right ... kind of my argument. (In a much more rudimentary fashion )old goalie85 wrote:My kids would eat ice cream for dinner if I let them. COME ON!!!!
How much is too much?
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In my experience and opinion, the best hockey players anywhere under 10u level are the best SKATERS. We had our kids on the (mostly free) ice constantly from an early age. As they got older I drove and wrote checks in equal amount to the pucks they shot against my garage doors. (Well, I guess replacing those was an unanticipated expense. Live and learn...
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Completely missed the point.old goalie85 wrote:My kids would eat ice cream for dinner if I let them. COME ON!!!!
It's not about letting them do whatever they want.
It's about asking them what their opinions/thoughts are.
Parents like these clowns do neither, as it's all about them, something they can brag about at the cocktail party that week...........about a seven year old.
ah yes, that's the less rudimentary way to say it.puckbreath wrote:Completely missed the point.old goalie85 wrote:My kids would eat ice cream for dinner if I let them. COME ON!!!!
It's not about letting them do whatever they want.
It's about asking them what their opinions/thoughts are.
Parents like these clowns do neither, as it's all about them, something they can brag about at the cocktail party that week...........about a seven year old.
Well stated.
Sorry, fresh out, Don't Really Give Any.
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Thing is, the article almost goes out of its way to say that these parents aren't the types who are going to cocktail parties. The byline mentions a "modest" house and an "aging Ford Taurus" out front, and it talks about the financial decisions they're trying to make...puckbreath wrote:Parents like these clowns do neither, as it's all about them, something they can brag about at the cocktail party that week...........about a seven year old.
...and in a way, that almost might be more worrisome. Is this really what they think they need to do to keep up?
@hockeytweet wrote:Bingo!
Why do you think Bernie offers an Adult XXL Machine jacket? It's not for the 01-05 skater...
(it's for the moms)
Hilarious...as a coach I'm often amused with the clearly out of shape parents and some other coaches who love to scream at the kids to go harder. Half these people wouldn't make it 10 minutes into a squirt practice without collapsing. I'm betting the parents in the article are not/were not world class athletes...trying to make up for something
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Cocktail party, bar-b-que, whateverkarl(east) wrote:Thing is, the article almost goes out of its way to say that these parents aren't the types who are going to cocktail parties. The byline mentions a "modest" house and an "aging Ford Taurus" out front, and it talks about the financial decisions they're trying to make...puckbreath wrote:Parents like these clowns do neither, as it's all about them, something they can brag about at the cocktail party that week...........about a seven year old.
...and in a way, that almost might be more worrisome. Is this really what they think they need to do to keep up?
Agreed with your other points.
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While I'm on record he saying I don't think the parents are correct with what they are doing I a willing to draw the line. Some here are saying they do it so they can brag, etc. I don't think so. It sounds like they sacrifice an awful lot. I doubt they even have time for a social life to take in a party.
There are so many neglected children in this country. We shouldn't lose sight of that. These aren't bad people just misguided.
There are so many neglected children in this country. We shouldn't lose sight of that. These aren't bad people just misguided.
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SCBlueLiner wrote:While I'm on record he saying I don't think the parents are correct with what they are doing I a willing to draw the line. Some here are saying they do it so they can brag, etc. I don't think so. It sounds like they sacrifice an awful lot. I doubt they even have time for a social life to take in a party.
There are so many neglected children in this country. We shouldn't lose sight of that. These aren't bad people just misguided.
I don't think they're bad people either.
Just wacko, nut jobs.
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Of course it is a not a sure thing, but this little girl will have BETTER chance to make it to the highest level in hockey.
So long her parents would not push her over the edge and allow her to fail, she will be fine.
You guys might need to eat your own words when Sara becomes the next Gigi Marvin in 15 years. But 15 years is long way to go for her and her parents ... a lot of things can change.
So long her parents would not push her over the edge and allow her to fail, she will be fine.
You guys might need to eat your own words when Sara becomes the next Gigi Marvin in 15 years. But 15 years is long way to go for her and her parents ... a lot of things can change.
A couple of things,
As mentioned, there are a lot of players and families doing as much or more as her.
As someone who has done a lot of coaching, in a few sports, I always look at the parents of young players. An overweight mom and a dad with a pocket protector and it ain't gonna happen. Ultimately, with hard work, it's 90% genetics.
As mentioned, there are a lot of players and families doing as much or more as her.
As someone who has done a lot of coaching, in a few sports, I always look at the parents of young players. An overweight mom and a dad with a pocket protector and it ain't gonna happen. Ultimately, with hard work, it's 90% genetics.
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Pocket protectors are a sign of genetic disadvantage? Are you trying to say that the child of a nerd + a BBW could never make it past Bantams?observer wrote: An overweight mom and a dad with a pocket protector and it ain't gonna happen. Ultimately, with hard work, it's 90% genetics.
I think maybe you need a refresher course on genetics. Somehow I doubt whether every dad of an NHLer is a hipster and every mom is a supermodel.
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I guess thinking locally I can digest this theory but globally not placing our Prez on a NBA team leaves me questioning its merit considering his mother...but it all is starting to make sense.observer wrote:A couple of things,
As mentioned, there are a lot of players and families doing as much or more as her.
As someone who has done a lot of coaching, in a few sports, I always look at the parents of young players. An overweight mom and a dad with a pocket protector and it ain't gonna happen. Ultimately, with hard work, it's 90% genetics.
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I know the family and...
I know the family and what the Star Tribune editors so carefully decided to leave out was that their daughter takes a lot of breaks - long breaks in the summer and winter, also plays tennis and swims, and now wants to learn golf. They also decided to pick the busiest week of the four months they had followed them - imagine that. Anything to stir up controversy.
The parents - who aren't nuts at all, very nice, laid back folks - were told the article was going to be on finances in youth sports, and were referred by a friend who works at the paper. Then it came out and it was all about "how much is too much" and over-training. Now they are getting slammed and their kid is getting made fun of.
And "the icing on the cake"? That was said in reference to their new possible home that is only a half mile from the training place their daughter goes to - which isn't even a sure thing. NOT the "Edina hockey system."
Their daughter is a good little skater. I don't know if they have pocket protectors...
The parents - who aren't nuts at all, very nice, laid back folks - were told the article was going to be on finances in youth sports, and were referred by a friend who works at the paper. Then it came out and it was all about "how much is too much" and over-training. Now they are getting slammed and their kid is getting made fun of.
And "the icing on the cake"? That was said in reference to their new possible home that is only a half mile from the training place their daughter goes to - which isn't even a sure thing. NOT the "Edina hockey system."
Their daughter is a good little skater. I don't know if they have pocket protectors...
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Re: I know the family and...
That type of "journalistic" behavior definitely sounds believable; they do that kind of crap all the time.legalbeagle05 wrote:I know the family and what the Star Tribune editors so carefully decided to leave out was that their daughter takes a lot of breaks - long breaks in the summer and winter, also plays tennis and swims, and now wants to learn golf. They also decided to pick the busiest week of the four months they had followed them - imagine that. Anything to stir up controversy.
The parents - who aren't nuts at all, very nice, laid back folks - were told the article was going to be on finances in youth sports, and were referred by a friend who works at the paper. Then it came out and it was all about "how much is too much" and over-training. Now they are getting slammed and their kid is getting made fun of.
And "the icing on the cake"? That was said in reference to their new possible home that is only a half mile from the training place their daughter goes to - which isn't even a sure thing. NOT the "Edina hockey system."
Their daughter is a good little skater. I don't know if they have pocket protectors...
Thanks for the info.