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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by Where is F3? » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:13 am

Stang5280 wrote:
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Cathedral 7 at Little Falls 3 (The Flyers were up 2-0 and 3-1, I believe)
Yes they were. LF controlled play throughout the first period. Cathedral scored right off the bat in the second, and then responded quickly after LF went back up 3-1, and you could tell that the Flyers were hanging on for dear life. The wheels came completely off after that point, unfortunately.

Also, what the heck is River Lakes doing in losing to a stinky Sartell team? RL confuses me.
RL gave up 3 PP goals and went 0-5 on the PP. Very similar to how Alex lost to Monti.

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:26 am

Thursday, January 23 (5)
Alexandria 2 at River Lakes 1
Park Rapids 5 at Breckenridge/Wahpeton 8
Fergus Falls 4 at Willmar 3 OT
Prairie Centre 1 at Detroit Lakes 4
Bagley/Fosston 2 at Wadena-Deer Creek 7

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by Mite-dad » Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:02 am

LF at Princeton tonight. Could be a tough game for LF. Princeton has been playing well of late, and LF coming off an emotional loss to SCC. LF has had trouble in Princeton in the past. Should be interesting.

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by Stang5280 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:32 pm

BSUBeaver wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:26 am
Thursday, January 23 (5)
Alexandria 2 at River Lakes 1
Park Rapids 5 at Breckenridge/Wahpeton 8
Fergus Falls 4 at Willmar 3 OT
Prairie Centre 1 at Detroit Lakes 4
Bagley/Fosston 2 at Wadena-Deer Creek 7
No Caleb Strong for Alex after his ejection from the Monticello game. The Cards were lucky to avoid the upset.

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by ClassAGuy » Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:51 pm

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LF at Princeton tonight. Could be a tough game for LF. Princeton has been playing well of late, and LF coming off an emotional loss to SCC. LF has had trouble in Princeton in the past. Should be interesting.
2-1 Little Falls after one but it has not been pretty for the Flyers so far.

3-2 Princeton after 2

Good response by Fylers up 5-3 in the third

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:24 am

Friday, January 24 (4)
Little Falls 5 at Princeton 3
Brainerd 5 at Sartell-St. Stephen 1
Wadena-Deer Creek 3 at Northern Lakes 4
Morris/Benson 6 at May/Port (ND) 2

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:22 am

Saturday, January 25 (4)
Mahtomedi 4 at Cathedral 5 OT
Fergus Falls 7 at Red Wing 0
River Lakes 2 at Prairie Centre 1
Virginia/Mountain Iron-Buhl 2 at Sartell-St. Stephen 5

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:25 am

Week 11 Schedule

Monday, January 27 (2)
Morris/Benson at Prairie Centre
Cathedral at Alexandria

Tuesday, January 28 (6)
River Lakes at Alexandria
Wadena-Deer Creek at Cathedral
Prairie Centre at Park Rapids
Sartell-St. Stephen at Monticello
Fergus Falls at Little Falls
Breckinridge/Wahpeton at Kittson Central

Thursday, January 30 (5)
St. Cloud at Alexandria
Breckenridge/Wahpeton at Prairie Centre
Cathedral at Monticello
Fergus Falls at River Lakes
Detroit Lakes at Wadena-Deer Creek

Friday, January 31 (3)
Rochester Lourdes at Cathedral
Red Lake Falls at Morris/Benson
Sauk Rapids-Rice at Sartell-St. Stephen

Saturday, February 1 (4)
Rochester Lourdes at Little Falls
Worthington at Morris/Benson
Mankato West at Sartell-St. Stephen
Red Lake Falls at Breckenridge/Wahpeton
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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:16 pm

Standings as of 1/27/20 (ranked based on QRF, Section Record, Overall Record)

