If DE gets to play MG tonight & scores 4-5 goals, THEN I’d be more confident that the scoring problem has potentially been solved. Last night wasn’t all that meaningful regarding the playoffs, but felt good for the DE players. Superior played like ripe garbage last night, and the Hounds were more than happy to chew them upBut Andover is still the favorite in 7AA.That guy for that thing wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:15 pmI like the DEast pick, especially with last night, but you think they will get the nod at a seed even with Moorhead, who shut them out, making the tourney?
I hope they get the 4 or 5. They play a bit better against Edina than Tonka, and I would be OK with a rematch from last year if DE can even get past Andover.
State tourney ‘19...who you got?
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Section 1 Hastings
Section 2 Minnetonka (2)
Section 3 STA (5)
Section 4 WBL
Section 5 Blaine (3)
Section 6 Edina (1)
Section 7 Andover (4)
Section 8 Moorhead
Section 2 Minnetonka (2)
Section 3 STA (5)
Section 4 WBL
Section 5 Blaine (3)
Section 6 Edina (1)
Section 7 Andover (4)
Section 8 Moorhead
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Section 1 Hastings
Section 2 Minnetonka
Section 3 Rosemount
Section 4 Hill Murray
Section 5 Blaine
Section 6 Edina
Section 7 Andover
Section 8 Roseau
Section 2 Minnetonka
Section 3 Rosemount
Section 4 Hill Murray
Section 5 Blaine
Section 6 Edina
Section 7 Andover
Section 8 Roseau
Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?
Orty has an interesting take on the AA tourney, but I don’t think East gets the 4 seed, let alone the 5 seed over Moorhead, who destroyed East and a 20-won Rosemount Team.
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Considering they would be coming off of a win over Andover they could definitely get the 4.
Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?
1A - Lourdes
2A - Orono (5)
3A - Marshall
4A - Mahtomedi (2)
5A - Monticello
6A - Alex (3)
7A - Hermantown (1)
8A - EGF (4)
1AA - Lakeville South
2AA - Minnetonka (2)
3AA - Rosemount (4)
4AA - WBL (5)
5AA - Blaine (3)
6AA - Edina (1)
7AA - Duluth East
8AA - Moorhead
2A - Orono (5)
3A - Marshall
4A - Mahtomedi (2)
5A - Monticello
6A - Alex (3)
7A - Hermantown (1)
8A - EGF (4)
1AA - Lakeville South
2AA - Minnetonka (2)
3AA - Rosemount (4)
4AA - WBL (5)
5AA - Blaine (3)
6AA - Edina (1)
7AA - Duluth East
8AA - Moorhead
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Seeding at state takes on the characteristic of the coaches voting.
Assuming ALL are on the up and up and vote accordingly pagestat would be the logical means of predicting how they would vote:
1 Edina 6AA
2 Minnetonka 2AA
3 Blaine 5AA
4 Andover 7AA
5 STA 3AA
8AA Moorhead
4AA Hill
1 AA Lakeville South
If there is an upset the #2 in each section would still be considered higher than the next 3, EXCEPT Section 7AA DEast may be in trouble as they were beat by Moorhead (& Brainerd). At that point Moorhead would move to #5.
If a couple of #3's upset to get to the X then Moorhead and Hill could move up.
Assuming ALL are on the up and up and vote accordingly pagestat would be the logical means of predicting how they would vote:
1 Edina 6AA
2 Minnetonka 2AA
3 Blaine 5AA
4 Andover 7AA
5 STA 3AA
8AA Moorhead
4AA Hill
1 AA Lakeville South
If there is an upset the #2 in each section would still be considered higher than the next 3, EXCEPT Section 7AA DEast may be in trouble as they were beat by Moorhead (& Brainerd). At that point Moorhead would move to #5.
If a couple of #3's upset to get to the X then Moorhead and Hill could move up.
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East is higher than Moorhead on Pagestat. A win over Andover would make it a much larger gap, especially since recent results are weighted heavier. Could/should push them ahead of STA, Rosemount for sure. Not sure how much stock the coaches will put on a road game in Mid January. They know how Randolph rolls. Give them the 4 so we can watch them beat Edina again!
Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?
1 Edina (19-2-1)
2 Minnetonka (20-2-2)
3 Andover (21-2-1)
4 St. Thomas Academy (20-3-1)
5 Rosemount (19-3)
6 Blaine (17-2-2)
7 White Bear Lake (17-4-1)
8 Maple Grove (16-4-1)
9 Eden Prairie (13-8-2)
10 Moorhead (17-6-1)
11 Benilde-St. Margaret's (16-7)
12 Duluth East (15-6-2)
Now if the coaches think more on the lines of QRF
1 Edina 6AA
2 Minnetonka 2AA
3 Andover 7AA
4 STA 3AA
5 Blaine 5AA
Moorhead 8
WBL 4
Rochester Century 1
Then an Andover upset sends WBL to #5.
So, what will the coaches do...
It is not unthinkable that Rosemount, Maple Grove and Eden Prairie could be a the X.
2 Minnetonka (20-2-2)
3 Andover (21-2-1)
4 St. Thomas Academy (20-3-1)
5 Rosemount (19-3)
6 Blaine (17-2-2)
7 White Bear Lake (17-4-1)
8 Maple Grove (16-4-1)
9 Eden Prairie (13-8-2)
10 Moorhead (17-6-1)
11 Benilde-St. Margaret's (16-7)
12 Duluth East (15-6-2)
Now if the coaches think more on the lines of QRF
1 Edina 6AA
2 Minnetonka 2AA
3 Andover 7AA
4 STA 3AA
5 Blaine 5AA
Moorhead 8
WBL 4
Rochester Century 1
Then an Andover upset sends WBL to #5.
So, what will the coaches do...
