Minnesotans on Rosters of D1 Minnesota Schools

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Minnesotans on Rosters of D1 Minnesota Schools

Post by The Exiled One » Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:02 pm

Gophers: 21
Bulldogs: 19
Huskies: 11
Beavers: 9
Mavericks: 6

By comparison, Air Force has 11 Minnesotans on its roster and Nebraska-Omaha has 7.

Just wanted to throw this out for the MNHSL fans to see if anybody has an opinion on out-of-state recruiting. Obviously, UMTC and UMD are looking in-state first and are landing a bunch of their targets. SCSU grabs at least as many Minnesotans as any out-of-state school, but it's a fair amount less than half their roster. I know they've attempted to land a few Minnesota kids in the recent past who ultimately ended up elsewhere... about half of them ending up out-of-state.

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Post by greybeard58 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:41 pm

Here are the numbers for Div I Mens total Minn players 180
College Minn
Air Force 11
Ala Huntsvlle 1
Alaska Ancorage 1
Alaska Fairbanks 3
American Intl. 2
Army 2
Bemidji State 9
Bentley 1
Boston College 1
Boston University 0
Bowling Green 2
Brown 0
Canisius 3
Clarkson 1
Colgate 0
Colorado College 6
Conn. 1
Cornell U. 2
Dartmouth 5
Denver U. 1
Ferris State 0
Harvard 2
Holy Cross 2
Lake Superior St 2
Maine 3
Mass Lowell 0
Massachusetts 2
Mercyhurst 2
Merrimack 2
Miami Ohio 2
Michigan 0
Michigan State 1
Michigan Tech 4
Minnesota 21
Minnesota Duluth 19
Minnesota State 6
Nebraska Omaha 7
New Hampshire 0
Niagara 1
North Dakota 4
Northeastern 0
Northern Michigan 2
Notre Dame 3
Ohio State 6
Penn State 0
Princeton 4
Providence 0
Quinnipiac 4
R.I.T. 1
Rensselaer P.I. 3
Robert Morris U 0
Sacred Heart 1
St Cloud State 11
St Lawarence 0
Union College 1
Vermont 1
Western Michigan 1
Wisconsin 6
Yale 4

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Post by JSR » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:08 am

greybeard58 wrote:Here are the numbers for Div I Mens total Minn players 180
College Minn
Air Force 11
Ala Huntsvlle 1
Alaska Ancorage 1
Alaska Fairbanks 3
American Intl. 2
Army 2
Bemidji State 9
Bentley 1
Boston College 1
Boston University 0
Bowling Green 2
Brown n0
Canisius 3
Clarkson 1
Colgate 0
Colorado College 6
Conn. 1
Cornell U. 2
Dartmouth 5
Denver U. 1
Ferris State 0
Harvard 2
Holy Cross 2
Lake Superior St 2
Maine 3
Mass Lowell 0
Massachusetts 2
Mercyhurst 2
Merrimack 2
Miami Ohio 2
Michigan 0
Michigan State 1
Michigan Tech 4
Minnesota 21
Minnesota Duluth 19
Minnesota State 6
Nebraska Omaha 7
New Hampshire 0
Niagara 1
North Dakota 4
Northeastern 0
Northern Michigan 2
Notre Dame 3
Ohio State 6
Penn State 0
Princeton 4
Providence 0
Quinnipiac 4
R.I.T. 1
Rensselaer P.I. 3
Robert Morris U 0
Sacred Heart 1
St Cloud State 11
St Lawarence 0
Union College 1
Vermont 1
Western Michigan 1
Wisconsin 6
Yale 4

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You list Penn State as having zero players from MN but to my knowledge Eric Scheid (Blaine High School), Nate Jensen (Minnetonka High School), and Max Gardiner (made it to the state title game with Minnetonka High School right???) are all from Minnesota. Your numbers appear to be inaccurate based just on that. Where do you get your data?? Just trying to clarify, not being a jerk here.....