No. 1 St. Cloud Cathedral (108.0) 4-0-0 14-1-1
No. 8 Alexandria (73.5) 4-0-0 12-5-0
No. 11 Little Falls (68.3) 4-3-0 15-4-1
No. 21 Morris/Benson Area (58.6) 3-1-0 14-3-0
No. 29 River Lakes (53.7) 6-4-0 10-7-1
No. 44 Fergus Falls (46.1) 2-5-0 10-9-1
No. 45 Breckenridge/Wahpeton (45.5) 3-3-0 12-6-0
No. 59 Sartell-St. Stephen (33.7) 2-5-0 4-14-1
No. 64 Prairie Centre Area (31.1) 2-5-0 5-13-1
No. 67 Wadena-Deer Creek (27.9) 2-6-0 6-13-1

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:58 pm

Cathedral 5, Alex 2. Cathedral owned the first period with 2 goals on 13(?) shots (one shot on goal.for Alex) including the first of the game. Alex came back and tied it at 2-2 at the end of two. The third, Perbix, Warner and Motzko took over and Alex couldn't answer.

A physical game, but fairly clean with only one penalty a side. The refs definitely let them play and I thought were very consistant.

Alex was without Caleb Strong again. I would give Chris Loken the star of the game for Alex as he turned away several Crusader odd man rushes, keeping the Cardinals in the game in the first period.

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by ClassAGuy » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:43 pm

BSUBeaver wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:58 pm
Cathedral 5, Alex 2. Cathedral owned the first period with 2 goals on 13(?) shots (one shot on goal.for Alex) including the first of the game. Alex came back and tied it at 2-2 at the end of two. The third, Perbix, Warner and Motzko took over and Alex couldn't answer.

A physical game, but fairly clean with only one penalty a side. The refs definitely let them play and I thought were very consistant.

Alex was without Caleb Strong again. I would give Chris Loken the star of the game for Alex as he turned away several Crusader odd man rushes, keeping the Cardinals in the game in the first period.
Wow Alexandria tied with SCC after 2 periods missing their top gun Strong very impressive!

Did Jack Smith play for Cathedral?

Little Falls and Alexandria have proven over the last week they can definately play with SCC. Section 6A should be fun not the run away some had predicted.

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by Mite-dad » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:01 am

ClassAGuy wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:43 pm
BSUBeaver wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:58 pm
Cathedral 5, Alex 2. Cathedral owned the first period with 2 goals on 13(?) shots (one shot on goal.for Alex) including the first of the game. Alex came back and tied it at 2-2 at the end of two. The third, Perbix, Warner and Motzko took over and Alex couldn't answer.

A physical game, but fairly clean with only one penalty a side. The refs definitely let them play and I thought were very consistant.

Alex was without Caleb Strong again. I would give Chris Loken the star of the game for Alex as he turned away several Crusader odd man rushes, keeping the Cardinals in the game in the first period.
Wow Alexandria tied with SCC after 2 periods missing their top gun Strong very impressive!

Did Jack Smith play for Cathedral?

Little Falls and Alexandria have proven over the last week they can definately play with SCC. Section 6A should be fun not the run away some had predicted.
Maybe, but losing by 3 or 4 goals says to me that LF or Alex needs to play 3 full periods. Not easy. They would have to play a perfect game to beat them. SCC speed offensively is tough to overcome. Their forecheck is impressive and makes it difficult to get the puck out of the zone. If you can get some shots on the goalie, you've got a chance. But man! You better put together 3 good periods, because SCC can put in goals in bunches if you have a lapse.

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:36 am

ClassAGuy wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:43 pm
BSUBeaver wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:58 pm
Cathedral 5, Alex 2. Cathedral owned the first period with 2 goals on 13(?) shots (one shot on goal.for Alex) including the first of the game. Alex came back and tied it at 2-2 at the end of two. The third, Perbix, Warner and Motzko took over and Alex couldn't answer.

A physical game, but fairly clean with only one penalty a side. The refs definitely let them play and I thought were very consistent.

