2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by WestMetro » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:46 pm

Maple Grove forum people - where will Brock Fabor be next year ?

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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by O-townClown » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:47 pm

WestMetro wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:44 pm
OTC - thinking Snuggerud is 90% gone , so that’s big blow for Chaska .
Depends. If he leaves his helmet or skates I think they are fine. Just his shin guards and that's a problem.

For the record, you've told me EVERYONE is gone! LOL
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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by WestMetro » Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:05 pm

OTC looks like nother year of parity . Don’t see any really dominant

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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by O-townClown » Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:30 am

YHH Early Projections

A
1 Hermantown
2 Warroad
3 East Grand Forks
4 Mahtomedi
5 Duluth Denfeld
6 Little Falls
7 Dodge County
8 Delano
9 Alexandria
10 Orono

AA
1 Eden Prairie
2 Maple Grove
3 Hill-Murray
4 Lakeville South
5 Prior Lake
6 Grand Rapids
7 St. Thomas Academy
8 Benilde-St. Margaret's
9 Roseau
10 Cretin-Derham Hall
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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by InThePipes » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:21 am

goldy313 wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:22 pm
I was on the South bandwagon all year......until I saw them in the playoffs. They made the goldy313 list of top 5 worst teams to make the state tournament out of 1AA since the two class split. They can’t score, they struggled in 1AA after the 1 vs 8 game and needed outside help at that to score. Hastings having to kill 7 power plays led to the shot disparity more than skill. South was shut out twice in St Paul, even a #6 seed in Austin could score and win a game. I can say with pretty much certainty Hastings would have scored a goal.

Hastings returns their goalie and top player along with some depth, hopefully they will play next season.
Truth. Puzzled why the various computer models seemed to rank them so highly this year (in the top 5-10 range for much of the year).

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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by Mite-dad » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:35 am

Where's Duluth East? Have they ever been out of the picture two years in a row?

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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by bardown27 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:38 am

goldy313 wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:22 pm
I was on the South bandwagon all year......until I saw them in the playoffs. They made the goldy313 list of top 5 worst teams to make the state tournament out of 1AA since the two class split. They can’t score, they struggled in 1AA after the 1 vs 8 game and needed outside help at that to score. Hastings having to kill 7 power plays led to the shot disparity more than skill. South was shut out twice in St Paul, even a #6 seed in Austin could score and win a game. I can say with pretty much certainty Hastings would have scored a goal.

Hastings returns their goalie and top player along with some depth, hopefully they will play next season.
Only had to kill 6 penalties, and Hastings doesn't return their top player, Freiermuth was easily their best player and he is a senior. If you think someone other than Freiermuth was their best player, you don't know hockey.

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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by ryguyMN » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:39 am

O-townClown wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:49 pm
ryguyMN wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:35 am
EP will probably slide down a bit next year. They lose Steeves and J. Mittelstadt, who had 99 regular season points between them. That’s tough to replace.
Jensen, Langefels, Wilhite, Jones, Rudrud…

They return: Batchelder, Holt, Mittelstadt, Langenbrunner, Blake, Brown, Luloff, Langefels. That's a lot.
Perhaps part of my lack of optimism was I'm still digesting Hill's beat down of EP a little more than a day old. They do have a good group returning and it will be interesting to see who steps up to fill the void. Batchelder, Holt, Mittelstadt, Langenbrunner, and Blake would be a good top line. Steeves and John Mittelstadt were such difference makers on that team. John could have easily been a Mr. Hockey finalist with Steeves.
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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by Usthockey13 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:11 am

Wondering why everyone is so high on GR? They will be a good team but the lose Clafton which I would say was a big reason for their success.

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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by Usthockey13 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:13 am

Mite-dad wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:35 am
Where's Duluth East? Have they ever been out of the picture two years in a row?
I would say most will write them off coming in to next year. They do need to find a goalie, but I think theyll be better than this past year. They had a lot of underclassmen get some good ice time last year. If you look at last years team 90% of the team had little to no varsity experience.

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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by InThePipes » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:28 am

Usthockey13 wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:13 am
Mite-dad wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:35 am
Where's Duluth East? Have they ever been out of the picture two years in a row?
I would say most will write them off coming in to next year. They do need to find a goalie, but I think theyll be better than this past year. They had a lot of underclassmen get some good ice time last year. If you look at last years team 90% of the team had little to no varsity experience.
Also appear to have have one of their better players departing next year?

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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by Usthockey13 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:51 am

whos that?

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Post by InThePipes » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:57 am

Usthockey13 wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:51 am
whos that?
YHH podcast has Ziemski leaving, he was their 2nd leading scorer (and top goal scorer) this past season.

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Post by Usthockey13 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:07 am

oh yea havent listened. Yea well I dont see one guy making that much of a difference, seemed as most his points come off others making the play. But time will tell. Now 8 months of speculations for all of HS hockey :D

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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by mrchips » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:13 am

There seems to be a pretty strong correlation between how your top bantam team did 3 years ago with how they do as Juniors/Seniors.

So looking at the Hub's 2017-18 rankings, Centennial is #4. And they've added talent since then. Have they lost kids off that roster, too?

Cloquet is #7.

