Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

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Who wins?

Elk River
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Moorhead
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Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by elliott70 » Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:21 am

Who wins?

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by Sparlimb » Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:37 am

Elliot, I know it was you who picked Elk River. Not going to happen...

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by elliott70 » Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:49 am

Sparlimb wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:37 am
Elliot, I know it was you who picked Elk River. Not going to happen...
I PICKED SARTELL.

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by Goose21 » Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:20 pm

Moorhead is a buzzsaw. ER benefitted from shakey goaltending in both close section wins. Don’t think that will happen against the Spuds
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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by Delayedoffsides » Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:35 pm

Goose21 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:20 pm
Moorhead is a buzzsaw. ER benefitted from shakey goaltending in both close section wins. Don’t think that will happen against the Spuds
Why not? Nobody was saying before the Roseau game that their goalie was “shakey”. It always amazes me the excuses people come up with when a so called favorite gets beat by a team nobody thought had a chance to win. Give ER credit they beat Roseau with a total team effort. If ER beats Moorhead on Wednesday night (which can happen very easily) I look forward to more excuses from 218. Seems like that’s happening very regularly these days!

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by Goose21 » Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:05 pm

Delayedoffsides wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:35 pm
Goose21 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:20 pm
Moorhead is a buzzsaw. ER benefitted from shakey goaltending in both close section wins. Don’t think that will happen against the Spuds
Why not? Nobody was saying before the Roseau game that their goalie was “shakey”. It always amazes me the excuses people come up with when a so called favorite gets beat by a team nobody thought had a chance to win. Give ER credit they beat Roseau with a total team effort. If ER beats Moorhead on Wednesday night (which can happen very easily) I look forward to more excuses from 218. Seems like that’s happening very regularly these days!
Roseau has had a tendency to let in some soft goals over the season. So not a new development. And goalies are just like everyone else, they have off nights, bad games, feel the play off pressure. In an upset, something usually goes right for the underdog, wrong for the favorite, or a combination. If everything went the way it was supposed to it wouldn’t be an upset. It could be any number of factors. One team is off, the other is on, puck luck, a goalie stands on his head, the favorite looking ahead, injuries, etc.

It is just analysis of one aspect of the game, nothing more. Didn’t care who won, so no need to be so sensitive or make conjectures.
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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by elliott70 » Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:26 pm

Goose21 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:05 pm
Delayedoffsides wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:35 pm
Goose21 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:20 pm
Moorhead is a buzzsaw. ER benefitted from shakey goaltending in both close section wins. Don’t think that will happen against the Spuds
Why not? Nobody was saying before the Roseau game that their goalie was “shakey”. It always amazes me the excuses people come up with when a so called favorite gets beat by a team nobody thought had a chance to win. Give ER credit they beat Roseau with a total team effort. If ER beats Moorhead on Wednesday night (which can happen very easily) I look forward to more excuses from 218. Seems like that’s happening very regularly these days!
Roseau has had a tendency to let in some soft goals over the season. So not a new development. And goalies are just like everyone else, they have off nights, bad games, feel the play off pressure. In an upset, something usually goes right for the underdog, wrong for the favorite, or a combination. If everything went the way it was supposed to it wouldn’t be an upset. It could be any number of factors. One team is off, the other is on, puck luck, a goalie stands on his head, the favorite looking ahead, injuries, etc.

It is just analysis of one aspect of the game, nothing more. Didn’t care who won, so no need to be so sensitive or make conjectures.
Roseau's starting goalie did not play against Elk River, is that right?

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by Delayedoffsides » Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:24 pm

elliott70 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:26 pm
Goose21 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:05 pm
Delayedoffsides wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:35 pm


Why not? Nobody was saying before the Roseau game that their goalie was “shakey”. It always amazes me the excuses people come up with when a so called favorite gets beat by a team nobody thought had a chance to win. Give ER credit they beat Roseau with a total team effort. If ER beats Moorhead on Wednesday night (which can happen very easily) I look forward to more excuses from 218. Seems like that’s happening very regularly these days!
Roseau has had a tendency to let in some soft goals over the season. So not a new development. And goalies are just like everyone else, they have off nights, bad games, feel the play off pressure. In an upset, something usually goes right for the underdog, wrong for the favorite, or a combination. If everything went the way it was supposed to it wouldn’t be an upset. It could be any number of factors. One team is off, the other is on, puck luck, a goalie stands on his head, the favorite looking ahead, injuries, etc.

