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kniven
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Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by kniven » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:54 pm

.....come on, forum. Let’s get this party started 👍

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by muckandgrinder65 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:58 pm

Karl still on the wagon?

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by WestMetro » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:36 pm

Ill take a stab at it. Excuse errors or omissions. Rank, key players, and tentative goalie are shown


1, EP Middlestadts(2), Holt, Blake, Batchelder,Langefels Steeves, Langenbrunner, Busby, G: Rosenlund
2. BSM Mesenberg,Schweitzer,Sarsland,Marshall,Bisson,Callahan,EllingsonG: Limesand
3 RSMT Wheeler,Levandowski, Stramel,Kenefick,Ratzlaff,Campbell G: Tollefson
4 BLAKE Miller, Dexheimer, Broz, Best, Svenddal, Mahoney, G: Reid
5 ANDOVER, Kaiser, Kron ,Thoreson,Chartier Vandermey G: Swenson,

6 TONKA: Lagerbeck,Streeter,Lacomy, ,Zitzloff,Miller ,Newhouse, Henry G: Shantz
7, MG Kukkoken, Henry, Jacobs ,Reller G: Wieneke
8 BLAINE Richels,Hansen,Streeter,Reiman,G:Simonson
9 WBL Newpower, Roed,Rose,Frattalone, G: Steffens
10 LVS Novak Ludtke, Oelrich,Ahrenholz , G: Ticen

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by kniven » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:40 pm

WestMetro wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:36 pm
Ill take a stab at it. Excuse errors or omissions. Rank, key players, and tentative goalie are shown


1, EP Middlestadts(2), Holt, Blake, Batchelder,Langefels Steeves, Langenbrunner, Busby, G: Rosenlund
2. BSM Mesenberg,Schweitzer,Sarsland,Marshall,Bisson,Callahan,EllingsonG: Limesand
3 RSMT Wheeler,Levandowski, Stramel,Kenefick,Ratzlaff,Campbell G: Tollefson
4 BLAKE Miller, Dexheimer, Broz, Best, Svenddal, Mahoney, G: Reid
5 ANDOVER, Kaiser, Kron ,Thoreson,Chartier Vandermey G: Swenson,

6 TONKA: Lagerbeck,Streeter,Lacomy, ,Zitzloff,Miller ,Newhouse, Henry G: Shantz
7, MG Kukkoken, Henry, Jacobs ,Reller G: Wieneke
8 BLAINE Richels,Hansen,Streeter,Reiman,G:Simonson
9 WBL Newpower, Roed,Rose,Frattalone, G: Steffens
10 LVS Novak Ludtke, Oelrich,Ahrenholz , G: Ticen
Eden Prairie going to be ballin this year. Oly smokes 😐

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by Section 8 guy » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:00 am

Stillwater and Moorhead will both likely be top 10 teams with top 5 potential this year. I tend to think WM has a decent starting point but has Blaine and Andover a bit underrated and Rosemount and Lakeville South somewhat overrated.

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by InThePipes » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:26 am

Section 8 guy wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:00 am
Stillwater and Moorhead will both likely be top 10 teams with top 5 potential this year. I tend to think WM has a decent starting point but has Blaine and Andover a bit underrated and Rosemount and Lakeville South somewhat overrated.
I had similar thoughts, Rosemount will be very good but #3 seems a little high and LVS will be very solid, but I think there are a number of teams I'd slot ahead of them including H-M and even Edina (while they will be down and may not have as much high-end star power there is still a lot of depth there).

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by thefatcat » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:01 am

WestMetro wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:36 pm
Ill take a stab at it. Excuse errors or omissions. Rank, key players, and tentative goalie are shown


1, EP Middlestadts(2), Holt, Blake, Batchelder,Langefels Steeves, Langenbrunner, Busby, G: Rosenlund
2. BSM Mesenberg,Schweitzer,Sarsland,Marshall,Bisson,Callahan,EllingsonG: Limesand
3 RSMT Wheeler,Levandowski, Stramel,Kenefick,Ratzlaff,Campbell G: Tollefson
4 BLAKE Miller, Dexheimer, Broz, Best, Svenddal, Mahoney, G: Reid
5 ANDOVER, Kaiser, Kron ,Thoreson,Chartier Vandermey G: Swenson,

6 TONKA: Lagerbeck,Streeter,Lacomy, ,Zitzloff,Miller ,Newhouse, Henry G: Shantz
7, MG Kukkoken, Henry, Jacobs ,Reller G: Wieneke
8 BLAINE Richels,Hansen,Streeter,Reiman,G:Simonson
9 WBL Newpower, Roed,Rose,Frattalone, G: Steffens
10 LVS Novak Ludtke, Oelrich,Ahrenholz , G: Ticen
Who is the last guy listed for BSM...Ellingson? Wayzata or OMG kid?

