Vanek's AAA 26'ers Bring In Top Talent For The Ind. Classic
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Vanek's AAA 26'ers Bring In Top Talent For The Ind. Classic
Thomas Vanek's ITR 26'ers Teams have added some of the top players in the region. In the very competitive Minnesota world of Hockey Schools and AAA teams. The 26'ers program are looking to sweep the 93', 94' and 95' invite levels of this weekends Ind. Classic held in the metro. At the 93' level they have brought in three top Chicago Mission players off the three time National Championship team. Also have added top AAA National players from TI & Russel Stovers, as well as the top 93' metro kids.
At the 94' level high profile player AJ Michaelson and a few SSM players along with a host of top metro talent carries the 94' team.
And at the 95' level, half the team consist of current Shattuck players, Former Mn. Blades and Wi. Fire's top players. The team also feature's high profile players like the Wizard Taylor Cammarata and twice featured on ESPN the Magazine Nate The Kid Mackinnon from Cole Harbor NS. Canada.
It should be a interesting weekend, it all starts Thursday evening at the Blaine Super Rink.
At the 94' level high profile player AJ Michaelson and a few SSM players along with a host of top metro talent carries the 94' team.
And at the 95' level, half the team consist of current Shattuck players, Former Mn. Blades and Wi. Fire's top players. The team also feature's high profile players like the Wizard Taylor Cammarata and twice featured on ESPN the Magazine Nate The Kid Mackinnon from Cole Harbor NS. Canada.
It should be a interesting weekend, it all starts Thursday evening at the Blaine Super Rink.
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How do you know this? I'm just curious. Lots of AAA teams are put together for the purpose of a single tournament that has nothing to do with the regular player development teams and has nothign to do with their costs. So long as the regular players are getting what they paid for up front i don;t see a problem with creating tournament teams outside of that. It happens everywhere all the time and is usually a totally separate cost and set up. I think it's great when kids from other places get to play with different players and different coaches, who cares what they call it.Night Train wrote:Not much if they're adding all these zero payers.
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So how exactly does that model work? Come spend a couple grand bringing your kids in for a little ice time and a ton of plyometrics during the week, then on the weekend come watch a bunch of kids from out of state. "You too could skate like that, if only you'd have gone to their development program instead of coming here!" Nice model.thunderwolf wrote:This model sounds similar to the Lemieux Academy model run out of Denver. The group offers skills camps including an elite/AAA camp and a few tournament teams used as incentives or to increase visibility to the program. Players probably pay for any tournaments they attend.
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Is it possible that the rostered 26ers (from the website) are playing in the open tournaments and the team playing this w-end is their invite team? If so, then I don't see any problem.InigoMontoya wrote:So how exactly does that model work? Come spend a couple grand bringing your kids in for a little ice time and a ton of plyometrics during the week, then on the weekend come watch a bunch of kids from out of state. "You too could skate like that, if only you'd have gone to their development program instead of coming here!" Nice model.thunderwolf wrote:This model sounds similar to the Lemieux Academy model run out of Denver. The group offers skills camps including an elite/AAA camp and a few tournament teams used as incentives or to increase visibility to the program. Players probably pay for any tournaments they attend.
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It's an invite team it just isn't their invite team. Nobody said it's a problem, except for the regular paying members of the club, just a dumb approach.
4-5 years ago someone could start a new AAA organization, 91-95, and find enough "free agent" players to start a decent team. 4-5 years of refinement and they could compete. There were only 5-6 teams per level in 2005. With 20 some AAA teams at a level today it's really hard to start a team and fill it out with players that aren't the 300th best in the metro.
So, ITR is clearly having trouble with talent and results so they'll try something else to get attention for themselves.
I love IM's take. Had me laughing pretty good.
4-5 years ago someone could start a new AAA organization, 91-95, and find enough "free agent" players to start a decent team. 4-5 years of refinement and they could compete. There were only 5-6 teams per level in 2005. With 20 some AAA teams at a level today it's really hard to start a team and fill it out with players that aren't the 300th best in the metro.
So, ITR is clearly having trouble with talent and results so they'll try something else to get attention for themselves.
I love IM's take. Had me laughing pretty good.
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Do we have anyone around here who is a "paying" member of ITR? If so, I'm curious to know what you were told at the outset. Were you guaranteed a certain number of tournaments? If so, were you told which tournaments you would be playing in?
Before we start spouting off about what their model is and is not, it sure would be nice if we could hear from someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
*EDIT* After spending a little time looking over the 26er's website, it appears that they offer different tournament "packages", allowing the parents/players to choose which and how many tournaments they want to play in, and if they want to just play in tournaments, etc. That probably goes a long way to explain why the roster for this tournament may look different than the roster they have on the website.
Before we start spouting off about what their model is and is not, it sure would be nice if we could hear from someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
*EDIT* After spending a little time looking over the 26er's website, it appears that they offer different tournament "packages", allowing the parents/players to choose which and how many tournaments they want to play in, and if they want to just play in tournaments, etc. That probably goes a long way to explain why the roster for this tournament may look different than the roster they have on the website.
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You did. JC Slammers spouting off about their model.
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Vanek's AAA 26'ers Bring In Top Talent For The Ind. Classic
I just thought it would be nice to see some different player's from AAA teams in the region. Many of the teams and player's we talk about on the blog's, will be playing here this weekend. I think it would be nice to get out of the (BOX) in Minnesota and compare some other talent. I have know idea who is paying for who or the back scratching going on with Vanek's program. I just want to see some good hockey.
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Vanek's AAA 26'ers Bring In Top Talent For The Ind. Classic
The Lemieux Academy was run out of Phoenix by Claude Lemieux, but I believe disbanded over a year after Claude's son completed his PeeWee U12 AAA season as part of the team. The camps in the Spring of 2009 in Denver were canceled.InigoMontoya wrote:So how exactly does that model work? Come spend a couple grand bringing your kids in for a little ice time and a ton of plyometrics during the week, then on the weekend come watch a bunch of kids from out of state. "You too could skate like that, if only you'd have gone to their development program instead of coming here!" Nice model.thunderwolf wrote:This model sounds similar to the Lemieux Academy model run out of Denver. The group offers skills camps including an elite/AAA camp and a few tournament teams used as incentives or to increase visibility to the program. Players probably pay for any tournaments they attend.
The model for some of these programs is a little different than most. Some programs do not propose to be developmental programs for skills, but rather for mental development. This means like minded players with a strong skill base playing at high level against other highly skilled teams.
The premise is playing the game at higher level than one can possibly experience in a winter season where the talent distribution maybe more diverse. No local players are left behind for tournaments as there are no local players. All players come from out of state. For these progams, skill development is still done at home in a local program. Not sure if this will work long term, but certainly a different approach.
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