Alex was without Caleb Strong again. I would give Chris Loken the star of the game for Alex as he turned away several Crusader odd man rushes, keeping the Cardinals in the game in the first period.
Wow Alexandria tied with SCC after 2 periods missing their top gun Strong very impressive!

Did Jack Smith play for Cathedral?

Little Falls and Alexandria have proven over the last week they can definately play with SCC. Section 6A should be fun not the run away some had predicted.
No Jack Smith. The Perbix, Warner and Motzko line had all five goals, and if I had to guess, they spent 60%, if not more, of the time on the ice. Cathedral rode those horses last night.

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:13 am

Monday, January 27 (2)
Morris/Benson 2 at Prairie Centre 1 OT
Cathedral 5 at Alexandria 2

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:30 am

Tuesday, January 28 (6)
River Lakes 0 at Alexandria 4
Wadena-Deer Creek 2 at Cathedral 11
Prairie Centre 2 at Park Rapids 1
Sartell-St. Stephen 1 at Monticello 2
Fergus Falls 3 at Little Falls 4
Breckinridge/Wahpeton 3 at Kittson Central 9

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:23 am

Thursday, January 30
St. Cloud 4 at Alexandria 0
Breckenridge/Wahpeton 6 at Prairie Centre 3
Cathedral 8 at Monticello 1
Fergus Falls 1 at River Lakes 4
Detroit Lakes 2 at Wadena-Deer Creek 3

Surprised by the St. Cloud/Alexandria score. I wasn't at the game, but I thought getting Caleb Strong back would have added some punch back into the lineup. The Cardinals played well against Cathedral on Monday and River Lakes on Tuesday, so maybe three games in four days got to them? If that is the case, the Cardinals have four games next week. This loss most likely cost the Cardinals a share of the CLC titles (St. Cloud only has one conference game left against Fergus Falls).

Also surprised at the spread of the Cathedral/Monticello game. The Moose took it to the Cardinals in Alexandria, and Alexandria gave Cathedral fits. So, I thought the score would have been closer.

I guess that is what I get for thinking about what may happen based on comparative scores.

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:16 am

Friday, January 31 (3)
Rochester Lourdes 0 at Cathedral 9
Red Lake Falls 7 at Morris/Benson 3
Sauk Rapids-Rice 3 at Sartell-St. Stephen 0

Saturday, February 1 (4)
Rochester Lourdes 1 at Little Falls 7
Worthington 1 at Morris/Benson 7
Mankato West 1 at Sartell-St. Stephen 3
Red Lake Falls 6 at Breckenridge/Wahpeton 5

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:17 am

Week 12 Schedule

Monday, February 3 (2)
Alexandria at Fergus Falls
River Lakes at Willmar

Tuesday, February 4 (3)
Little Falls at Alexandria
Morris/Benson at Wadena-Deer Creek
Hutchinson at River Lakes

Thursday, February 6 (4)
Alexandria at Brainerd
Kittson Central at Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Prairie Centre at Mora/Milaca
River Lakes at Sauk Rapids-Rice

Friday, February 7 (5)
Duluth Denfeld at Alexandria
Moorhead at Cathedral
Wadena-Deer Creek at Fergus Falls
Sauk Rapids-Rice at Little Falls
Willmar at Sartell-St. Stephen

Saturday, February 8 (5)
Becker-Big Lake at Breckenridge/Wahpeton
Wayzata at Cathedral
Bagley/Fosston at Morris/Benson
Duluth Denfeld at Sartell-St. Stephen
Wadena-Deer Creek at Red Lake Falls

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:04 pm

Standings as of 2/03/20 (ranked based on QRF, Section Record, Overall Record)

No. 1 St. Cloud Cathedral (111.4) 6-0-0 18-1-1
No. 11 Alexandria (76.8) 5-1-0 13-7-0
No. 12 Little Falls (74.0) 5-3-0 17-4-1
No. 25 Morris/Benson Area (60.3) 4-1-0 16-4-0
No. 26 River Lakes (59.4) 7-5-0 11-8-1
No. 50 Fergus Falls (48.4) 2-7-0 10-11-1
No. 51 Breckenridge/Wahpeton (46.6) 4-3-0 13-8-0
No. 57 Sartell-St. Stephen (39.1) 2-5-0 5-16-1
No. 63 Wadena-Deer Creek (34.7) 2-7-0 7-14-1
No. 64 Prairie Centre Area (34.5) 2-7-0 6-15-1

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by Joe2015 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:21 pm

is the QRF rankings published somewhere? What sections use that for their seedings?