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by InThePipes » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:03 am

thefatcat wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:01 am
WestMetro wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:36 pm
Ill take a stab at it. Excuse errors or omissions. Rank, key players, and tentative goalie are shown


1, EP Middlestadts(2), Holt, Blake, Batchelder,Langefels Steeves, Langenbrunner, Busby, G: Rosenlund
2. BSM Mesenberg,Schweitzer,Sarsland,Marshall,Bisson,Callahan,EllingsonG: Limesand
3 RSMT Wheeler,Levandowski, Stramel,Kenefick,Ratzlaff,Campbell G: Tollefson
4 BLAKE Miller, Dexheimer, Broz, Best, Svenddal, Mahoney, G: Reid
5 ANDOVER, Kaiser, Kron ,Thoreson,Chartier Vandermey G: Swenson,

6 TONKA: Lagerbeck,Streeter,Lacomy, ,Zitzloff,Miller ,Newhouse, Henry G: Shantz
7, MG Kukkoken, Henry, Jacobs ,Reller G: Wieneke
8 BLAINE Richels,Hansen,Streeter,Reiman,G:Simonson
9 WBL Newpower, Roed,Rose,Frattalone, G: Steffens
10 LVS Novak Ludtke, Oelrich,Ahrenholz , G: Ticen
Who is the last guy listed for BSM...Ellingson? Wayzata or OMG kid?

I think he means Ellings, former Providence player

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by WestMetro » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:10 am

Autocorrect glitch on Ellings

Also got PM that I forgot Wolfe for Andover . Good catch . Perhaps the best first D pair in the state?

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by muckandgrinder65 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:22 am

Here are the same teams ranked by:
Total number of players with at least 20 points-last,regular season- by expected returning players
(JJ out for MG, ML in for EP)
PLUS number of players in EL this fall.

1) BSM
2) Tonka
3)Andover
4)Rosemount
5)WBL
6)EP
6)Blaine
(TIE)
8)MG
9)Edina
10) LVS

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by muckandgrinder65 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:24 am

Sorry Edina wasnt on original list and
Blake is also tied with Blaine and EP.

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by PuckNA » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:59 pm

Ran into a Bengal dad recently.. thinks they might be considerably below last season. He's concerned about goal-tending (0 starts going into Sr year.), says he heard they are trying out forwards to play D as they are so weak on back side, and thinks loss of Brodzinski puts to much pressure on Richels, and like every season he's "the Man", he gets run down by season end as not enough support. He doesn't know if they can sustain past the top line against other deeper opponents. Thinks they are going to have to live off PP opportunities. I am sure it's just talk, but thought it was interesting.

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by BodyShots » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:25 am

WestMetro wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:36 pm
Ill take a stab at it. Excuse errors or omissions. Rank, key players, and tentative goalie are shown


1, EP Middlestadts(2), Holt, Blake, Batchelder,Langefels Steeves, Langenbrunner, Busby, G: Rosenlund
2. BSM Mesenberg,Schweitzer,Sarsland,Marshall,Bisson,Callahan,EllingsonG: Limesand
3 RSMT Wheeler,Levandowski, Stramel,Kenefick,Ratzlaff,Campbell G: Tollefson
4 BLAKE Miller, Dexheimer, Broz, Best, Svenddal, Mahoney, G: Reid
5 ANDOVER, Kaiser, Kron ,Thoreson,Chartier Vandermey G: Swenson,

6 TONKA: Lagerbeck,Streeter,Lacomy, ,Zitzloff,Miller ,Newhouse, Henry G: Shantz
7, MG Kukkoken, Henry, Jacobs ,Reller G: Wieneke
8 BLAINE Richels,Hansen,Streeter,Reiman,G:Simonson
9 WBL Newpower, Roed,Rose,Frattalone, G: Steffens
10 LVS Novak Ludtke, Oelrich,Ahrenholz , G: Ticen
A top 10 list without Edina? Seas and Rivers boiling! Cats and Dogs living together! WHAT.

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by elliott70 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:29 am

BodyShots wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:25 am
WestMetro wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:36 pm
Ill take a stab at it. Excuse errors or omissions. Rank, key players, and tentative goalie are shown


1, EP Middlestadts(2), Holt, Blake, Batchelder,Langefels Steeves, Langenbrunner, Busby, G: Rosenlund
2. BSM Mesenberg,Schweitzer,Sarsland,Marshall,Bisson,Callahan,EllingsonG: Limesand
3 RSMT Wheeler,Levandowski, Stramel,Kenefick,Ratzlaff,Campbell G: Tollefson
4 BLAKE Miller, Dexheimer, Broz, Best, Svenddal, Mahoney, G: Reid
5 ANDOVER, Kaiser, Kron ,Thoreson,Chartier Vandermey G: Swenson,

6 TONKA: Lagerbeck,Streeter,Lacomy, ,Zitzloff,Miller ,Newhouse, Henry G: Shantz
7, MG Kukkoken, Henry, Jacobs ,Reller G: Wieneke
8 BLAINE Richels,Hansen,Streeter,Reiman,G:Simonson
9 WBL Newpower, Roed,Rose,Frattalone, G: Steffens
10 LVS Novak Ludtke, Oelrich,Ahrenholz , G: Ticen
A top 10 list without Edina? Seas and Rivers boiling! Cats and Dogs living together! WHAT.
A top 10 list without an outstate team? No Moorhead, Roseau, Duluth East, Grand Rapids?!?!?
Seas and Rivers boiling! Cats and Dogs living together! WHAT!!!?

