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Why is everybody writing off DE? They are the champs until somebody beats them!

I think most are because of what they lost to graduation and the early departures of Anderson and Jeannette. But I am guessing Randolph will throw a bunch of lines together till the new year and figure out what type of team he has akin to the 2015 team. I would say at this point a pre season rankings for the section would be with 2-4 being somewhat interchangeable

Andover
DE
CEC
Rapids
Elk
Flake
Anoka
Marshall

Usthockey13 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:37 am I think most are because of what they lost to graduation and the early departures of Anderson and Jeannette. But I am guessing Randolph will throw a bunch of lines together till the new year and figure out what type of team he has akin to the 2015 team. I would say at this point a pre season rankings for the section would be with 2-4 being somewhat interchangeable

Andover
DE
CEC
Rapids
Elk
Flake
Anoka
Marshall

East and Cloquet lost valuable pieces and Grand Rapids talented enough to take advantage. Will they? It just makes things more interesting. Duluth East and CEC still have very nice teams though and the Hounds have a head coach named Mike Randolph. Come section playoffs, I have no doubt Andy will have plenty of headaches in front of them to get through for a state tournament birth.

Holy Hound-dog......!!
In the last 10 seasons, Duluth East has a 29-1 record in the Section 7AA tournament, with 9 state appearances.
Going to state 6 times in a row, narrowly losing to Rapids in 2016, the eventual State Champion.
I don't care if they go 5 and 20 during the regular season, It will take a supreme effort and some hockey god will to beat East at Amsoil.
It is just the way things are. Kind of like the Twins beating the Yankees in NY during the play-offs.

muckandgrinder65 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:45 pm Holy Hound-dog......!!
In the last 10 seasons, Duluth East has a 29-1 record in the Section 7AA tournament, with 9 state appearances.
Going to state 6 times in a row, narrowly losing to Rapids in 2016, the eventual State Champion.
I don't care if they go 5 and 20 during the regular season, It will take a supreme effort and some hockey god will to beat East at Amsoil.
It is just the way things are. Kind of like the Twins beating the Yankees in NY during the play-offs.

I like it

east lost two years in a row to rapids 2016 and 2017 when they won it all.

East loses Before that cloquet beat them in 2008 Grand Rapids 2007 and cloquet agin in 2006 I can’t remember after that or if that’s the only teams they have lost to sense they been in section 7

Forgot about that last second goal -my bad
Anyway if it’s not East, and Rapids can make it to the final that would be probably the only way it would happen.
I have the feeling Andover would choke again in OT

muckandgrinder65 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:00 pm Forgot about that last second goal -my bad
Anyway if it’s not East, and Rapids can make it to the final that would be probably the only way it would happen.
I have the feeling Andover would choke again in OT

Yea, CEC would have a very slim chance of beating Andover. East and Rapids would have a much better shot

kniven wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:22 pm

muckandgrinder65 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:00 pm Forgot about that last second goal -my bad
Anyway if it’s not East, and Rapids can make it to the final that would be probably the only way it would happen.
I have the feeling Andover would choke again in OT

Yea, CEC would have a very slim chance of beating Andover. East and Rapids would have a much better shot

Why Andover take Rapids off their schedule? Makes no sense. Rankings already convoluted as is.

muckandgrinder65 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:45 pm Holy Hound-dog......!!
In the last 10 seasons, Duluth East has a 29-1 record in the Section 7AA tournament, with 9 state appearances.
Going to state 6 times in a row, narrowly losing to Rapids in 2016, the eventual State Champion.
I don't care if they go 5 and 20 during the regular season, It will take a supreme effort and some hockey god will to beat East at Amsoil.
It is just the way things are. Kind of like the Twins beating the Yankees in NY during the play-offs.

Exactly! If Mike has goal scorers, he'll play run and gun. If he doesn't he'll play the trap. He'll say one thing out of the right side of his mouth, and something completely different out of the left. He's a great coach who will figure out what it will take to win section 7AA. Doesn't matter what their record is on Feb 1st, they will be at the X when it counts.