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Post by greybeard58 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:39 am

The Penn State roster was not complete when I first did the numbers forgot to get later now updated. BTW hot the numbers from the rosters on the college web sites.
College Minn
Air Force 11
Ala Huntsvlle 1
Alaska Ancorage 1
Alaska Fairbanks 3
American Intl. 2
Army 2
Bemidji State 9
Bentley 1
Boston College 1
Boston University 0
Bowling Green 2
Brown
Canisius 3
Clarkson 1
Colgate 0
Colorado College 6
Conn. 1
Cornell U. 2
Dartmouth 5
Denver U. 1
Ferris State 0
Harvard 2
Holy Cross 2
Lake Superior St 2
Maine 3
Mass Lowell 0
Massachusetts 2
Mercyhurst 2
Merrimack 2
Miami Ohio 2
Michigan 0
Michigan State 1
Michigan Tech 4
Minnesota 21
Minnesota Duluth 19
Minnesota State 6
Nebraska Omaha 7
New Hampshire 0
Niagara 1
North Dakota 4
Northeastern 0
Northern Michigan 2
Notre Dame 3
Ohio State 6
Penn State 3
Princeton 4
Providence 0
Quinnipiac 4
R.I.T. 1
Rensselaer P.I. 3
Robert Morris U 0
Sacred Heart 1
St Cloud State 11
St Lawarence 0
Union College 1
Vermont 1
Western Michigan 1
Wisconsin 6
Yale 4

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Post by greybeard58 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:40 am

Both Div I and Div III updated:

DIVISION I MEN DIVISION III
STATE 2013 % STATE 2013 % TOTAL
MINN. 183 16.94% MINN. 212 12.09% 395 13.94%
MICH 144 13.33% MICH 119 6.79% 263 9.28%
MASS 109 10.09% MASS 347 19.79% 456 16.10%
N.Y. 91 8.43% N.Y. 184 10.50% 275 9.71%
ILL. 56 5.19% ILL. 76 4.34% 132 4.66%
PA. 63 5.83% PA. 94 5.36% 157 5.54%
CAL. 53 4.91% CAL. 69 3.94% 122 4.31%
CT 36 3.33% CT 68 3.88% 104 3.67%
WIS. 44 4.07% WIS. 86 4.91% 130 4.59%
N.J. 37 3.43% N.J. 77 4.39% 114 4.02%
N.H. 15 1.39% N.H. 43 2.45% 58 2.05%
CO. 34 3.15% CO. 34 1.94% 68 2.40%
ALASKA 25 2.31% ALASKA 21 1.20% 46 1.62%
OHIO 27 2.50% OHIO 21 1.20% 48 1.69%
MO 25 2.31% MO 21 1.20% 46 1.62%
ME 11 1.02% ME 16 0.91% 27 0.95%
RI. 8 0.74% RI. 13 0.74% 21 0.74%
WASH 7 0.65% WASH 19 1.08% 26 0.92%
TEX 15 1.39% TEX 28 1.60% 43 1.52%
ND 9 0.83% ND 13 0.74% 22 0.78%
MD 12 1.11% MD 13 0.74% 25 0.88%
IND. 4 0.37% IND. 12 0.68% 16 0.56%
VERMONT 5 0.46% VERMONT 28 1.60% 33 1.16%
ARIZ 11 1.02% ARIZ 7 0.40% 18 0.64%
VIRGINIA 5 0.46% VIRGINIA 22 1.25% 27 0.95%
FLA. 21 1.94% FLA. 34 1.94% 55 1.94%
IOWA 4 0.37% IOWA 4 0.23% 8 0.28%
NEV. 3 0.28% NEV. 6 0.34% 9 0.32%
GA. 4 0.37% GA. 13 0.74% 17 0.60%
NC 3 0.28% NC 7 0.40% 10 0.35%
ALA. 1 0.09% ALA. 4 0.23% 5 0.18%
OR 1 0.09% OR 4 0.23% 5 0.18%
IDAHO 0 0.00% IDAHO 3 0.17% 3 0.11%
MONT 0 0.00% MONT 3 0.17% 3 0.11%
TENN. 1 0.09% TENN. 4 0.23% 5 0.18%
UTAH 1 0.09% UTAH 2 0.11% 3 0.11%
NEB 5 0.46% NEB 3 0.17% 8 0.28%
KENTUCKY 1 0.09% KENTUCKY 1 0.06% 2 0.07%
OK 3 0.28% OK 3 0.17% 6 0.21%
NEW MEX 0 0.00% NEW MEX 2 0.11% 2 0.07%
WASH D.C. 2 0.19% WASH D.C. 1 0.06% 3 0.11%
KANSAS 0 0.00% KANSAS 4 0.23% 4 0.14%
WYOMING 1 0.09% WYOMING 1 0.06% 2 0.07%
LA. 0 0.00% LA. 1 0.06% 1 0.04%
S.CAR 0 0.00% S.CAR 5 0.29% 5 0.18%
W.VA 0 0.00% W.VA 0 0.00% 0 0.00%
S.D 0 0.00% S.D 1 0.06% 1 0.04%
DE 0 0.00% DE 2 0.11% 2 0.07%
HAWAII 0 0.00% HAWAII 2 0.11% 2 0.07%
TOTALS 1080 100.00% TOTALS 1753 100.00% 2833 100.00%
ASIA 4 ASIA 4
CANADA 472 CANADA 435 CANADA 907
EUROPE 42 EUROPE 57 EUROPE 99
Total Players D1 1594 TOTAL D III 2249 3843

