Hockey Camp vs AAA summer team

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letsbehonest
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Hockey Camp vs AAA summer team

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So what is better for little johnny Hockey Camp or Summer AAA team?
muckandgrind
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Re: Hockey Camp vs AAA summer team

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letsbehonest wrote:So what is better for little johnny Hockey Camp or Summer AAA team?
Depends.
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Re: Hockey Camp vs AAA summer team

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letsbehonest wrote:So what is better for little johnny Hockey Camp or Summer AAA team?
Camps - if you don't want to travel.
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Re: Hockey Camp vs AAA summer team

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letsbehonest wrote:So what is better for little johnny Hockey Camp or Summer AAA team?
Playing other sports...
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Re: Hockey Camp vs AAA summer team

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mngopherfan wrote:
letsbehonest wrote:So what is better for little johnny Hockey Camp or Summer AAA team?
Playing other sports...
Asking little johnny what he wants to do after providing him with some guidance as to what to expect from all options. Then if it doesn't interfere with the family do what he wants.
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Post by InigoMontoya »

letsbehonest wrote:
So what is better for little johnny Hockey Camp or Summer AAA team?


Playing other sports...
Growing 4 - 6 inches...
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Post by DMan-dad »

Depends on whether Johnny needs to work on skills (drills) or decisions (games).
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Re: Hockey Camp vs AAA summer team

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mngopherfan wrote:
letsbehonest wrote:So what is better for little johnny Hockey Camp or Summer AAA team?
Playing other sports...
What if little Johnny dioesn't want to play other sports?
drop the puck
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Re: Hockey Camp vs AAA summer team

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muckandgrind wrote:
mngopherfan wrote:
letsbehonest wrote:So what is better for little johnny Hockey Camp or Summer AAA team?
Playing other sports...
What if little Johnny dioesn't want to play other sports?
Then he probably is not a good enough athlete and will likely sit on the bench for his HS hockey team if not cut from the team ... forget the D1 scholarship - that is not in the cards.
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Post by getoveryourbadself »

DMan-dad wrote:Depends on whether Johnny needs to work on skills (drills) or decisions (games).
Agreed....a few tournaments over the summer aren't going to help if the fundamentals aren't solid
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Re: Hockey Camp vs AAA summer team

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letsbehonest wrote:So what is better for little johnny Hockey Camp or Summer AAA team?
He'll need to do both.
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HockeyDad41 wrote:
letsbehonest wrote:So what is better for little johnny Hockey Camp or Summer AAA team?
He'll need to do both.
Come back when little Johnny is 14 and tell us if he still has the passion for hockey and the fire to play on.
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Re: Hockey Camp vs AAA summer team

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drop the puck wrote:
HockeyDad41 wrote:
letsbehonest wrote:So what is better for little johnny Hockey Camp or Summer AAA team?
He'll need to do both.
Come back when little Johnny is 14 and tell us if he still has the passion for hockey and the fire to play on.
You really need to start specializing around age 6 if you want to have a chance in this sport. You should be able to squeeze 3 or more camps in with AAA every summer.
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Re: Hockey Camp vs AAA summer team

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You really need to start specializing around age 6 if you want to have a chance in this sport. You should be able to squeeze 3 or more camps in with AAA every summer.[/quote]


Here is some information from USA Hockey and the ADM...

We’ve also been discussing a hockey culture that has evolved into encouraging too many games in relation to practice opportunities; pushing early specialization in one sport; an over-emphasis on ‘travel hockey’ at a young age; and too much importance placed on the scoreboard and teams’ won-loss records.

Not only do these trends actually hinder long-term athlete development, but they are in no small part responsible for driving families out of the game due to increased cost and time commitment associated with an excessive amount of games and travel.

Also, encourage your association and coaches to instill a philosophy of skating and skill development first and foremost for all the players in your program. Stress the importance of quality practices, equal ice time during games and virtual disregard for the scoreboard. (Too many things detrimental to young players development creep into the equation when a team’s success is gauged primarily on their won-loss record.)

Third, encourage young kids to play at least two other sports or athletic activities in addition to hockey, and set up a structure and season length that allows them to do so. They will benefit in many ways both on and off the ice from multi-sport participation.

http://www.usahockeymagazine.com/articl ... ack-player

-Coach
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MN_Hcky_Coach wrote:You really need to start specializing around age 6 if you want to have a chance in this sport. You should be able to squeeze 3 or more camps in with AAA every summer.

Here is some information from USA Hockey and the ADM...