And please, I don't want to hear how strong section 7AA is from top to bottom. It's a 1 team section and has been for a decade or more.

Agreed. When I say 7AA is going to be tough....I mean within 7AA and not compared to the other sections. Seeds 2-5 is usually crazy fun and anticipation.

muckandgrinder65 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:45 pm Holy Hound-dog......!!
In the last 10 seasons, Duluth East has a 29-1 record in the Section 7AA tournament, with 9 state appearances.
Going to state 6 times in a row, narrowly losing to Rapids in 2016, the eventual State Champion.
I don't care if they go 5 and 20 during the regular season, It will take a supreme effort and some hockey god will to beat East at Amsoil.
It is just the way things are. Kind of like the Twins beating the Yankees in NY during the play-offs.

Wayzata won AA State in 2016, GR in 2017 (after rising from the dead during the 3rd period vs ER at Amsoil). No one is denying Mike R. being an excellent coach, he clearly is. That said, the facts are DE hasn’t won AA State in going on 22 years & they play at home during the semifinals & Finals of EVERY Section tourney, something they share with only one other team (HM at Aldrich). DE is not the Yankees of HS hockey, the only team who might be accurately termed the Yankees are the hated Hornets

Just as a minor point-of-order in this discussion. East has two losses in the 7AA tournament in the past 4 years, much less the last 10 years. They lost to GR in 2016 and 2017. It does not lessen the original point regarding East's relative dominance, but...

Seems to me Elk River is turning into Hibbing hockey. As far as nobody wanting to stay at home for puck. Is Elk River HS hockey finished as a top program as Hibbing? It does seem Elk players don’t go to other high schools to play but to juniors though.

Come on K....
Why go after Elk River?
At least none of them are going to EP like your boys

muckandgrinder65 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:43 pm Come on K....
Why go after Elk River?
At least none of them are going to EP like your boys

I appreciate Elk, trust me. I’ve got a very good hockey dad/bud that lives in Elk and is a diehard. It’s just interesting that they haven’t kept their top end talent the last few years. Which is ver odd

kniven wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:17 pm

muckandgrinder65 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:43 pm Come on K....
Why go after Elk River?
At least none of them are going to EP like your boys

I appreciate Elk, trust me. I’ve got a very good hockey dad/bud that lives in Elk and is a diehard. It’s just interesting that they haven’t kept their top end talent the last few years. Which is ver odd

If you have such a good bud in ER, maybe ask him why instead of trolling on here..... No where close to Hibbing, just sayin.

I love this word, trolling”. What the he double hockey stick does”trolling” mean, anyway. It seams to me every post on this forum is a troll. So if I’m posting (trolling) I don’t need to hear from you smart people that I just posted on the forum...or trolled for the smart guy.

I also realize that you are cool when a smart guy calls an idiot out for trolling. It seems trolling is the cool work for the cool/smart guys in this forum.

muckandgrinder65 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:43 pm Come on K....
Why go after Elk River?
At least none of them are going to EP like your boys

@muckandgrinder65 Can fill an old guy in on the Elks club? I don't keep up on the "interweb" moving of players and did not know the Elks were losing kids early. First I ever heard about it was from the recent rantings posted in the 7AA thread. Might be nothing factual to it?

Thanks to Lee's post I saw that the Hounds lost 2 really good players to junior.
CEC appears to have had a family move based on the forum posts.

Other than that 7AA talk seems quiet in August.

hockey59 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:04 am

muckandgrinder65 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:45 pm Holy Hound-dog......!!
In the last 10 seasons, Duluth East has a 29-1 record in the Section 7AA tournament, with 9 state appearances.
Going to state 6 times in a row, narrowly losing to Rapids in 2016, the eventual State Champion.
I don't care if they go 5 and 20 during the regular season, It will take a supreme effort and some hockey god will to beat East at Amsoil.
It is just the way things are. Kind of like the Twins beating the Yankees in NY during the play-offs.