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Post by The Exiled One » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:24 pm

Well, it looks like nobody is bothered that the Huskies, Beavers, and Mavericks tend to look out-of-state as much as in-state. I suppose that's just as well, because it opens up a lot of opportunity for Minnesotans to experience college hockey life outside the state of hockey. At the same time, it allows for multiple, highly-competitive colleges within the state.

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Post by MNHockeyFan » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:37 pm

The Exiled One wrote:Well, it looks like nobody is bothered that the Huskies, Beavers, and Mavericks tend to look out-of-state as much as in-state. I suppose that's just as well, because it opens up a lot of opportunity for Minnesotans to experience college hockey life outside the state of hockey. At the same time, it allows for multiple, highly-competitive colleges within the state.
Not surprising, as traditionally the Gophers have tended to land the most highly touted (although not necessarily the best) guys from in-State. I think the other coaches are at a little bit of a disadvantage in this respect and realize they need to look elsewhere to supplement the Minnesota kids they do get.

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Post by JSR » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:10 pm

MNHockeyFan wrote:
The Exiled One wrote:Well, it looks like nobody is bothered that the Huskies, Beavers, and Mavericks tend to look out-of-state as much as in-state. I suppose that's just as well, because it opens up a lot of opportunity for Minnesotans to experience college hockey life outside the state of hockey. At the same time, it allows for multiple, highly-competitive colleges within the state.
Not surprising, as traditionally the Gophers have tended to land the most highly touted (although not necessarily the best) guys from in-State. I think the other coaches are at a little bit of a disadvantage in this respect and realize they need to look elsewhere to supplement the Minnesota kids they do get.
I agree with this take. While there clearly are a number of eligible in state players that does not mean those players are "impact players" for those schools. My guess is UMD, and the Gophs land most of the "impact players" for the in state schools, many of the other "impact players" from MN likely look to higher profile schools like Wisconsin and North Dakota etc... thus the Beavs and Huskies and Mavericks etc.... probably need to look outside the state to try and land players who can have that type of "impact" and allow them to compete at a high level, my guess is that if they went with solely in state players they would be often be getting the "left overs" or just "role players" with few to no impact players that would allow them to compete at a high level... hope that makes sense

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Post by The Exiled One » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:34 pm

JSR wrote:I agree with this take. While there clearly are a number of eligible in state players that does not mean those players are "impact players" for those schools. My guess is UMD, and the Gophs land most of the "impact players" for the in state schools, many of the other "impact players" from MN likely look to higher profile schools like Wisconsin and North Dakota etc... thus the Beavs and Huskies and Mavericks etc.... probably need to look outside the state to try and land players who can have that type of "impact" and allow them to compete at a high level, my guess is that if they went with solely in state players they would be often be getting the "left overs" or just "role players" with few to no impact players that would allow them to compete at a high level... hope that makes sense
Indeed. Funny thing is, the Huskies graduated (or lost) four Minnesotans from last season's Frozen Four team, three of whom were clearly "impact" players (LeBlanc, Hanowski, Jensen). This season, SCSU has a couple of impact Minnesotans who simply flew under the radar of the other Minnesota schools (Brodzinski and Prochno). The other impact players (Dowd, Morley, Faragher, Gravel) are from out-of-state. Basically, it seems like SCSU's recruiting reputation is on the rise overall, just not in the state. See the three Finns and one Finnish recruit as evidence.

Mankato, on the other hand, seems to be doing better with in-state talent. In particular, I'm thinking about Zach Stepan, Hunter Warner, and C.J. Franklin. I think that might just be the effect of Hastings recruiting what and where he knows best.

Bemidji is just Bemidji.

I think impact players will still slip to Mankato and SCSU from in-state, but probably because the player became highly desirable after the Gophers no longer had room. Mitch Slattery is probably a good example of that. Avery Peterson could have been an example, but I'm not counting any recruit of Dean Blais. UNO is NOT a place you play at, Blais is simply a coach you play FOR.