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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by Edinahopkins » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:54 am

Wondering why everyone is so high on GR? They will be a good team but the lose Clafton which I would say was a big reason for their success.
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Clafton Is a major loss Goaltending is a going to be a very big issue for this group always has been. They are most likely going to be a top 10-15 team range just like this Season GR is going to most likely have a hard time scoring , I see a lot of 2-1 3-1 score’s again. They are good enough to get to state and could do damage but this group has never won a big game. If a certain player leaves early though they lose 60% of the offense, Grand Rapids is a nice decent team outside of Jack no real super star’s but with that said two Junior forwards have major upside that could potentially turn into super stars.

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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by TTpuckster » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:17 am

O-townClown wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:30 am
YHH Early Projections

A
1 Hermantown
2 Warroad
3 East Grand Forks
4 Mahtomedi
5 Duluth Denfeld
6 Little Falls
7 Dodge County
8 Delano
9 Alexandria
10 Orono

AA
1 Eden Prairie
2 Maple Grove
3 Hill-Murray
4 Lakeville South
5 Prior Lake
6 Grand Rapids
7 St. Thomas Academy
8 Benilde-St. Margaret's
9 Roseau
10 Cretin-Derham Hall
I know I'm biased, but I am a little skeptical of Warroad for next year. Losing Slykunsky is a big blow to the team.
EGF will now have Parker as a senior, Ausmus as a Junior, and Panzer as a sophmore.
I think I would put EGF ahead of them for next year, but as most people have said, it is way to early to be thinking about this, (even though I am :mrgreen: ).
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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by kniven » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:31 am

mrchips wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:13 am
There seems to be a pretty strong correlation between how your top bantam team did 3 years ago with how they do as Juniors/Seniors.

So looking at the Hub's 2017-18 rankings, Centennial is #4. And they've added talent since then. Have they lost kids off that roster, too?

Cloquet is #7.
Galatz and Langenbrunner were on that roster.
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Post by Usthockey13 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:42 am

Kniven- have to imagine CG isnt coming back for his Sr year? Any truth to the rumor Walsh may be looking to play elsewhere?

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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by ironranger2 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:48 am

Usthockey13 wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:42 am
Kniven- have to imagine CG isnt coming back for his Sr year? Any truth to the rumor Walsh may be looking to play elsewhere?
You didn't hear? Hermantown and Rapids have already been in touch. :D

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Post by kniven » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:57 am

Usthockey13 wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:42 am
Kniven- have to imagine CG isnt coming back for his Sr year? Any truth to the rumor Walsh may be looking to play elsewhere?
Well, CG is a great kid and a skilled hockey player with options. He’s playing in the all-star game this week, but I haven’t talked to him for a long time. I doubt he’s coming back to Cloquet, and I wish him the very best! Walsh is another great kid. Zach Tyman will be the senior goalie next year, though. Zach is very talented. He missed his entire junior year with injury though. And Kyle Abrahamson is another very nice goalie. I doubt Walsh will be going anywhere. But if he did, Tyman and Abrahamson are more than adequate.
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Post by kniven » Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:24 pm

Kids have so many options these days. I guess I’m not surprised when boys leave early or transfer out anymore. With that being said, I’m starting to enjoy and appreciate girls high school hockey a lot. They don’t leave early and or transfer out nearly as often as boys hockey players do. I’m about the team a lot, a lot more than the individual. High school football and high school girls hockey seem to be much better at their team sport than boys high school hockey in 2020. Boys high school hockey will always be my favorite. But you see, I have other options as well.
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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by Mite-dad » Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:31 pm

O-townClown wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:30 am
YHH Early Projections

A
1 Hermantown
2 Warroad
3 East Grand Forks
4 Mahtomedi
5 Duluth Denfeld
6 Little Falls
7 Dodge County
8 Delano
9 Alexandria
10 Orono

AA
1 Eden Prairie
2 Maple Grove
3 Hill-Murray
4 Lakeville South
5 Prior Lake
6 Grand Rapids
7 St. Thomas Academy
8 Benilde-St. Margaret's
9 Roseau
10 Cretin-Derham Hall
So which A team pulls the Hermantown upset next season?

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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by bardown27 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:32 pm

Mite-dad wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:31 pm
O-townClown wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:30 am
YHH Early Projections

A
1 Hermantown
2 Warroad
3 East Grand Forks
4 Mahtomedi
5 Duluth Denfeld
6 Little Falls
7 Dodge County
8 Delano
9 Alexandria
10 Orono

AA
1 Eden Prairie
2 Maple Grove
3 Hill-Murray
4 Lakeville South
5 Prior Lake
6 Grand Rapids
7 St. Thomas Academy
8 Benilde-St. Margaret's
9 Roseau
10 Cretin-Derham Hall
So which A team pulls the Hermantown upset next season?
Denfeld

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Re: 2020-21 Early Rankings: SWEET SIXTEEN

Post by BP » Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:44 pm

Brodziak Fan Club wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:15 pm
I don't have my finger on the pulse of early departures, so can someone tell me if there is buzz about whether or not Joe Miller comes back to Blake? If he comes back I think they'll be really good again. They have some quality young players who were role players this year but have the talent to be more. Also, Reid was a Junior this year if I'm not mistaken? Thanks for posting this thread. Even though it's way too early, it's always fun to speculate about the future.
Miller is doing before and after next season.

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