would make it a much larger gap, especially since recent results are weighted heavier. Could/should push them ahead of STA, Rosemount for sure. Not sure how much stock the coaches will put on a road game in Mid January. They know how Randolph rolls. Give them the 4 so we can watch them beat Edina again!

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by elliott70 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:56 am

1 Edina (19-2-1)
2 Minnetonka (20-2-2)
3 Andover (21-2-1)
4 St. Thomas Academy (20-3-1)
5 Rosemount (19-3)
6 Blaine (17-2-2)
7 White Bear Lake (17-4-1)
8 Maple Grove (16-4-1)
9 Eden Prairie (13-8-2)
10 Moorhead (17-6-1)
11 Benilde-St. Margaret's (16-7)
12 Duluth East (15-6-2)

Now if the coaches think more on the lines of QRF
1 Edina 6AA
2 Minnetonka 2AA
3 Andover 7AA
4 STA 3AA
5 Blaine 5AA

Moorhead 8
WBL 4
Rochester Century 1

Then an Andover upset sends WBL to #5.
So, what will the coaches do...
It is not unthinkable that Rosemount, Maple Grove and Eden Prairie could be a the X.

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by Jeffy95 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:28 pm

elliott70 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:56 am
1 Edina (19-2-1)
2 Minnetonka (20-2-2)
3 Andover (21-2-1)
4 St. Thomas Academy (20-3-1)
5 Rosemount (19-3)
6 Blaine (17-2-2)
7 White Bear Lake (17-4-1)
8 Maple Grove (16-4-1)
9 Eden Prairie (13-8-2)
10 Moorhead (17-6-1)
11 Benilde-St. Margaret's (16-7)
12 Duluth East (15-6-2)

Now if the coaches think more on the lines of QRF
1 Edina 6AA
2 Minnetonka 2AA
3 Andover 7AA
4 STA 3AA
5 Blaine 5AA

Moorhead 8
WBL 4
Rochester Century 1

Then an Andover upset sends WBL to #5.
So, what will the coaches do...
It is not unthinkable that Rosemount, Maple Grove and Eden Prairie could be a the X.
Those aren't the current Page Stat rankings that I'm looking at on MInnHock, (Through 2/10). Am I missing something???? This is what I see:

1 EDINA
2 MINNETONKA
3 BLAINE 5AA
4 ANDOVER 7AA
5 CHASKA 2AA
6 EDEN PRAIRIE 2AA
7 MAPLE GROVE 5AA
8 ST THOMAS ACADEMY
9 HERMANTOWN
10 WAYZATA
11 ROSEMOUNT
12 BENILDE ST MARGARETS
13 DULUTH EAST
14 MOORHEAD
15 EAGAN 3AA
16 HILL MURRAY
17 CLOQUET 7AA
18 HOLY FAMILY 2AA
19 WHITE BEAR LAKE 4AA

East ahead of Moorhead and in striking distance of STA and Rosemount with a win over Andover.

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by elliott70 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:30 pm

Those are QRF for a different angle on the thing.

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by Jeffy95 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:35 pm

elliott70 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:30 pm
Those are QRF for a different angle on the thing.
Aaaah, gotcha.

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by Section 8 guy » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:53 pm

I would think head to head would get a lot more weight than any single data driven system. I know some people on here think QRF has its flaws. To think Pagestat doesn’t have its own flaws wouldn’t make sense.

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by GopherHockey » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:05 pm

elliott70 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:56 am
1 Edina (19-2-1)
2 Minnetonka (20-2-2)
3 Andover (21-2-1)
4 St. Thomas Academy (20-3-1)
5 Rosemount (19-3)
6 Blaine (17-2-2)
7 White Bear Lake (17-4-1)
8 Maple Grove (16-4-1)
9 Eden Prairie (13-8-2)
10 Moorhead (17-6-1)
11 Benilde-St. Margaret's (16-7)
12 Duluth East (15-6-2)

Now if the coaches think more on the lines of QRF
1 Edina 6AA
2 Minnetonka 2AA
3 Andover 7AA
4 STA 3AA
5 Blaine 5AA

Moorhead 8
WBL 4
Rochester Century 1

Then an Andover upset sends WBL to #5.
So, what will the coaches do...
It is not unthinkable that Rosemount, Maple Grove and Eden Prairie could be a the X.
Those seem odd. Didn’t Blaine trounce Andover? And Duluth East has been pretty meh. No reason to give them anything higher than the 5 if they happened to be the only upset.

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by elliott70 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:09 pm

Using two different computer systems as a means to think like the coaches might think.

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by kniven » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:37 pm

GopherHockey wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:05 pm
elliott70 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:56 am
1 Edina (19-2-1)
2 Minnetonka (20-2-2)
3 Andover (21-2-1)
4 St. Thomas Academy (20-3-1)
5 Rosemount (19-3)
6 Blaine (17-2-2)
7 White Bear Lake (17-4-1)
8 Maple Grove (16-4-1)
9 Eden Prairie (13-8-2)
10 Moorhead (17-6-1)
11 Benilde-St. Margaret's (16-7)
12 Duluth East (15-6-2)

Now if the coaches think more on the lines of QRF
1 Edina 6AA
2 Minnetonka 2AA
3 Andover 7AA
4 STA 3AA
5 Blaine 5AA

Moorhead 8
WBL 4
Rochester Century 1

Then an Andover upset sends WBL to #5.
So, what will the coaches do...
It is not unthinkable that Rosemount, Maple Grove and Eden Prairie could be a the X.
Those seem odd. Didn’t Blaine trounce Andover? And Duluth East has been pretty meh. No reason to give them anything higher than the 5 if they happened to be the only upset.
Boy oh boy. If Andover does not make the state tournament, there will be rioting in the streets of Andover 😳
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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by hockey59 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:43 pm

kniven wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:37 pm
GopherHockey wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:05 pm
elliott70 wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:56 am
1 Edina (19-2-1)
2 Minnetonka (20-2-2)
3 Andover (21-2-1)
4 St. Thomas Academy (20-3-1)
5 Rosemount (19-3)
6 Blaine (17-2-2)
7 White Bear Lake (17-4-1)
8 Maple Grove (16-4-1)
9 Eden Prairie (13-8-2)
10 Moorhead (17-6-1)
11 Benilde-St. Margaret's (16-7)
12 Duluth East (15-6-2)

Now if the coaches think more on the lines of QRF
1 Edina 6AA
2 Minnetonka 2AA
3 Andover 7AA
4 STA 3AA
5 Blaine 5AA

Moorhead 8
WBL 4
Rochester Century 1

Then an Andover upset sends WBL to #5.
So, what will the coaches do...
It is not unthinkable that Rosemount, Maple Grove and Eden Prairie could be a the X.
Those seem odd. Didn’t Blaine trounce Andover? And Duluth East has been pretty meh. No reason to give them anything higher than the 5 if they happened to be the only upset.
Boy oh boy. If Andover does not make the state tournament, there will be rioting in the streets of Andover 😳
Andover has the most talent & the best record. But the most talented team doesn’t always advance to State, especially when they need to travel 150 miles on a school day while the other team is playing a HOME GAME (and that includes Cloquets 20 minute drive on occasion too) 😉☝️

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Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?

Post by Mite-dad » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:09 am

Mite-dad wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:15 am
Minnetonka repeats and St Cloud Cathedral wins its first title.
Well hey! I got the A tournament right!

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