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:06 pm

Joe2015 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:21 pm
is the QRF rankings published somewhere? What sections use that for their seedings?
The actual formula is not published as it is intellectual property of it's creator. The standings can be found at the Minnesota-Scores website.

http://minnesota-scores.net/classstandi ... 9&class=-1

I am not 100% sure what sections use it for hockey. I know most Football Sections and a majority of the Basketball Sections use it. Is it perfect? No, but most coaches in those sports have agreed to use it as it is better than any smoke filled back room dealings.

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by elliott70 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:08 pm

Joe2015 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:21 pm
is the QRF rankings published somewhere? What sections use that for their seedings?
No. 1 St. Cloud Cathedral (111.4)

No. 11 Alexandria (76.8)

No. 12 Little Falls (74.0)

No. 25 Morris/Benson Area (60.3)

No. 26 River Lakes (59.4)
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No. 50 Fergus Falls (48.4)

No. 51 Breckenridge/Wahpeton (46.6)

No. 57 Sartell-St. Stephen (39.1)

No. 63 Wadena-Deer Creek (34.7)

No. 64 Prairie Centre Area (34.5)


Minnesota score . net

To my knowledge only Section 7AA uses it.

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by Joe2015 » Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:34 am

BSUBeaver wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:06 pm
Joe2015 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:21 pm
is the QRF rankings published somewhere? What sections use that for their seedings?
The actual formula is not published as it is intellectual property of it's creator. The standings can be found at the Minnesota-Scores website.

http://minnesota-scores.net/classstandi ... 9&class=-1

I am not 100% sure what sections use it for hockey. I know most Football Sections and a majority of the Basketball Sections use it. Is it perfect? No, but most coaches in those sports have agreed to use it as it is better than any smoke filled back room dealings.
Yeah: there are NO PLEASING some people when it comes to determining section rankings. If you go with a straight coaches rankings system or some other polling system, there is certainly room for bias. And if you go with computerized ranking system, people will complain "well what about the eye test?"

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:39 am

Joe2015 wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:34 am
BSUBeaver wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:06 pm
Joe2015 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:21 pm
is the QRF rankings published somewhere? What sections use that for their seedings?
The actual formula is not published as it is intellectual property of it's creator. The standings can be found at the Minnesota-Scores website.

http://minnesota-scores.net/classstandi ... 9&class=-1

I am not 100% sure what sections use it for hockey. I know most Football Sections and a majority of the Basketball Sections use it. Is it perfect? No, but most coaches in those sports have agreed to use it as it is better than any smoke filled back room dealings.
Yeah: there are NO PLEASING some people when it comes to determining section rankings. If you go with a straight coaches rankings system or some other polling system, there is certainly room for bias. And if you go with computerized ranking system, people will complain "well what about the eye test?"
Having sat in on those coaches meeting in other sports for seedings back when I was coaching, I saw coaches trying to figure out how to work the seedings (lobbying) to get their team the easiest path in the tournament rather than ranking based on results.

I am all for computerized rankings. They use the Pairwise in college hockey to select the at large teams to the NCAA tournament, and every team has a general idea at the beginning of the year what they need to do to get in.

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Re: Section 6A 2019-20

Post by BSUBeaver » Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:44 am

Monday, February 3 (2)
Alexandria 4 at Fergus Falls 3
River Lakes 5 at Willmar 0

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