Early Departures 2019-2020

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by InThePipes » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:31 am

USA218 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:28 am
Hearing Jeannette leaving DE for USHL. Can anyone confirm?
Decisions can always be reconsidered, but all indications appear to indicate this is true.

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by Duluth_Topper » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:06 am

Yes this is confirmed. He even played on the Duluth Marshall team 2 weekends ago in a tournament since Randolph has banished him skating from anything to do with East.

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by muckandgrinder65 » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:23 am

That sounds like a bunch of Hooey
If it were true he would have skated with Denfeld

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by kniven » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:32 am

Duluth_Topper wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:06 am
Yes this is confirmed. He even played on the Duluth Marshall team 2 weekends ago in a tournament since Randolph has banished him skating from anything to do with East.

Banished? What the heck would a high school hockey coach be throwing out the “I banish you” words. That’s not the language of a high school hockey coach/leader/mentor for our kids is it? I can’t believe Coach would “banish players” high school kids....
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by OldManRiver » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:31 pm

kniven wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:32 am
Duluth_Topper wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:06 am
Yes this is confirmed. He even played on the Duluth Marshall team 2 weekends ago in a tournament since Randolph has banished him skating from anything to do with East.

Banished? What the heck would a high school hockey coach be throwing out the “I banish you” words. That’s not the language of a high school hockey coach/leader/mentor for our kids is it? I can’t believe Coach would “banish players” high school kids....
I agree with Kniven on this one - for a coach to use the words "banish" to a player sounds way out of character. If he said he was going to leave and the coach doesn't play him and opens up a spot for another player, that sounds like moving forward. However what do I know...everyone can act a bit irrational at times...

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by InThePipes » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:34 pm

OldManRiver wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:31 pm
kniven wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:32 am
Duluth_Topper wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:06 am
Yes this is confirmed. He even played on the Duluth Marshall team 2 weekends ago in a tournament since Randolph has banished him skating from anything to do with East.

Banished? What the heck would a high school hockey coach be throwing out the “I banish you” words. That’s not the language of a high school hockey coach/leader/mentor for our kids is it? I can’t believe Coach would “banish players” high school kids....
I agree with Kniven on this one - for a coach to use the words "banish" to a player sounds way out of character. If he said he was going to leave and the coach doesn't play him and opens up a spot for another player, that sounds like moving forward. However what do I know...everyone can act a bit irrational at times...
I've only been around Randolph in arena lobbies and seen him in the state tournament, but I"m going to assume Randolph probably didn't say "JJ, I hereby banish you forever!"

:lol:

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by PuckNA » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:49 pm

But, could you hear him say... "I don't want you back here..."? I know of plenty of coaches who have uttered those words to a player.

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by hockey59 » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:25 pm

InThePipes wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:34 pm
OldManRiver wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:31 pm
kniven wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:32 am



Banished? What the heck would a high school hockey coach be throwing out the “I banish you” words. That’s not the language of a high school hockey coach/leader/mentor for our kids is it? I can’t believe Coach would “banish players” high school kids....
I agree with Kniven on this one - for a coach to use the words "banish" to a player sounds way out of character. If he said he was going to leave and the coach doesn't play him and opens up a spot for another player, that sounds like moving forward. However what do I know...everyone can act a bit irrational at times...
I've only been around Randolph in arena lobbies and seen him in the state tournament, but I"m going to assume Randolph probably didn't say "JJ, I hereby banish you forever!"

:lol:
JJ isn’t the first player to leave DE early (for Juniors or NTDP) and he won’t be the last. Do know that regarding a DE player who left for USHl a bit more than a decade ago (who later played on the UMD NC team in 2011) by no coincidence...several years later his twin brothers played HS hockey for Duluth Marshall. ☝️

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by kniven » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:27 pm

I was just looking at the the Duluth East jV roster from last year. Two 8th graders and two 9th graders brought up early to play JV puck.
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by blueblood » Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:40 pm

9th graders may have run out of bantam eligibility
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by kniven » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:25 pm

Was Clafton playing for Gran Rapids in goal this weekend? Anybody?
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by InThePipes » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:03 pm

kniven wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:25 pm
Was Clafton playing for Gran Rapids in goal this weekend? Anybody?
Yes

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by O-townClown » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:53 pm

kniven wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:32 am
Banished? What the heck would a high school hockey coach be throwing out the “I banish you” words. That’s not the language of a high school hockey coach/leader/mentor for our kids is it? I can’t believe Coach would “banish players” high school kids....
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by GoldenBear » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:28 am

Alec Baer already forgotten
OTC, was thinking the same thing. Low point in Pauley's career in my opinion. GB

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by goldy313 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:37 pm

Maddox Fleming leaving Rochester Mayo for Shattuck.