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by yesiplayedhockey » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:36 am

And NO east side privates? Is this a sign of the times?

Is Blake the new St Thomas?

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by TheNightman » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:49 am

Hill is still pretty young but they have a ton of talent.

Anyone know if Oberle is coming back?

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by WestMetro » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:15 pm

muckandgrinder65 wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:22 am
Here are the same teams ranked by:
Total number of players with at least 20 points-last,regular season- by expected returning players
(JJ out for MG, ML in for EP)
PLUS number of players in EL this fall.

1) BSM
2) Tonka
3)Andover
4)Rosemount
5)WBL
6)EP
6)Blaine
(TIE)!
8)MG
9)Edina
10) LVS
Nice analysis Muck! Curious if you have thoughts on the next batch 11-15 teams using your method?

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by muckandgrinder65 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:32 pm

WM-
I didn't select the teams, only ranked the ones that were selected.
If you can provide the next 5 I can rank them by the same method.
Edina for example had Zero for returning player as they lost their top 6 to graduation :(

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by muckandgrinder65 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:00 pm

[quote=PuckNA post_id=736420 time=1565726367 user_id=25302]
Ran into a Bengal dad recently.. thinks they might be considerably below last season. He's concerned about goal-tending (0 starts going into Sr year.), says he heard they are trying out forwards to play D as they are so weak on back side, and thinks loss of Brodzinski puts to much pressure on Richels, and like every season he's "the Man", he gets run down by season end as not enough support. He doesn't know if they can sustain past the top line against other deeper opponents. Thinks they are going to have to live off PP opportunities. I am sure it's just talk, but thought it was interesting.
[/quote]

Might be stemming from the 6-0 loss to Andover
At Blaine’s fundraiser tourney earlier this summer.
2 goalies played
I think one of them have up a Hattie to a mediocre Andover kid.
Richels and his line mates barley played.
BTW- Richels should be in the running for player of the year. Big fast skilled-
Blaine should be back at state if they can figure out the netminder situation

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by karl(east) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:06 pm

muckandgrinder65 wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:58 pm
Karl still on the wagon?
Just lurking about, as I often do in summer. Gotta save my bullets for November.

Not that I'm not giving it some thought...decent chance a podcast will appear before the end of the month which will force me to start getting things into gear.

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by kniven » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:31 pm

karl(east) wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:06 pm
muckandgrinder65 wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:58 pm
Karl still on the wagon?
Just lurking about, as I often do in summer. Gotta save my bullets for November.

Not that I'm not giving it some thought...decent chance a podcast will appear before the end of the month which will force me to start getting things into gear.
That would be “sweet” 🤓👀

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by goldy313 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:12 am

Hastings should be lurking around the area somewhere.

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by hockey59 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:02 am

muckandgrinder65 wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:00 pm
PuckNA wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:59 pm
Ran into a Bengal dad recently.. thinks they might be considerably below last season. He's concerned about goal-tending (0 starts going into Sr year.), says he heard they are trying out forwards to play D as they are so weak on back side, and thinks loss of Brodzinski puts to much pressure on Richels, and like every season he's "the Man", he gets run down by season end as not enough support. He doesn't know if they can sustain past the top line against other deeper opponents. Thinks they are going to have to live off PP opportunities. I am sure it's just talk, but thought it was interesting.
Might be stemming from the 6-0 loss to Andover
At Blaine’s fundraiser tourney earlier this summer.
2 goalies played
I think one of them have up a Hattie to a mediocre Andover kid.
Richels and his line mates barley played.
BTW- Richels should be in the running for player of the year. Big fast skilled-
Blaine should be back at state if they can figure out the netminder situation
Blaine isn’t getting past Maple Grove in 5AA this year, no way ☝️

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by kniven » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:42 am

Disagree on Maple Grove. That programs mission is to Freon excellent hockey players and get to state every year in squirt, peewee and bantams. Then FEED the great high school teams in Minnesota when those youth hockey kids get to high school.

Maple Grove has a great youth hockey program. Why not send your kid there and have them groomed for high school elsewhere. MG had better start having success in HS or they’ll continue to be seen as a feeder.

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Re: Let’s see some top 10 lists for AA, 2019

Post by chester1991 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:15 pm

1) Eden Prairie

2) Andover

3) Benidle

4) Maple Grove

5) Hill Murray

6) Blaine

7) Rosemount

8) Blake

9) Minnetonka

10) Wayzata

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