Wayzata won AA State in 2016, GR in 2017 (after rising from the dead during the 3rd period vs ER at Amsoil). No one is denying Mike R. being an excellent coach, he clearly is. That said, the facts are DE hasn’t won AA State in going on 22 years & they play at home during the semifinals & Finals of EVERY Section tourney, something they share with only one other team (HM at Aldrich). DE is not the Yankees of HS hockey, the only team who might be accurately termed the Yankees are the hated Hornets

I know it is single a, but St. Cloud Cathedral also plays at home during the semifinals and Finals EVERY section tournament. Supposedly it is a "central location" (it's not) and it is the only "acceptable venue" (It's not). I will say it's more fun to break some hearts on a team's home ice though.

zooomx wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:12 pm

hockey59 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:04 am

muckandgrinder65 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:45 pm Holy Hound-dog......!!
In the last 10 seasons, Duluth East has a 29-1 record in the Section 7AA tournament, with 9 state appearances.
Going to state 6 times in a row, narrowly losing to Rapids in 2016, the eventual State Champion.
I don't care if they go 5 and 20 during the regular season, It will take a supreme effort and some hockey god will to beat East at Amsoil.
It is just the way things are. Kind of like the Twins beating the Yankees in NY during the play-offs.

Wayzata won AA State in 2016, GR in 2017 (after rising from the dead during the 3rd period vs ER at Amsoil). No one is denying Mike R. being an excellent coach, he clearly is. That said, the facts are DE hasn’t won AA State in going on 22 years & they play at home during the semifinals & Finals of EVERY Section tourney, something they share with only one other team (HM at Aldrich). DE is not the Yankees of HS hockey, the only team who might be accurately termed the Yankees are the hated Hornets

I know it is single a, but St. Cloud Cathedral also plays at home during the semifinals and Finals EVERY section tournament. Supposedly it is a "central location" (it's not) and it is the only "acceptable venue" (It's not). I will say it's more fun to break some hearts on a team's home ice though.

You are correct about SCC & Hermantown too. I simply didn’t count them in this context I was referring only to AA Sections.

hockey59 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:04 am

muckandgrinder65 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:45 pm Holy Hound-dog......!!
In the last 10 seasons, Duluth East has a 29-1 record in the Section 7AA tournament, with 9 state appearances.
Going to state 6 times in a row, narrowly losing to Rapids in 2016, the eventual State Champion.
I don't care if they go 5 and 20 during the regular season, It will take a supreme effort and some hockey god will to beat East at Amsoil.
It is just the way things are. Kind of like the Twins beating the Yankees in NY during the play-offs.

That said, the facts are DE hasn’t won AA State in going on 22 years

Of course they haven’t. Cities teams get to play at home. Home team always wins.

hockey59 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:30 pm

zooomx wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:12 pm

hockey59 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:04 am

Wayzata won AA State in 2016, GR in 2017 (after rising from the dead during the 3rd period vs ER at Amsoil). No one is denying Mike R. being an excellent coach, he clearly is. That said, the facts are DE hasn’t won AA State in going on 22 years & they play at home during the semifinals & Finals of EVERY Section tourney, something they share with only one other team (HM at Aldrich). DE is not the Yankees of HS hockey, the only team who might be accurately termed the Yankees are the hated Hornets

I know it is single a, but St. Cloud Cathedral also plays at home during the semifinals and Finals EVERY section tournament. Supposedly it is a "central location" (it's not) and it is the only "acceptable venue" (It's not). I will say it's more fun to break some hearts on a team's home ice though.

You are correct about SCC & Hermantown too. I simply didn’t count them in this context I was referring only to AA Sections.

LOL, Hermantown drives 11 miles to Amsoil Arena from the High School, but they're at home.

Edina, EP and WBL all had shorter drives than that to their Section Semi and/or Finals and made it to State last year. Were they all at home too?

I understand if we're talking Blaine or STA. They each had to drive 13 miles. At least STA got to be at home for the Semi's, so they were able to save some legs for the long finals trek on the bus.

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