Yeah, if you take a single sentence out of a greater paragraph than you can take it out of context.BodyShots wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:04 pmExcuse me, but Roseville youth hockey used to be pretty dominate in the 60's, 70's and 80's but by the time they got to High School, they split up between Ramsey, Kellogg, and HM. Maybe they would have won a lot of state titles if they stuck together and had a school big enough for all of them.green4 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:45 amIm on the other side, I count Edina East in with the Edina totals because East was the original Edina school and because they still won three titles with half the kids. I am not sure I agree with the argument that it is unfair that they have two chances when to me it seems like they diluted their talent for a decade. Imagine how many championships they would have won if they had stuck together. It obviously wasn't an option if you are aware of how the number of kids had outgrown the high school space, but if they stuck together there is a chance they would have won another title in the 70's.Sparlimb wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:42 pm
I don't either. You can count them when you combine schools except when you were once two schools. It does seem unfair to have two chances at a title and count those the same as the rest of the schools that had one.
Just like I've seen one or two places where WBL tries to count the Mariner 2nd place finish as a first round win...
If West ever won a state title I think I would have a different opinion because they were the pop up school.
My argument was about when Edina split up into two schools, they as a result made their hockey teams less talented than if they were hypothetically just one giant school during the time period. Someone made a point that said it was unfair that they count Edina East state championships with what the overall Edina total. That is up for argument and either side is fine, but I just pointed out the same physical school with the same "Hornets" name won three titles after they took away half the student population. Again, its up for debate if you want to separate Edina East from Edina titles, but my point was not about the "what if" example that was highlighted in your response. It was a silly thing that I wish I never included in my original post because it really did not help my argument and it appears to be the thing you focused on.
Sorry if my original post was poorly worded, but to connect my point to your example with Roseville I would say: Would Roseville have been better or have more talented players on the ice if they sent their youth program to one school instead of three? Is it unfair that they were split up into multiple schools?
This is obviously not an apples to apples comparison, but I would think they would have been better as one school compared to multiple, and thats partially my point. In Edina's case it was roughly argued that people from Roseau thought it was unfair that Edina took away half its students and won three championships and counts them in the overall total. I would agree if they double the amount of students, but they literally took half away.