It is just analysis of one aspect of the game, nothing more. Didn’t care who won, so no need to be so sensitive or make conjectures.
Roseau's starting goalie did not play against Elk River, is that right?
I have no idea. I have no horse in this race. I just don’t like blaming one aspect of a team when a team loses (not saying you are). The earlier comment of a “shakey” goalie (not by you) bothers me. Looking at their roster the goalie they played did not play the most minutes for their season. Also saw they had 3 players who had a total of 196 points that only had 1 assist by each, for a total of 3 points. I’d say that had as much if not more to do with the loss than how the goalie played. The teams big time offensive players had an off game. Maybe just maybe that had to do with how ER played. I don’t see many giving ER any credit for the win and how they played a great team game. That’s all I’m saying. I’m just giving credit where credit is due.

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by blueline_6 » Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:54 pm

Delayedoffsides wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:24 pm
elliott70 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:26 pm
Goose21 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:05 pm


Roseau has had a tendency to let in some soft goals over the season. So not a new development. And goalies are just like everyone else, they have off nights, bad games, feel the play off pressure. In an upset, something usually goes right for the underdog, wrong for the favorite, or a combination. If everything went the way it was supposed to it wouldn’t be an upset. It could be any number of factors. One team is off, the other is on, puck luck, a goalie stands on his head, the favorite looking ahead, injuries, etc.

It is just analysis of one aspect of the game, nothing more. Didn’t care who won, so no need to be so sensitive or make conjectures.
Roseau's starting goalie did not play against Elk River, is that right?
I have no idea. I have no horse in this race. I just don’t like blaming one aspect of a team when a team loses (not saying you are). The earlier comment of a “shakey” goalie (not by you) bothers me. Looking at their roster the goalie they played did not play the most minutes for their season. Also saw they had 3 players who had a total of 196 points that only had 1 assist by each, for a total of 3 points. I’d say that had as much if not more to do with the loss than how the goalie played. The teams big time offensive players had an off game. Maybe just maybe that had to do with how ER played. I don’t see many giving ER any credit for the win and how they played a great team game. That’s all I’m saying. I’m just giving credit where credit is due.
Also worth pointing out the Elks were missing a top 4 D that was serving a game for a fighting penalty against Bemidji. Then they lost another top 4 D during the second period in Roseau when his leg was broken. They still managed to get the win despite missing those two players. Yea, I think the Elks deserve some credit.

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by elliott70 » Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:31 pm

No, not arguing about Elks deserving it at all.
I had just heard that the regular goalie did not play and trying to confirm it and wondering why?

You win or lose with the players you have- it usually hurts a team sometime during the year.

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by Green and White Fan » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:45 am

So no possibility that a good goalie stole a game? You have one goalie solid as a rock and one that lets in some soft ones and that can't effect the outcome of the game? Were you at the game and saw how it played out?
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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by bardown27 » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:55 am

Can anyone shed light on WHY Christianson didn't play...?

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by thefatcat » Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:08 am

Stockman could absolutely steal this one for Elk River, he's very good. Rumor has it he is hanging it up after this season to concentrate on baseball as he is a stud pitching prospect with multiple D1 offers already.

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by MWS coach » Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:47 am

thefatcat wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:08 am
Stockman could absolutely steal this one for Elk River, he's very good. Rumor has it he is hanging it up after this season to concentrate on baseball as he is a stud pitching prospect with multiple D1 offers already.
Not sure where you get your information, but Division 1 coaches cannot contact athletes before September 1 of their junior year, he is a sophmore. Yes he is a stud baseball player and will likely play D1 Baseball, but can't already have multiple offers and isn't hanging it up after this season.

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by bardown27 » Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:53 am

MWS coach wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:47 am
thefatcat wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:08 am
Stockman could absolutely steal this one for Elk River, he's very good. Rumor has it he is hanging it up after this season to concentrate on baseball as he is a stud pitching prospect with multiple D1 offers already.
Not sure where you get your information, but Division 1 coaches cannot contact athletes before September 1 of their junior year, he is a sophmore. Yes he is a stud baseball player and will likely play D1 Baseball, but can't already have multiple offers and isn't hanging it up after this season.
He can, because the rules you stated are for hockey, not baseball.

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by MWS coach » Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:57 am

bardown27 wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:53 am
MWS coach wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:47 am
thefatcat wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:08 am
Stockman could absolutely steal this one for Elk River, he's very good. Rumor has it he is hanging it up after this season to concentrate on baseball as he is a stud pitching prospect with multiple D1 offers already.
Not sure where you get your information, but Division 1 coaches cannot contact athletes before September 1 of their junior year, he is a sophmore. Yes he is a stud baseball player and will likely play D1 Baseball, but can't already have multiple offers and isn't hanging it up after this season.
He can, because the rules you stated are for hockey, not baseball.
According to the interweb:
When can college baseball coaches contact recruits?
One of the most frequent questions we get is, “When can college baseball coaches talk to me?” The answer is that it depends on the division level. Division 1 coaches cannot contact athletes before September 1 of their junior year. Phone calls, texts and emails from Division 2 coaches can begin June 15 after the athlete’s sophomore year. There are no restrictions regarding phone calls from coaches at the Division 3, NAIA and NJCAA levels, but typically they wait until an athlete’s junior year. Learn more about AAU baseball and college baseball recruiting.