We’ve also been discussing a hockey culture that has evolved into encouraging too many games in relation to practice opportunities; pushing early specialization in one sport; an over-emphasis on ‘travel hockey’ at a young age; and too much importance placed on the scoreboard and teams’ won-loss records.

Not only do these trends actually hinder long-term athlete development, but they are in no small part responsible for driving families out of the game due to increased cost and time commitment associated with an excessive amount of games and travel.

Also, encourage your association and coaches to instill a philosophy of skating and skill development first and foremost for all the players in your program. Stress the importance of quality practices, equal ice time during games and virtual disregard for the scoreboard. (Too many things detrimental to young players development creep into the equation when a team’s success is gauged primarily on their won-loss record.)

Third, encourage young kids to play at least two other sports or athletic activities in addition to hockey, and set up a structure and season length that allows them to do so. They will benefit in many ways both on and off the ice from multi-sport participation.

http://www.usahockeymagazine.com/articl ... ack-player

-Coach
Right. What does USA Hockey and the ADM know about anything.

There is nothing wrong with encouraging your 6 year old to play hockey year round.
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Post by observer »

Coach can say whatever he wants but it won't change anything. It's like when families complained about youth sports participation on Sunday. Nice story, and they can stop doing youth sports on Sunday if they want, but, guess what?, several families will not. So, the kids that work on Sunday pass the kids developmentally that didn't. How'd that work out for the ones that wanted Sunday off. Association cuts number of hours, number of games, length of season and guess what? Bunches roll over to MM to keep their kids ahead of the competition. Keep dreaming Coach, nothing's changing. Figure skaters, gymnasts, and I hear piano players all practice 20+ hours a week. We're going to develop top hockey players with 6 hours a week? Not.
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Post by BadgerBob82 »

I knew HockeyDad41 was just a troll.
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Post by HockeyDad41 »

Right on, say what you want but the kids that skate year round are better than those that don't.
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Post by BadgerBob82 »

observer is correct on the Sunday activities having changed. Same with Wednesday night. Also, the crazier the idea and the more expensive the cost, the better chance of suckering people. Spring, Summer, Fall "AAA" hockey is a money grab fueled by the fear somebody's kid is passing by their kid. While it's roots were pure, i.e. extending hockey fun deeper into the spring, it has turned into a money machine with each program touting a better mouse trap. There are athletes and there are kids that play sports. Not always the same thing.
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Post by BadgerBob82 »

You were serious? And serious about the 6 year old needing to specialize? I really thought you were kidding.

If your 2000 kid is your oldest, you will see what happens. There is no doubt some of the best youth hockey players in MN and the entire hockey playing world skate/train year round. Big difference connecting the dots that IF Jr. skates year round, he will be a better hockey player than if he put the skates away for 6 months. Others have told you about the sprint vs. marathon.

You will get it later in life. But, from the sounds of you, the blame will be placed on coaching, a particular program, or some alignment of the stars going wrong. You are persistently entertaining though.
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Post by HockeyDad41 »

BadgerBob82 wrote:You were serious? And serious about the 6 year old needing to specialize? I really thought you were kidding.

If your 2000 kid is your oldest, you will see what happens. There is no doubt some of the best youth hockey players in MN and the entire hockey playing world skate/train year round. Big difference connecting the dots that IF Jr. skates year round, he will be a better hockey player than if he put the skates away for 6 months. Others have told you about the sprint vs. marathon.

You will get it later in life. But, from the sounds of you, the blame will be placed on coaching, a particular program, or some alignment of the stars going wrong. You are persistently entertaining though.
You have to think about it the correct way.

Hockey is more like a marathon that you have to sprint the entire way to win.
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Post by MN_Hcky_Coach »

Shouldn't 6 year olds be specializing in learning to read, or write or do their own taxes??
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Post by StayAtHomeD »

HockeyDad41 wrote:Right on, say what you want but the kids that skate year round are better than those that don't.
:shock: Wow, I thought you were joking the first time, I kind of chuckled.

A 6 year old play hockey year around? We are talking about a kid who goes to bed at night with a stuffed animal!
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Post by InigoMontoya »

HockeyDad41 & MN_Hcky_Coach are Jeckyll & Hyde skating little circles between the blue lines within the boards of schizophrenia, each playing suck hole in a 1-on-1 game where the puck is in the corner.
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Post by HockeyDad41 »

InigoMontoya wrote:HockeyDad41 & MN_Hcky_Coach are Jeckyll & Hyde skating little circles between the blue lines within the boards of schizophrenia, each playing suck hole in a 1-on-1 game where the puck is in the corner.
I don't understand.
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