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by That guy for that thing » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:02 pm

hockey59 wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:25 pm
InThePipes wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:34 pm
OldManRiver wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:31 pm


I agree with Kniven on this one - for a coach to use the words "banish" to a player sounds way out of character. If he said he was going to leave and the coach doesn't play him and opens up a spot for another player, that sounds like moving forward. However what do I know...everyone can act a bit irrational at times...
I've only been around Randolph in arena lobbies and seen him in the state tournament, but I"m going to assume Randolph probably didn't say "JJ, I hereby banish you forever!"

:lol:
JJ isn’t the first player to leave DE early (for Juniors or NTDP) and he won’t be the last. Do know that regarding a DE player who left for USHl a bit more than a decade ago (who later played on the UMD NC team in 2011) by no coincidence...several years later his twin brothers played HS hockey for Duluth Marshall. ☝️
Randolph is trying to build his kids up for the next year. Why would he give up a spot to a kid who thinks he is better than the program to train, over a younger kid who needs the experience before the season starts. If a kid thinks that the program he should be at is not good enough for him, why should that program help him out?

Watching DE last year, I don't see why these kids are leaving the program. They would all be starters on a team that is competitive and seems to get the bounces year in an year out come playoff time? They were third line kids last year, and they think they can make the jump up to Juniors, especially the USHL? The starters from last year might make them, but third line kids that imo were not that gritty, and became selfish, are going to sit if they make the team at all.

My .02

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by muckandgrinder65 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:42 pm

JJ is a first line anywhere but DE last season
Gritty too
IMO

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by yesiplayedhockey » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:13 pm

Muck..you sure about that?

Edina, Blaine, Tonka, Chaska, Eden Prairie, Maple Grove and probably even Andover all had top lines that would have been tough to crack

The kid is very good but that's a tough statement to support

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by blueblood » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:28 pm

Truth (see above)
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by InThePipes » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:36 pm

blueblood wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:28 pm
Truth (see above)
Agree

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by kniven » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:39 pm

He’ll now disappear into the large pool of junior hockey and just be another player trying to make it. Unless he plays with Hermantown, Denfeld, or Duluth Marshall this year and next 🤔
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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by ThatMNHockeyGuy62 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:25 pm

kniven wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:39 pm
He’ll now disappear into the large pool of junior hockey and just be another player trying to make it. Unless he plays with Hermantown, Denfeld, or Duluth Marshall this year and next 🤔
Kniven is probably right on this one. See Jake Hale from Minneapolis. Tough to predict how any one kid will adapt though.

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by muckandgrinder65 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:53 pm

JJ was he best forward player on the ice for HP17 tryouts in GR
He did well the 54s and made Natty Camp- I think??
..seems like he maybe he was under rated /was a late bloomer/wasn't seeing ice time at DE?
Good for him.
What happened?
Otherwise why would Randolf even care?

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by Section 8 guy » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:01 pm

yesiplayedhockey wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:13 pm
Muck..you sure about that?

Edina, Blaine, Tonka, Chaska, Eden Prairie, Maple Grove and probably even Andover all had top lines that would have been tough to crack

The kid is very good but that's a tough statement to support
Plus about 10 other teams you don’t have listed but I’ll save the typing........you’ve made the point.

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Re: Early Departures 2019-2020

Post by Dog » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:39 pm

kniven wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:39 pm
He’ll now disappear into the large pool of junior hockey and just be another player trying to make it. Unless he plays with Hermantown, Denfeld, or Duluth Marshall this year and next 🤔
He will be just fine (but he is not coming back). He's big, strong, hard worker and more importantly: has great character and is a nice and polite young man. Regardless of what happened to cause his departure, he will do not only do well...he'll do exceptionally well. The kid is a class act, as his family.
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