As for highly touted sophomores and freshmen, I don't think there are any that would jump at the chance to be a Husky quite yet... maybe after a Natty or two. ;)

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Post by JSR » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:09 am

The Exiled One wrote:
JSR wrote:I agree with this take. While there clearly are a number of eligible in state players that does not mean those players are "impact players" for those schools. My guess is UMD, and the Gophs land most of the "impact players" for the in state schools, many of the other "impact players" from MN likely look to higher profile schools like Wisconsin and North Dakota etc... thus the Beavs and Huskies and Mavericks etc.... probably need to look outside the state to try and land players who can have that type of "impact" and allow them to compete at a high level, my guess is that if they went with solely in state players they would be often be getting the "left overs" or just "role players" with few to no impact players that would allow them to compete at a high level... hope that makes sense
Indeed. Funny thing is, the Huskies graduated (or lost) four Minnesotans from last season's Frozen Four team, three of whom were clearly "impact" players (LeBlanc, Hanowski, Jensen). This season, SCSU has a couple of impact Minnesotans who simply flew under the radar of the other Minnesota schools (Brodzinski and Prochno). The other impact players (Dowd, Morley, Faragher, Gravel) are from out-of-state. Basically, it seems like SCSU's recruiting reputation is on the rise overall, just not in the state. See the three Finns and one Finnish recruit as evidence.

Mankato, on the other hand, seems to be doing better with in-state talent. In particular, I'm thinking about Zach Stepan, Hunter Warner, and C.J. Franklin. I think that might just be the effect of Hastings recruiting what and where he knows best.

Bemidji is just Bemidji.

I think impact players will still slip to Mankato and SCSU from in-state, but probably because the player became highly desirable after the Gophers no longer had room. Mitch Slattery is probably a good example of that. Avery Peterson could have been an example, but I'm not counting any recruit of Dean Blais. UNO is NOT a place you play at, Blais is simply a coach you play FOR.

As for highly touted sophomores and freshmen, I don't think there are any that would jump at the chance to be a Husky quite yet... maybe after a Natty or two. ;)
Winning consistantly raises your profile which raises your level of recruiting. I can see where SCSU is probably on that trend and don;t get me wrong, I am not saying "zero" impact players from in state go to those schools they probably are just at a point where they cannot get ENOUGH of them and hence have to go to out of state recruiting to suppplement.......

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Post by Sats81 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:11 pm

The Exiled One wrote:
JSR wrote:I agree with this take. While there clearly are a number of eligible in state players that does not mean those players are "impact players" for those schools. My guess is UMD, and the Gophs land most of the "impact players" for the in state schools, many of the other "impact players" from MN likely look to higher profile schools like Wisconsin and North Dakota etc... thus the Beavs and Huskies and Mavericks etc.... probably need to look outside the state to try and land players who can have that type of "impact" and allow them to compete at a high level, my guess is that if they went with solely in state players they would be often be getting the "left overs" or just "role players" with few to no impact players that would allow them to compete at a high level... hope that makes sense
Indeed. Funny thing is, the Huskies graduated (or lost) four Minnesotans from last season's Frozen Four team, three of whom were clearly "impact" players (LeBlanc, Hanowski, Jensen). This season, SCSU has a couple of impact Minnesotans who simply flew under the radar of the other Minnesota schools (Brodzinski and Prochno). The other impact players (Dowd, Morley, Faragher, Gravel) are from out-of-state. Basically, it seems like SCSU's recruiting reputation is on the rise overall, just not in the state. See the three Finns and one Finnish recruit as evidence.

Mankato, on the other hand, seems to be doing better with in-state talent. In particular, I'm thinking about Zach Stepan, Hunter Warner, and C.J. Franklin. I think that might just be the effect of Hastings recruiting what and where he knows best.

Bemidji is just Bemidji.

I think impact players will still slip to Mankato and SCSU from in-state, but probably because the player became highly desirable after the Gophers no longer had room. Mitch Slattery is probably a good example of that. Avery Peterson could have been an example, but I'm not counting any recruit of Dean Blais. UNO is NOT a place you play at, Blais is simply a coach you play FOR.

As for highly touted sophomores and freshmen, I don't think there are any that would jump at the chance to be a Husky quite yet... maybe after a Natty or two. ;)
With Stepan, I wouldn't really say Mankato and Hastings "landed him", it was more of a function of Oseicki leaving Ohio St. and him decommiting from there and wanting to go to the U and them not having any roster spots available at the time. For Warner, I don't think he will be a major "impact player" but time will certainly tell.

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