It is not unthinkable that Rosemount, Maple Grove and Eden Prairie could be a the X.
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Those aren't the current Page Stat rankings that I'm looking at on MInnHock, (Through 2/10). Am I missing something???? This is what I see:elliott70 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:56 am1 Edina (19-2-1)
2 Minnetonka (20-2-2)
3 Andover (21-2-1)
4 St. Thomas Academy (20-3-1)
5 Rosemount (19-3)
6 Blaine (17-2-2)
7 White Bear Lake (17-4-1)
8 Maple Grove (16-4-1)
9 Eden Prairie (13-8-2)
10 Moorhead (17-6-1)
11 Benilde-St. Margaret's (16-7)
12 Duluth East (15-6-2)
Now if the coaches think more on the lines of QRF
1 Edina 6AA
2 Minnetonka 2AA
3 Andover 7AA
4 STA 3AA
5 Blaine 5AA
Moorhead 8
WBL 4
Rochester Century 1
Then an Andover upset sends WBL to #5.
So, what will the coaches do...
It is not unthinkable that Rosemount, Maple Grove and Eden Prairie could be a the X.
1 EDINA
2 MINNETONKA
3 BLAINE 5AA
4 ANDOVER 7AA
5 CHASKA 2AA
6 EDEN PRAIRIE 2AA
7 MAPLE GROVE 5AA
8 ST THOMAS ACADEMY
9 HERMANTOWN
10 WAYZATA
11 ROSEMOUNT
12 BENILDE ST MARGARETS
13 DULUTH EAST
14 MOORHEAD
15 EAGAN 3AA
16 HILL MURRAY
17 CLOQUET 7AA
18 HOLY FAMILY 2AA
19 WHITE BEAR LAKE 4AA
East ahead of Moorhead and in striking distance of STA and Rosemount with a win over Andover.
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Those are QRF for a different angle on the thing.
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I would think head to head would get a lot more weight than any single data driven system. I know some people on here think QRF has its flaws. To think Pagestat doesn’t have its own flaws wouldn’t make sense.
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Those seem odd. Didn’t Blaine trounce Andover? And Duluth East has been pretty meh. No reason to give them anything higher than the 5 if they happened to be the only upset.elliott70 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:56 am1 Edina (19-2-1)
2 Minnetonka (20-2-2)
3 Andover (21-2-1)
4 St. Thomas Academy (20-3-1)
5 Rosemount (19-3)
6 Blaine (17-2-2)
7 White Bear Lake (17-4-1)
8 Maple Grove (16-4-1)
9 Eden Prairie (13-8-2)
10 Moorhead (17-6-1)
11 Benilde-St. Margaret's (16-7)
12 Duluth East (15-6-2)
Now if the coaches think more on the lines of QRF
1 Edina 6AA
2 Minnetonka 2AA
3 Andover 7AA
4 STA 3AA
5 Blaine 5AA
Moorhead 8
WBL 4
Rochester Century 1
Then an Andover upset sends WBL to #5.
So, what will the coaches do...
It is not unthinkable that Rosemount, Maple Grove and Eden Prairie could be a the X.
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Using two different computer systems as a means to think like the coaches might think.
Re: State tourney ‘19...who you got?
Boy oh boy. If Andover does not make the state tournament, there will be rioting in the streets of AndoverGopherHockey wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:05 pmThose seem odd. Didn’t Blaine trounce Andover? And Duluth East has been pretty meh. No reason to give them anything higher than the 5 if they happened to be the only upset.elliott70 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:56 am1 Edina (19-2-1)
2 Minnetonka (20-2-2)
3 Andover (21-2-1)
4 St. Thomas Academy (20-3-1)
5 Rosemount (19-3)
6 Blaine (17-2-2)
7 White Bear Lake (17-4-1)
8 Maple Grove (16-4-1)
9 Eden Prairie (13-8-2)
10 Moorhead (17-6-1)
11 Benilde-St. Margaret's (16-7)
12 Duluth East (15-6-2)
Now if the coaches think more on the lines of QRF
1 Edina 6AA
2 Minnetonka 2AA
3 Andover 7AA
4 STA 3AA
5 Blaine 5AA
Moorhead 8
WBL 4
Rochester Century 1
Then an Andover upset sends WBL to #5.
So, what will the coaches do...
It is not unthinkable that Rosemount, Maple Grove and Eden Prairie could be a the X.
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Andover has the most talent & the best record. But the most talented team doesn’t always advance to State, especially when they need to travel 150 miles on a school day while the other team is playing a HOME GAME (and that includes Cloquets 20 minute drive on occasion too)kniven wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:37 pmBoy oh boy. If Andover does not make the state tournament, there will be rioting in the streets of AndoverGopherHockey wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:05 pmThose seem odd. Didn’t Blaine trounce Andover? And Duluth East has been pretty meh. No reason to give them anything higher than the 5 if they happened to be the only upset.elliott70 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:56 am1 Edina (19-2-1)
2 Minnetonka (20-2-2)
3 Andover (21-2-1)
4 St. Thomas Academy (20-3-1)
5 Rosemount (19-3)
6 Blaine (17-2-2)
7 White Bear Lake (17-4-1)
8 Maple Grove (16-4-1)
9 Eden Prairie (13-8-2)
10 Moorhead (17-6-1)
11 Benilde-St. Margaret's (16-7)
12 Duluth East (15-6-2)
Now if the coaches think more on the lines of QRF
1 Edina 6AA
2 Minnetonka 2AA
3 Andover 7AA
4 STA 3AA
5 Blaine 5AA
Moorhead 8
WBL 4
Rochester Century 1
Then an Andover upset sends WBL to #5.
So, what will the coaches do...
It is not unthinkable that Rosemount, Maple Grove and Eden Prairie could be a the X.