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by bardown27 » Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:06 pm

MWS coach wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:57 am
bardown27 wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:53 am
MWS coach wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:47 am

Not sure where you get your information, but Division 1 coaches cannot contact athletes before September 1 of their junior year, he is a sophmore. Yes he is a stud baseball player and will likely play D1 Baseball, but can't already have multiple offers and isn't hanging it up after this season.
He can, because the rules you stated are for hockey, not baseball.
According to the interweb:
When can college baseball coaches contact recruits?
One of the most frequent questions we get is, “When can college baseball coaches talk to me?” The answer is that it depends on the division level. Division 1 coaches cannot contact athletes before September 1 of their junior year. Phone calls, texts and emails from Division 2 coaches can begin June 15 after the athlete’s sophomore year. There are no restrictions regarding phone calls from coaches at the Division 3, NAIA and NJCAA levels, but typically they wait until an athlete’s junior year. Learn more about AAU baseball and college baseball recruiting.
Keep reading that same article....

"While the NCAA baseball recruiting rules and calendar dictate when and how athletes can be contacted by college coaches, recruits still get offers as underclassmen. In a recent NCAA study, 46% of DI prospects reported having their first recruiting contact with a DI coach before their junior year. If the NCAA recruiting rules prohibit a college coach from contacting a recruit before their junior year, how can coaches extend an offer before then? In these cases, a college coach will most likely have worked with a recruit’s travel or high school coach. Because athletes can contact a college coach any time, the athlete’s current coach will set up a time for the athlete to call the college coach."

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by MWS coach » Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:24 pm

bardown27 wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:06 pm
MWS coach wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:57 am
bardown27 wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:53 am


He can, because the rules you stated are for hockey, not baseball.
According to the interweb:
When can college baseball coaches contact recruits?
One of the most frequent questions we get is, “When can college baseball coaches talk to me?” The answer is that it depends on the division level. Division 1 coaches cannot contact athletes before September 1 of their junior year. Phone calls, texts and emails from Division 2 coaches can begin June 15 after the athlete’s sophomore year. There are no restrictions regarding phone calls from coaches at the Division 3, NAIA and NJCAA levels, but typically they wait until an athlete’s junior year. Learn more about AAU baseball and college baseball recruiting.
Keep reading that same article....

"While the NCAA baseball recruiting rules and calendar dictate when and how athletes can be contacted by college coaches, recruits still get offers as underclassmen. In a recent NCAA study, 46% of DI prospects reported having their first recruiting contact with a DI coach before their junior year. If the NCAA recruiting rules prohibit a college coach from contacting a recruit before their junior year, how can coaches extend an offer before then? In these cases, a college coach will most likely have worked with a recruit’s travel or high school coach. Because athletes can contact a college coach any time, the athlete’s current coach will set up a time for the athlete to call the college coach."
Shows I know nothing about baseball.... :D

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by Green and White Fan » Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:20 pm

Total speculation on my part, but both Roseau goalies have played as of late and the coaching staff must have went with a gut feeling on who they felt gave Roseau the best chance to win. Both have had moments this year of good and not good. I think they hoped to catch lightning in a bottle and go with the gut since neither lately really stepped up to be that guy. Again, just speculation on my part.
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Post by alcloseshaver » Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:36 pm

Not much of a boat race after 1 period.

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by BlueLineSpecial » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:12 pm

Sheesh, 5-4 Moorhead with a minute left in the 2nd. I can't tell if this is good offense or bad goaltending
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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by alcloseshaver » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:24 pm

Not great goaltending but Elks are blowing in when they get the puck. Easily could be tied after 2.

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by East Side Pioneer Guy » Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:56 pm

Oof. Four goals is a lot to give up in a section final.
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Post by CitiesSpudsGuy » Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:02 pm

East Side Pioneer Guy wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:56 pm
Oof. Four goals is a lot to give up in a section final.
Eight goals is twice as bad. :lol:

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Re: Who wins? Elk River/Zimmerman vs Moorhead - Section 8AA Championship

Post by northwoods oldtimer » Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:05 pm

East Side Pioneer Guy wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:56 pm
Oof. Four goals is a lot to give up in a section final.
May the chirping continue in St. Paul. Looks like the Spuds unceremoniously crashed your all metro state event :P

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